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Reishi on pine pellets?
    #23621695 - 09/07/16 11:34 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I plan to do a big Red Reishi grow, 10x 20qt minimonos a la Pastywhyte.

Unfortunately I can't get hardwood of any sort locally, fuel pellets or otherwise.
I can however get pine fuel pellets and shavings very very cheap.
Is it possible to fruit Red Reishi on pine?

I can get straw bales and fir pellets instead if needed but I already have 2 big bags of pine fuel pellets.

What about coir? Has anyone managed to fruit Reishi on CVG?

Supposedly my Reishi culture is G. lucidum but it may be another Ganoderma species.

Edit: It turns out one of the bags is fir, so I have that as an option without having to buy more pellets.

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Fir:
1:2:3:4:5:

Pine:
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Quote:

Fir:
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Pine:
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CONCLUSION:
Pine and fir will support a decent reishi pinset.
Mold lowered my yields by a huge amount, but I am confident a better grower than I could use conifer substrates to grow reishi without an issue.


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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: Greg]
    #23621819 - 09/07/16 12:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

In my experience using pine has work for oysters, though not ideal, and Maitake actually prefer pine to hardwood, but I have yet to experiment with reishi on pine. Reishi is a very strong colonizer so I would assume you could cultivate on pine- though if you can get straw why not do both and run a comparison?


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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: TravelAgency]
    #23621839 - 09/07/16 12:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I was going to suggest 50/50 paper and pine, worked for King oyster.
TravelAgency has already proven 100% pine works ok.

50/50 pine and straw should work well.


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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: Ferather]
    #23622441 - 09/07/16 03:43 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I'll do some test runs with pine, straw and a combination then, maybe also CVG. Thanks guys!

Edit: just A2Gd 20 jars of rye. Pics of one of the source plates and the jars after A2G and labeling:


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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: Greg]
    #23622857 - 09/07/16 05:34 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I honestly wouldn't bother with CVG- that is really only good for secondary decomposes like Cubs and agaricus.


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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: TravelAgency]
    #23622938 - 09/07/16 05:45 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Noted. I'll skip the coir then.


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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: Greg]
    #23629822 - 09/09/16 05:09 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Might as well turn this in to a grow log!

The Reishi is already jumping off the agar on to the grains. Such a fast colonizer.



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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: Greg]
    #23632098 - 09/10/16 11:40 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: TravelAgency]
    #23639000 - 09/12/16 04:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Update:
I think this is the same jar as the last photo.
It's growing so quickly!



All 20 jars look clean so far! Super excited.
Even the jar I accidentally put two wedges in and the one I had to violently shake to dislodge the wedge from the lid seem to be progressing nicely.


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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: Greg]
    #23639083 - 09/12/16 04:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Boom!

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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: TravelAgency]
    #23650228 - 09/16/16 11:22 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Update:

Going to shake the shit out of these jars today.
Shook one two days ago as a test and it has recovered well.


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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: Greg]
    #23650261 - 09/16/16 11:36 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Lookin good!


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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: TravelAgency]
    #23652660 - 09/17/16 10:11 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

These jars recovered much faster than the first one I shook.


Already showing new growth.
I think the difference is because my grow room is sitting at around 70F now instead of 50-60 like it was before.


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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: Greg]
    #23652832 - 09/17/16 11:23 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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    #23654073 - 09/17/16 08:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23658621 - 09/19/16 12:23 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

So close!

All of them look like this now:

With the exception of the one I shook early, which is lagging behind:


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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: Greg]
    #23661027 - 09/20/16 08:56 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Well, one of the jars exploded with green mold all over... Hopefully it's the only one.

I checked all the rest and they seem fine.
A spore probably got in when I A2Gd.


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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: Greg]
    #23671119 - 09/23/16 01:34 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Going to spawn all of them to the various subs today.
Some look a little sketchy/wispy and some have made a drop or two of metabolites.
Still just the one that turned green. No outward signs of mold otherwise.

I'm just going to pair the sketchy ones together so if they turn in to little Amityville horrors I don't lose all my tubs.


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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: Greg]
    #23673906 - 09/24/16 12:52 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Spawned to all ten tubs. One of the pine tubs only got 1 quart of spawn because of that jar going green.

