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Pf tek help please!
    #23621750 - 09/07/16 11:52 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

It is now day ten since I inoculated my first ten jars. I followed the recipe and tek to a "T". While checking my jars last night I noticed that the substrate was no longer full to the top. What could have caused this and is this why only 2/10 have signs of myc. So far. Any help is greatly appreciated. Tried searching first but couldn't find any relevant info on the substrate "shrinking" so to speak.


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Re: Pf tek help please! [Re: NwMycoHead]
    #23621762 - 09/07/16 11:55 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Looks like your dry verm layer collapsed.maybe take more care next time..


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Re: Pf tek help please! [Re: TheGODSmadeMe]
    #23621767 - 09/07/16 11:58 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks, although I don't understand how it could "collapse" so to speak. do you think they will still colonize appropriately or should I count my stars on the other 11 I knocked up from pre-sterilized substrate from a vendor? Although I see you've registered just as recently as me so maybe this is more a question for someone with more time here so to speak.


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Re: Pf tek help please! [Re: NwMycoHead]
    #23621798 - 09/07/16 12:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

You probably didnt fill jars enough and in the pc cycle the cake shrunk. Enough to allow youverm to collapse.. They may be ok but they no longer have a contamination filter..so personally id make more as to not jusy count on these


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Re: Pf tek help please! [Re: TheGODSmadeMe]
    #23621845 - 09/07/16 12:23 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

it's fine just tap your substrate down gently next time you fill your jars, remove the foil.


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Re: Pf tek help please! [Re: TheGODSmadeMe]
    #23621849 - 09/07/16 12:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Looks like your dry verm layer collapsed.maybe take more care next time..



great advice as always.:thumbdown:
not sure how PCin would make something shrink either but ...what the hell..maybe??

OP- you said follow to a T, but you used the wrong sized jars for pf.
it can still work but i found 1pint pfs always stalled or crapped out.
it also looks like you have half the jar with brf mix and half with verm?

if so you only need like 1/4inch layer of verm for your 'filter'. also
ditch the foil. jars need to exchange gases. not be covered up.

Be patient with the growth. spores can take awhile to germinate.
keep your head up!!
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Re: Pf tek help please! [Re: NwMycoHead]
    #23621870 - 09/07/16 12:32 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Pf tek help please! [Re: mushboy]
    #23621883 - 09/07/16 12:36 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Isn't that thegodsmademedoit can you have that two accounts the other account stopped posting the day this new one opened with the completely different name thegodsmademe


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    #23621885 - 09/07/16 12:37 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Pf tek help please! [Re: cronicr]
    #23621887 - 09/07/16 12:39 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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i banned both his accounts



Ahh love his sneaky undetectable new name even putting GODS in capital what a turd


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Re: Pf tek help please! [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23621932 - 09/07/16 12:58 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

The jars are 1/2 pints just the taller ones as I couldn't find the shorties. And I filled with brf mix all the way to rim then just the top 3/4" or so with dry verm. Not quite sure what happened there but will definitely tap the jar on the counter a but better next time so the brf mix settles to where it should be better. Thanks for all the feedback. Also I only have the foil on those jars because they are the pre done jars from a vendor and it didn't look like they had a dry verm layer, should I remove the foil and put micropore tape over the holes instead or leave open in the sgfc to incubate freely so to speak.


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Re: Pf tek help please! [Re: NwMycoHead]
    #23622045 - 09/07/16 01:34 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

oh i got you.
if the pre made vendor jars do not have verm layer id consider that a bad sign
of the quality of the jars. a lot of sites say 'professionally' made
jars under blah blah conditions but i find those claims to be dubious at best.

did you make the other jars?
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Re: Pf tek help please! [Re: mushboy]
    #23622185 - 09/07/16 02:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I made the other jars, and yeah. It's old school no gauge just a rocker I PC'd for 70min. And allowed to cool over night they had two layers of jar lids and a layer of foil between them and the bottom and I added the water to just the tops of the jar lids.


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Re: Pf tek help please! [Re: TheGODSmadeMe] * 1
    #23622203 - 09/07/16 02:33 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Looks like your dry verm layer collapsed.maybe take more care next time..




