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Pf tek help please!
    #23621750 - 09/07/16 11:52 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

It is now day ten since I inoculated my first ten jars. I followed the recipe and tek to a "T". While checking my jars last night I noticed that the substrate was no longer full to the top. What could have caused this and is this why only 2/10 have signs of myc. So far. Any help is greatly appreciated. Tried searching first but couldn't find any relevant info on the substrate "shrinking" so to speak.


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Re: Pf tek help please! [Re: NwMycoHead]
    #23621762 - 09/07/16 11:55 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Looks like your dry verm layer collapsed.maybe take more care next time..


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Re: Pf tek help please! [Re: TheGODSmadeMe]
    #23621767 - 09/07/16 11:58 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks, although I don't understand how it could "collapse" so to speak. do you think they will still colonize appropriately or should I count my stars on the other 11 I knocked up from pre-sterilized substrate from a vendor? Although I see you've registered just as recently as me so maybe this is more a question for someone with more time here so to speak.


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Re: Pf tek help please! [Re: NwMycoHead]
    #23621798 - 09/07/16 12:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

You probably didnt fill jars enough and in the pc cycle the cake shrunk. Enough to allow youverm to collapse.. They may be ok but they no longer have a contamination filter..so personally id make more as to not jusy count on these


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Re: Pf tek help please! [Re: TheGODSmadeMe]
    #23621845 - 09/07/16 12:23 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

it's fine just tap your substrate down gently next time you fill your jars, remove the foil.


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Re: Pf tek help please! [Re: TheGODSmadeMe]
    #23621849 - 09/07/16 12:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Looks like your dry verm layer collapsed.maybe take more care next time..



great advice as always.:thumbdown:
not sure how PCin would make something shrink either but ...what the hell..maybe??

OP- you said follow to a T, but you used the wrong sized jars for pf.
it can still work but i found 1pint pfs always stalled or crapped out.
it also looks like you have half the jar with brf mix and half with verm?

if so you only need like 1/4inch layer of verm for your 'filter'. also
ditch the foil. jars need to exchange gases. not be covered up.

Be patient with the growth. spores can take awhile to germinate.
keep your head up!!
but make a new batch using half pints. trust me.


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Re: Pf tek help please! [Re: NwMycoHead]
    #23621870 - 09/07/16 12:32 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Pf tek help please! [Re: mushboy]
    #23621883 - 09/07/16 12:36 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Isn't that thegodsmademedoit can you have that two accounts the other account stopped posting the day this new one opened with the completely different name thegodsmademe


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Re: Pf tek help please! [Re: mrmazdarx9] * 2
    #23621885 - 09/07/16 12:37 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

i banned both his accounts


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Re: Pf tek help please! [Re: cronicr]
    #23621887 - 09/07/16 12:39 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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i banned both his accounts



Ahh love his sneaky undetectable new name even putting GODS in capital what a turd


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Re: Pf tek help please! [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23621932 - 09/07/16 12:58 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

The jars are 1/2 pints just the taller ones as I couldn't find the shorties. And I filled with brf mix all the way to rim then just the top 3/4" or so with dry verm. Not quite sure what happened there but will definitely tap the jar on the counter a but better next time so the brf mix settles to where it should be better. Thanks for all the feedback. Also I only have the foil on those jars because they are the pre done jars from a vendor and it didn't look like they had a dry verm layer, should I remove the foil and put micropore tape over the holes instead or leave open in the sgfc to incubate freely so to speak.


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Re: Pf tek help please! [Re: NwMycoHead]
    #23622045 - 09/07/16 01:34 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

oh i got you.
if the pre made vendor jars do not have verm layer id consider that a bad sign
of the quality of the jars. a lot of sites say 'professionally' made
jars under blah blah conditions but i find those claims to be dubious at best.

did you make the other jars?
i forgot to ask if you had a pc...?


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Re: Pf tek help please! [Re: mushboy]
    #23622185 - 09/07/16 02:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I made the other jars, and yeah. It's old school no gauge just a rocker I PC'd for 70min. And allowed to cool over night they had two layers of jar lids and a layer of foil between them and the bottom and I added the water to just the tops of the jar lids.