I decided to only do pine and fir because straw is a pain in the ass to prep.
I ended up making way too much sawdust :shrug:
It ended up a bit dry so I poured more hot water on it after pasteurizing.
Seems to have fixed the problem, but it made the sawdust expand more so now I have like 6 extra quarts.

Added about 4 percent gypsum when I prepped it. The gypsum is from recycled sheetrock so some bits of cardboard are present.

Ratio is 2:3 spawn:sub.



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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: Greg]
    #23673918 - 09/24/16 12:56 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Awesome, I grow mushrooms in a grow tent too:thumbup:


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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: Marty Mycfly]
    #23675489 - 09/24/16 11:10 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: TravelAgency]
    #23677029 - 09/25/16 03:04 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Looking sexy so far, nothing nasty yet.
One tub is lagging behind a bit.

The tub that only got one quart of reishi looks great but a bit sparser by comparison.

Here are a few:


Edit: I'd also like to say that the pine tubs looks slightly more filled out but I think that's because the pine sawdust turned out wetter after bucket-teking it.


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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: Greg]
    #23679514 - 09/26/16 11:08 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: TravelAgency]
    #23679772 - 09/26/16 12:43 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Wow this stuff is fast.
Probably just as fast as oysters to be honest.

All of the tubs now look like this except for the one that got 1:3 spawn:sub:

1:3 tub:

This one is almost ready to fruit:


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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: Greg]
    #23680276 - 09/26/16 03:37 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

:dancer: reishi are fun to watch!


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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: Quadman]
    #23682605 - 09/27/16 09:21 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: filthyknees]
    #23682617 - 09/27/16 09:27 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

They have a very faint pleasant smell, like pinesol and mushrooms.



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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: Greg]
    #23682639 - 09/27/16 09:37 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Thats aggressive on pine, great test, well done!

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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: Ferather]
    #23683363 - 09/27/16 02:17 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah glad to see this perform well on pine, that's the one pellet I can get cheap all day.


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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: Marty Mycfly]
    #23683778 - 09/27/16 04:48 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Just to clarify, one of those tubs is fir, the other is pine. Very little difference in growth at this point.


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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: Greg]
    #23684796 - 09/27/16 10:29 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Greg said:
Just to clarify, one of those tubs is fir, the other is pine. Very little difference in growth at this point.




Interesting. I'll be running side by side oak and pine here shortly. Will try tubs soon too.


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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: Marty Mycfly]
    #23684828 - 09/27/16 10:37 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Looking great. Can't wait to see your results!  :popcorn:


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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: Madcap]
    #23685001 - 09/27/16 11:48 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Just noticed something...

I peeled back the liner on a few of the subs out of curiosity:
They're only colonized 1/2 to 3/4 of the way down, I think i didn't mix the spawn in deep enough.
I really should have mixed the sub/spawn outside of the tubs then dumped it in. :facepalm:
It should be fine though, considering how fast they're colonizing.

Some tubs have developed a teeny tiny bit of metabolites on the surface. Like a pinhead sized drop here or there.


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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: Greg]
    #23685013 - 09/27/16 11:53 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Example:

Ignore the dark chunk and white chunk in the uncolonized area, that's a bit of cardboard and a chunk of gypsum.


It looks like I missed the middle of the edges on most of the tubs I mixed up.

Thoughts?


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    #23685079 - 09/28/16 12:32 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I've noticed metabolites are a calling card of reishi


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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: TravelAgency]
    #23685945 - 09/28/16 09:37 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

They should go ahead and colonize yet. Thinking it would make a better pin set with all the sub colonized.More energy? Guess time will tell. Used layers in the tub I made so they colonized all at once.


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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: Quadman]
    #23686658 - 09/28/16 01:19 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Hey Quad, how well do these conk in a tub? I'm about to start some up in bags on supplemented sawdust and was planning on letting them form antlers in the bags and then cut the bags open to make conks, I was thinking if they conk well in tubs I may just put all of the bags in tubs when it's time to conk, use monotubs with polyfil to dial in FAE, my fruiting room will be full and I would still like to get a maximum yield from these. What do you think?


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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: Marty Mycfly]
    #23686673 - 09/28/16 01:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

FYI Pastywhyte said the fruits will grow right through poly or micropore and become ingrained in the fruit and impossible to separate.

I was going to use poly with this grow until he told me this. Now I'm just going to keep the bottom holes taped.