:justno:

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Re: Pf tek help please! [Re: NwMycoHead]
    #23622408 - 09/07/16 03:35 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I made the other jars, and yeah. It's old school no gauge just a rocker I PC'd for 70min. And allowed to cool over night they had two layers of jar lids and a layer of foil between them and the bottom and I added the water to just the tops of the jar lids.




ack.

thats alot of water. i use barely any(1.5-2inches) but most TC's(trusted cultivators) say half
way up a jar is enough water. some water might of bubbled into the jars.. maybe??

all you need is tyvek(free at post office works fine for me) and a lid with
4 drilled holes.

two layers of lids is overkill and the foil is only used to keep water droplets
off your lids. and recycled for another batch.

do 90+ mins. 70 might not be long enough if you do not know the exact psi.


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Re: Pf tek help please! [Re: mushboy]
    #23622443 - 09/07/16 03:44 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I made the other jars, and yeah. It's old school no gauge just a rocker I PC'd for 70min. And allowed to cool over night they had two layers of jar lids and a layer of foil between them and the bottom and I added the water to just the tops of the jar lids.




ack.

thats alot of water. i use barely any(1.5-2inches) but most TC's(trusted cultivators) say half
way up a jar is enough water. some water might of bubbled into the jars.. maybe??

all you need is tyvek(free at post office works fine for me) and a lid with
4 drilled holes.

two layers of lids is overkill and the foil is only used to keep water droplets
off your lids. and recycled for another batch.

do 90+ mins. 70 might not be long enough if you do not know the exact psi.



:whathesaid: water is way too high. I have my jars sat on a pizza oven tray thing with 4 small pp5 containers under that,  i fill the water in the PC till it overflows into the pp5s also holding them in the water better. Then I put my jars on top the pizza oven tray. Water never touches my jars bar of course the steam


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Re: Pf tek help please! [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23622546 - 09/07/16 04:10 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I don't believe in water.  But when I do, I drink h20. 

Here's a couple of links to discourage you from buying over-priced pre-made shit from vendors:

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Re: Pf tek help please! [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23623020 - 09/07/16 06:04 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

mushboy said:
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NwMycoHead said:
I made the other jars, and yeah. It's old school no gauge just a rocker I PC'd for 70min. And allowed to cool over night they had two layers of jar lids and a layer of foil between them and the bottom and I added the water to just the tops of the jar lids.




ack.

thats alot of water. i use barely any(1.5-2inches) but most TC's(trusted cultivators) say half
way up a jar is enough water. some water might of bubbled into the jars.. maybe??

all you need is tyvek(free at post office works fine for me) and a lid with
4 drilled holes.

two layers of lids is overkill and the foil is only used to keep water droplets
off your lids. and recycled for another batch.

do 90+ mins. 70 might not be long enough if you do not know the exact psi.



:whathesaid: water is way too high. I have my jars sat on a pizza oven tray thing with 4 small pp5 containers under that,  i fill the water in the PC till it overflows into the pp5s also holding them in the water better. Then I put my jars on top the pizza oven tray. Water never touches my jars bar of course the steam




No... I only had about an 1.5"-2" of water I put a layer of jar lids on bottom of PC then a layer of foil then another layer of jar lids. Filled water to top if those lids then placed jars in and PC'd for 70 min. And the rocker is supposed to be for 15psi. But who knows definitely going to buy a new one as soon as its feasible.


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Re: Pf tek help please! [Re: NwMycoHead]
    #23623027 - 09/07/16 06:05 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Oh I thought you ment it was just off the rim of the jar


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    #23623063 - 09/07/16 06:13 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Here's a grow kit for you:




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Re: Pf tek help please! [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23623283 - 09/07/16 07:06 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Here's a grow kit for you:






Some nice sun-dried hpoo just what I wanted haha. No I get it was a waste of money I knew that before I ordered but just wanted to have something to visually compare to. I get now I'll never order again and make my own but it's still a good reference Imo.
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Oh I thought you ment it was just off the rim of the jar



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Re: Pf tek help please! [Re: NwMycoHead]
    #23625903 - 09/08/16 01:57 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Look, RR is even taking a bite out of a nugget to show you how good it is!