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Re: Pf tek help please! [Re: TheGODSmadeMe] * 1
    #23622203 - 09/07/16 02:33 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Looks like your dry verm layer collapsed.maybe take more care next time..




:justno:

Looks like the ban on your accounts collapsed as well.

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Re: Pf tek help please! [Re: NwMycoHead]
    #23622408 - 09/07/16 03:35 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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NwMycoHead said:
I made the other jars, and yeah. It's old school no gauge just a rocker I PC'd for 70min. And allowed to cool over night they had two layers of jar lids and a layer of foil between them and the bottom and I added the water to just the tops of the jar lids.




ack.

thats alot of water. i use barely any(1.5-2inches) but most TC's(trusted cultivators) say half
way up a jar is enough water. some water might of bubbled into the jars.. maybe??

all you need is tyvek(free at post office works fine for me) and a lid with
4 drilled holes.

two layers of lids is overkill and the foil is only used to keep water droplets
off your lids. and recycled for another batch.

do 90+ mins. 70 might not be long enough if you do not know the exact psi.


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Re: Pf tek help please! [Re: mushboy]
    #23622443 - 09/07/16 03:44 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

NwMycoHead said:
I made the other jars, and yeah. It's old school no gauge just a rocker I PC'd for 70min. And allowed to cool over night they had two layers of jar lids and a layer of foil between them and the bottom and I added the water to just the tops of the jar lids.




ack.

thats alot of water. i use barely any(1.5-2inches) but most TC's(trusted cultivators) say half
way up a jar is enough water. some water might of bubbled into the jars.. maybe??

all you need is tyvek(free at post office works fine for me) and a lid with
4 drilled holes.

two layers of lids is overkill and the foil is only used to keep water droplets
off your lids. and recycled for another batch.

do 90+ mins. 70 might not be long enough if you do not know the exact psi.



:whathesaid: water is way too high. I have my jars sat on a pizza oven tray thing with 4 small pp5 containers under that,  i fill the water in the PC till it overflows into the pp5s also holding them in the water better. Then I put my jars on top the pizza oven tray. Water never touches my jars bar of course the steam


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Re: Pf tek help please! [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23622546 - 09/07/16 04:10 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I don't believe in water.  But when I do, I drink h20. 

Here's a couple of links to discourage you from buying over-priced pre-made shit from vendors:

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Re: Pf tek help please! [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23623020 - 09/07/16 06:04 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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mrmazdarx9 said:
Quote:

mushboy said:
Quote:

NwMycoHead said:
I made the other jars, and yeah. It's old school no gauge just a rocker I PC'd for 70min. And allowed to cool over night they had two layers of jar lids and a layer of foil between them and the bottom and I added the water to just the tops of the jar lids.




ack.

thats alot of water. i use barely any(1.5-2inches) but most TC's(trusted cultivators) say half
way up a jar is enough water. some water might of bubbled into the jars.. maybe??

all you need is tyvek(free at post office works fine for me) and a lid with
4 drilled holes.

two layers of lids is overkill and the foil is only used to keep water droplets
off your lids. and recycled for another batch.

do 90+ mins. 70 might not be long enough if you do not know the exact psi.



:whathesaid: water is way too high. I have my jars sat on a pizza oven tray thing with 4 small pp5 containers under that,  i fill the water in the PC till it overflows into the pp5s also holding them in the water better. Then I put my jars on top the pizza oven tray. Water never touches my jars bar of course the steam




No... I only had about an 1.5"-2" of water I put a layer of jar lids on bottom of PC then a layer of foil then another layer of jar lids. Filled water to top if those lids then placed jars in and PC'd for 70 min. And the rocker is supposed to be for 15psi. But who knows definitely going to buy a new one as soon as its feasible.


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Re: Pf tek help please! [Re: NwMycoHead]
    #23623027 - 09/07/16 06:05 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Oh I thought you ment it was just off the rim of the jar


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Re: Pf tek help please! [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23623063 - 09/07/16 06:13 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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