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    #23686679 - 09/28/16 01:23 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Did he happen to say anything about conking and FAE in the tubs?


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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: Marty Mycfly]
    #23686710 - 09/28/16 01:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I think he cracked the lid open on his old reishi growlog after a while but they never conked.
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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: Greg]
    #23686765 - 09/28/16 01:45 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

In the monos I've seen they conch out the holes and the rest stay antlers


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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: Greg]
    #23686794 - 09/28/16 01:51 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I just read in GGMM that the antlers loose the ability to conk at a certain point, I think he said 4 inches.
I saw this video where this guy is using a block he got as kit that came with a bag with holes to put over his block while it fruited and worked really well from what I can tell, that's where I got the idea to take the bags and grow the antlers invitro, cut open the bags and pack them into tubs that would allow  FAE, they would probably need to be misted Im sure.
Here is the video with this guys block, I was really impressed.


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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: Marty Mycfly]
    #23686936 - 09/28/16 02:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah the antlers never conked for me in the mono. Forrester was able to get em but he took the lid off the tub and replaced with plast with huge holes cut into it. TBH I'm not sure with mine if conks would have been worth it in the tubs given how much weight I was able to pull from antlers.


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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: Marty Mycfly]
    #23686959 - 09/28/16 02:28 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I haven't put conks on , worried about spores. In my reading they said to grow out antlers with the lid on . When several inches long take lid off and turn tub on its side. Total fresh air, high humidity is not that important and you will have a micro environment if you have a nice size block of mycelium. They like a lot of light.

The fresh air and the vertical surface help induce the conk.
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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23687040 - 09/28/16 02:45 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I have read that the antlers are about 1/4 of total yield if taking them to conks, but like quad said I too am worried about spores, I'm switching out my whole operation due to being allergic as fuck to oyster spores, that is one reason invitro reishi antlers is so attractive.
Do you guys growing conks notice an allergy or irritation with reishi? I can see from pictures they are spore powerhouses.


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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: Marty Mycfly]
    #23687359 - 09/28/16 04:06 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Im not sure that getting these to conk would have changed the yield much. The biomass could not have filled more available space in the tub.



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    #23687375 - 09/28/16 04:10 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

However my next mono with these in plan to get the antlers started and then try and fruit without a lid at all.


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    #23687380 - 09/28/16 04:10 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

That is a piece of art itself, wow. Your right, if that conked out it would of been gnarly.
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    #23687409 - 09/28/16 04:16 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Just a high spawn ratio. 1:2 rye to oak pellets.


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    #23687860 - 09/28/16 06:26 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

:takingnotes:

So far Pasty of what I've seen you prefer monos to bags for reishi- is this true?


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    #23687999 - 09/28/16 07:06 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Meh it's what I have done. Did me some bottles as well last year.



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    #23688034 - 09/28/16 07:16 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Nice! So is there an advantage to antlers vs conchs? Conchs sure are beautiful and I'd guess it would be "greater yield" but I feel if they spend their energy conching to early there would be less antlers. I'm still totally new to the species- just now trying to fruit my first bag, so any information would be helpful. Saw from years old posts most people were cutting slits to form just conchs- but I'd bet that had more to do with their market.


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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: TravelAgency]
    #23688397 - 09/28/16 08:45 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I don't know if there is an advantage to conks medicinally  (tho I'm sure someone knows if there is) but antlers are certainly the easier yield.


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    #23688414 - 09/28/16 08:52 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

How do you prepare your Reishi? Tea or something?


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    #23688425 - 09/28/16 08:55 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Tincture. It's usually a mix of lucidum, neo-japs, Hericium, shiitake, cubes, and chaga if I have it.


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A mixture of all of those together sounds like






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    #23688456 - 09/28/16 09:05 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

It keeps me going thats for sure.


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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23688519 - 09/28/16 09:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Where did you get your neo-jap culture? I'm trying to trade for one now, just waiting for a response to a PM.

I'd love to grow one of the types of black reishis, but I can't find them anywhere...


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    #23688562 - 09/28/16 09:37 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

It was given to me but it's not easy to grow. That clone had some sneaky bacteria riding along that took some doing to clean up. That grow pictured is actually with the dirty culture.

I got it clean now and was planning to do a giveaway eventually. But life has been fucking me for months now. 2016 can't be over soon enough.