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Re: Pf tek help please! [Re: Kenetic]
    #23625916 - 09/08/16 02:03 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yum:poop:


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Re: Pf tek help please! [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23625925 - 09/08/16 02:06 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

slightly off topic but when i first used hpoo i noticed how soft
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Re: Pf tek help please! [Re: mushboy]
    #23625968 - 09/08/16 02:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Well now that your hands are taken care of its time to moisturize your face  :devil:
(sorry, off topic too).

Ehem, pf tek rocks!  go team!


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Re: Pf tek help please! [Re: Kenetic]
    #23626196 - 09/08/16 03:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

^^^lmao. Was looking up using liquid cultures to speed things up on the next round, what is your guys take on that? Does it actually speed things up considerably? Is there one preferred tek over another?


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Re: Pf tek help please! [Re: NwMycoHead]
    #23627407 - 09/08/16 10:02 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Contaminated? Or myc?

If it is myc. Doesn't look anywhere near as rhizomorphic(?) As the other jars I made myself.


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    #23627413 - 09/08/16 10:05 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yep, that's myc.  You won't see rhizo until tomorrow or the next day


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Re: Pf tek help please! [Re: Kenetic]
    #23627447 - 09/08/16 10:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Sweet only day five for those and so far there beating mine as far as quantity of jars to germ. And awesome I'll keep my eye out for it, thanks for the fast reply.


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    #23631038 - 09/09/16 11:29 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

So I've convinced my wife to give me our closet to experiment with my new found hobby. I've done a ton of reading of "oh no" and "it's fine" as far as using a closet goes but either way it's what I'm working with. The room is 5'L X 6'W X 9'H there's a shelf (white one that are just skinny bars very breathable) that goes along the top about 6'-6'6" high on the back wall and left side. I also cut the door up about two inches off the floor to allow better airflow. I then completely cleaned the room, then bleached, mopped, and then Lysol'd the entire room. I then ran my hepa air filter in the room for a couple hours then began wiping or spraying down all my "mycology related items" and placing them back in the room. What would your guys thoughts be to best utilise this space to its potentially? And to keep it maintained as far as cleanliness? Just keeping it sweeper and wiped/sprayed down? Or?


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Re: Pf tek help please! [Re: NwMycoHead]
    #23631185 - 09/10/16 12:44 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Pf tek help please! [Re: amidogen]
    #23631207 - 09/10/16 01:01 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks actually been reading alot about agar today, including pastys thread. I have a sab as well and I set the pf jars I already have colonizing inside the empty sgfc. On the shelf. I was thinking of using the upper shelf on the back 6' for colonizing jars then add two more like shelves on the left wall so I can have possibly up to 6 monotubs/ sgfc. I was also reading that you should separate colonizing jars from your fruiting chambers? Is this current info and if so can I simply partition them off on that shelf?


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Re: Pf tek help please! [Re: NwMycoHead]
    #23631234 - 09/10/16 01:21 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Pf tek help please! [Re: amidogen]
    #23631261 - 09/10/16 01:49 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Awesome, thank you. Want to plant some morels outdoors but don't think that will be an issue indoors when the time comes I can just colonize the spawn for them elsewhere in the house if need be.


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Re: Pf tek help please! [Re: NwMycoHead]
    #23633583 - 09/10/16 07:16 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

So had my first definite contamination today to pink mold. 9 have myc. (3 are very strong looking the others look rather fuzzy so to speak imo. IDK). The other 11 not a single thing not sure what's going on there, it's been 13 days since the first ones were inoculated figured they would have germinated a little at least but not a speck.


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Re: Pf tek help please! [Re: NwMycoHead]
    #23687478 - 09/28/16 04:34 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

So it's been a few weeks since the Op and most of my jars are almost fully colonized but a few look to have way too much moisture in them all of a sudden but aren't fully colonized on the bottom should I birth these a little early or??



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Re: Pf tek help please! [Re: NwMycoHead]
    #23689398 - 09/29/16 06:31 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah I had a jar do that I just threw it away. Also your sig is abit wrong lol


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