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    #23688592 - 09/28/16 09:44 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Sorry man, I know what that's like...

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    #23690566 - 09/29/16 01:15 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Update!

Tub that wasn't mixed properly, side view:

Top view of random tub:


Tub that got 1:3 instead of 2:3 spawn ratio:

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    #23690572 - 09/29/16 01:16 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

That culture is pretty beast. No fucks given. Nice.


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    #23690579 - 09/29/16 01:18 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

There's one tub that has two grains stuck to the tape that's covering one of the holes. It made a mat of myc over the entire surface of the tape...


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Heavy spawning, whats general fail rate?


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    #23690721 - 09/29/16 01:56 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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My fail rate spawning to monos with g lucidum? So far zero, it's so agressive that high success is pretty simple to achieve.


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    #23690771 - 09/29/16 02:08 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

What kind of spawn rate are you using when you do those tubs pasty?


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    #23690784 - 09/29/16 02:11 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

1:2 usually. Cube habits die hard and spawn is cheap to make when you get grain for free or close to it :tongue:


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    #23690820 - 09/29/16 02:19 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Ha!
I remember reading stamets making the argument for making your own spawn with that point,  being able to use higher spawn rates to increase yield rather than supplementing more, way more of a success rate.


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    #23690890 - 09/29/16 02:45 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Ok, I'm sold. I Will try heavy spawn rate, fully mixed, on the weekend.


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    #23696868 - 10/01/16 11:07 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

UPDATE TIME!
I pulled the tape off the top holes yesterday.

Three tubs (two pine, one fir) have what I am tentatively calling pins.
See the yellow blob with condensation all over it?

One tub has a tiny spot of penicillium, trich or some green mold attached to the liner. Notice the group of metabs next to it?

One tub has a little patch of very dark metabs, pretty gross looking.
The patch is slowly expanding:

This tub is yellowing, kind of hard to see in the photo:


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    #23699542 - 10/02/16 09:04 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Wow, Snow white and the 700 mushrooms.

:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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    #23700178 - 10/02/16 01:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

More of these pins have appeared and the one I pointed out in the pictures above has grown a bit! It's getting darker colored too.


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    #23706157 - 10/04/16 09:31 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

The fir tubs are blobbing pretty well, the pine has hardly shown any signs of fruiting.
Some of the fir tubs have mold in small amounts.
Hopefully it grows slowly enough that I can get a harvest.

Fir with blobs:


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    #23709440 - 10/05/16 10:08 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I never use pine pellets for growing Reishi, I'm looking forward to it going to give. :smile:


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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: Mushroom love]
    #23716248 - 10/07/16 12:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Full update, all ten tubs.
Number 10 is the low spawn rate tub.

Fir:
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Pine:
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The actual fruitbodies grow so slowly compared to the myc...

I found the original Ebay listing I bought the culture from, this is a picture of (supposedly) the same culture fruiting from bags outdoors.


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    #23716473 - 10/07/16 01:56 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Sweet, I wonder what kind of environment and temps were going on to fruit so well outside on those bags.


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    #23724731 - 10/10/16 10:29 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I gotta say...
Some of these tubs are starting to look really questionable.

Example:


What do you guys think? Toss?
The blobs are still growing...

Edit, there are some good looking ones too:


Dropped my camera and broke the autofocus shit in the lens :frown:


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    #23744846 - 10/17/16 08:48 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Just wanted to say, I'll have an update for this by the end of the week.

They're finally starting to turn orange/yellow and are growing a lot each day!

The moldy spots on the subs are not slowing them down at all or damaging the fruits so far.

Here's a 6 day comparison, these are the same tub:



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    #23745119 - 10/17/16 10:27 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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    #23757668 - 10/21/16 10:53 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Full update!
All of the tubs are now fruiting.
Number ten (the low spawn rate one) has a shitty pinset compared to the rest, but it's trying at least.

Overall I'm pretty happy with the current results, these are my first monotubs :smile:

I can definitely recommend pine or fir for reishi now!

Fir:
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Pine:
6:7:8:9:10:

As you can see hybrid vs. regular minimono design didn't make much of a difference.
Some of the fruits have developed pores but are not sporulating!

Sorry if some of the images are a bit blurry, the focusing mechanism on my camera lens is trashed and it floats around unless I hold very still while taking photos.

Updated the OP as well to reflect some of the updates I made.

How long do you guys think these will grow for? How long til harvest?


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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: Greg]
    #23757788 - 10/21/16 11:41 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Was just wondering about your grow. They look good. Mine just started slowing growth so I cut them. I think they went a couple months. Put them on vodka today.:smile:


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    #23758173 - 10/21/16 02:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Dude awesome job:thumbup:
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    #23760667 - 10/22/16 11:28 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah they're only 3 dollars per huge bag here.
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    #23760797 - 10/22/16 12:17 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I had a spare lid so I made this thing:

Gonna try to get a conk out of one of these tubs...

Edit: tub 3 is the chosen one :eek:


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    #23761108 - 10/22/16 02:23 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

It should work, i did it for turkey tails a while back  :super:



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that's super cool

So they just pin through the holes like oyster mushrooms then?

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It should work, i did it for turkey tails a while back  :super:





Thats brown card, and also I get the same colour change due to digestion.
Very interesting images, also a good advert for using brown card.

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that's super cool

So they just pin through the holes like oyster mushrooms then?

I was going for a sgfc type lid just for more FAE than a standard minimono could supply.



Yup,

Oh i thought you'll let them conk through the holes my bad lol, they might still do it though, they could antler there way to the top and conk there


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Thats brown card, and also I get the same colour change due to digestion.
Very interesting images, also a good advert for using brown card.

What is the recipe you used to make the substrate?



Just shredded cardboard box, soaked with hot coffee infused water, its super easy to pasteurise it, either way its hard to get contaminated cardboard.

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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? *DELETED* [Re: Teemo 6T3]
    #23761249 - 10/22/16 03:21 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: stevo]
    #23761481 - 10/22/16 05:00 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I got the culture long before I knew about Shroomery's sponsors, it's from an Ebay seller:
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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? *DELETED* [Re: Greg]
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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: stevo]
    #23761629 - 10/22/16 05:36 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah I suspect it's not actually G. lucidum. Far too orange colored.

A semi-well-known user here (Mr. Cloudy) told me most if not all reishi species can be "trained" to grow on softwoods. (paraphrasing)


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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: stevo]
    #23762084 - 10/22/16 08:00 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Not threadjacking at all!
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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: Greg]
    #23763197 - 10/23/16 04:13 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Time to go back to the woods. There is an ancient woods near me filled with, I think, black reishi.
I will have to go back and take some images, I could also try to clone them.

Thats if they are still there, was a few months ago.


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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: Ferather]
    #23763755 - 10/23/16 10:14 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Here is an image, which is close to the colour of the ones I saw growing.
The ones I saw where much better looking, and deeper in colour.



So probably an ancient red reishi, not black.
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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: Ferather]
    #23763767 - 10/23/16 10:16 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Then you better get your surgical shank ready to clone it fam :rockon:


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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: Teemo 6T3]
    #23763796 - 10/23/16 10:24 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I will take images and samples. Anything to note other than the tree its growing on?


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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: Ferather]
    #23764620 - 10/23/16 03:57 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Average temperature they are growing in?


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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: Marty Mycfly]
    #23768463 - 10/24/16 10:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I was told coir works for reishi as well as lions mane. Pure coir they said. I plan to try it

Edit: coir works for lions mane. Dunno about reishi but I've tried it once to have it mold. I'll try again sometime


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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: Raven44]
    #23770222 - 10/25/16 02:25 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Neat photo I took today for a contest in the marketplace:
Reishis in the mist.


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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: Greg]
    #23770277 - 10/25/16 02:43 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Id do something about the loose moldy grains and the patch on the right.
Only saying that because mold is a known fruit body pathogen.

Apple cider vinegar and salt mixed in a sprayer.
Spray down effected areas, avoid fruits.

Job done, hopefully.


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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: Ferather]
    #23770304 - 10/25/16 02:51 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah I noticed those...
Some sub and grains spilled over the liner when I made the tubs and I didn't notice until it molded.
I already cleaned out most of it but some still shows up every so often.

Next time I'm going to mix the sub and spawn outside the tubs then pour it in so this doesn't happen.
Either that or I'll just go without liners.

Some of the substrates themselves actually got a bit of mold too.
The reishi myc made horrible looking black metabs around it wherever it appeared and the mold stopped expanding :hehehe:

If this was something other than reishi I'm sure the mold would have ruined it by now.
Good opportunity to learn and tighten up my sterile technique I guess.


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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: Greg]
    #23770314 - 10/25/16 02:56 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Situation handled then  :thumbup:


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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: Ferather]
    #23792502 - 11/01/16 06:54 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Some of the tubs are getting a resurgence of green mold unfortunately.
I'm probably going to harvest everything tomorrow despite them still growing.

Still trying to figure out the vector.
It happened pretty early so I'm guessing it was from the spawn.


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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: Greg]
    #23793817 - 11/02/16 06:58 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Bummer, don't want to sound rude but I gave a heads up early  :frown:
90% water content, ready glycogen + pathogenic.


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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: Ferather]
    #23794365 - 11/02/16 11:38 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Despite that, I still think this proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that reishi will fruit on conifers without an issue.

Final weights were both exactly 345g wet for both substrate types.
Terrible horrible awful yield for 10 tubs, but with the multitude of issues and fuckups along the way I'm happy with that.

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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: Greg]
    #23794407 - 11/02/16 11:59 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

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Yeah I noticed those...
Some sub and grains spilled over the liner when I made the tubs and I didn't notice until it molded.
I already cleaned out most of it but some still shows up every so often.

Next time I'm going to mix the sub and spawn outside the tubs then pour it in so this doesn't happen.
Either that or I'll just go without liners.

Some of the substrates themselves actually got a bit of mold too.
The reishi myc made horrible looking black metabs around it wherever it appeared and the mold stopped expanding :hehehe:

If this was something other than reishi I'm sure the mold would have ruined it by now.
Good opportunity to learn and tighten up my sterile technique I guess.



Hey Greg, nice work despite the low yield...they sure are pretty! Not sure what your liner is, but whenever I do a tub, I mix it all up in a trash bag in the tub and then cut away the excess after its all mixed and flattened out in the tub to avoid just the issue you had.  Just a thought.


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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: Mycolorado]
    #23794521 - 11/02/16 12:53 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

That's not bad . What do you think ,couple months supply? I had 91 grams dry off my 1 - 20 qt tub.
Then I screwed up the 2 new tubs I made. They looked dry and so added some water.:rolleyes:


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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: Quadman]
    #23794772 - 11/02/16 02:36 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I agree Greg, you achieved victory regardless.  :thumbup:


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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: Ferather]
    #23795473 - 11/02/16 06:24 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Even tho it was a lower yield then u expected it is still a nice yield and a great learning experience! I'm sure ur going to kill it next round..
I wonder if yeild would have been different with a oak instead of pine..

How much tincture will this make u?


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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: keifnnugs]
    #23795506 - 11/02/16 06:32 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks for the kind words everyone!
I'm not bummed out at all about the yield as this is just a learning experience like everything else in this hobby. :smile:

Considering it was my first go with A2G and monotubs I'm still stoked about getting any yield at all.

I think it'll make quite a lot of tincture but I'm not sure how much yet.
I'm giving away a small amount of reishis to a farmer friend who is super in to making tinctures and stuff.
Some of my tincture will be going to my parents also.
I'll update this when all the tincture is made.

Right now they're all vacuum packed and dehydrated already.

I think I'm going to start a new reishi grow with a different culture really soon.


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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: Greg]
    #23795531 - 11/02/16 06:39 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Oh, new culture? Is it different or still lucidium? I picked a wild reishi this summer only the size of a silver dollar. It smelled for days and smelled the whole car up. Needless to say I was disappointed to not get it cloned. My culture did not have that powerful odor makes me wonder if it is less potent. Did yours have a strong scent?


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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: Quadman]
    #23795592 - 11/02/16 07:06 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Haven't actually bought another culture yet so I'm not sure what species I will grow.

These did have a very strong skunky citrus and mushroom smell especially during dehydrating them.


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Re: Reishi on pine pellets? [Re: Greg]
    #23798750 - 11/03/16 07:05 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Once my culture takes to agar we should do a reishi grow competition..  Should be some friendly fun

What's the name of the darker reishi? I believe I saw pics from pasty..
If u can find who's selling those I'd be happy to purchase those and share with u Greg


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Awesome stuff greg


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