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Re: Not interacting with life [Re: They] 1
#23782442 - 10/29/16 11:52 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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They should probably take your words with a grain of salt as well. MDMA can and does benefit people with big time social anxiety disorders. Alcohol is a social lubricant, but can and does make things worse for people.
>>Good OP, skip the info, find fault in it, don't use it, use your magic in that way >constant use of laugh gremlins
a lot of this is passive-aggressive, and another reason why I'm taking what you said with a grain of salt and why others should too... not to further offend you.
>>In your mind it means "Having money to pay for a local doctor of this and that kind, so that they can "fix" you". In my mind it means "Having access to the proper relevant data that you need to fix yourself" which you do, right here in this thread (and elsewhere online) and nowhere does money have to flow into it, not necessarily.
I was on several different psychiatric medications that I would very much like access to again now that I'm older and able to understand the scope to which they helped me before hand. You are making assumptions about my life in a sense I feel that you aren't in a position to do so. You may think that the medical industry as it pertains to psychiatric health is a total farce and that people don't ever really need that kind of help, but that's not always the reality of the situation... some people really do need certain medications to function properly.
>>I love it when people equate diplomas with knowledge, how you still imagine that if you had money and showed up to a local doc, you'd get higher quality info than you can get here. Bewildering to me, to say the least 
the doctors have access to nice big fancy machines that can run physical tests and scans, and can definitely give a patient a far better look at what's going on, whereas with just looking online they would be self-diagnosing which is kind of a problem as they don't often have the right medical knowledge or training to make a call like that. Your post ends as if to tell people to just not bother with doctors as all of their answers can be found on drug message boards like The Shroomery, and that's probably not a good thing.
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It's fine, you're absolutely free to show allegiance to pharma pills, alcohol or MDMA, it's all good. We're all intuitively attracted to whatever resonates with us at that time in our life, and yeah, some things we must experience first hand to then know better, or in fact continue on that path if we find it has true merit.
I used to be a pretty hardcore gamer for example, endless hours mindlessly poured into what I now consider extremely self-destructive crap. If someone ever took the time to explain to me, in terms I understand, just precisely what I'm doing to myself, maybe I would have taken it slower with that stuff. I can do that kind of explaining now, but back then I just didn't have the data, or didn't analyze it deep enough to make the proper connections.
Even if you'd like to get certain meds that are now unavailable to you, realize that it's not helping you, to live in that fantasy in your head, that goes oh how good it would be if I had all this, how bad it is that I don't.
You will when you earn it, when you really need to have it, if ever. I too wish I was in Peru, kicking it with weekly Ayahuasca sessions and painting my ass off with fellow artists, they even have epic plant admixtures that specifically boost visual art related areas of the brain, and I've seen them work epic wonders, people paint like crazy after them. Guess what? I'm not there. Am not there yet because one of the psychedelic lessons for me is to learn to work with what I have, here in Europe, not with what I wish I had, if only I were richer, somewhere else or whatever. If I got the Peru trip and all the Ayahuasca I ever wanted, what incentive would I have had to go learn meditation, learn to run my head with or without psychedelics? I would have used Aya much more like a crutch, kind of like you seem to think of those pharma meds now.
So what I'm saying is in my perception, you're disregarding some pretty useful and effective info, because it's the kind of info you'd have to act on, as opposed to others (doctors, machines, pills) doing all the work for you, from outside.
Which as I said, you are free to do, I've seen this kind of thinking hundreds of times now, I know the ins and outs of it, nothing new here, so you keep on doing it and enjoy 
Continue not leaving your house except for work and food, focusing on how things are awful and getting worse, nothing matters, everything everyone says, that would involve any kind of effort to try out, is TL;DR.
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Re: Not interacting with life [Re: They]
#23783086 - 10/29/16 04:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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They said: It's fine, you're absolutely free to show allegiance to pharma pills, alcohol or MDMA, it's all good.
More passive aggression. Looks like you haven't read what I've said previously either so I'll stop reading there as well. When I mentioned MDMA, I noted the drawbacks, and ultimately my hesitance to even take it - the same sentiment goes for alcohol - a farcry from "showing allegiance".
>>Continue not leaving your house except for work and food, focusing on how things are awful and getting worse, nothing matters, everything everyone says, that would involve any kind of effort to try out, is TL;DR.
Yeah, seems like your aim here isn't to help people but rather to stroke your own ego. That's why I'm disregarding much (not all) of what you're posting. Clearly I'm going to have to expose myself to more and more of what I'm having problems with though, that's for sure.
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Dude, I've seen this process so many times, this one you're in right now. Phase, state, process, whatever you wish to call it.
Not interacting with life.
There's a "do you want to?" question there. Do you WANT TO interact with life?
If no - good, you're not doing it, you're getting what you want.
If "I don't know" - good, that's pretty much a no, so see above. Give it some time maybe later you will.
If "yes" then HOW? What would you like to DO? Clarify. Speak in clear sentences, I WANT TO X.
Any reversal to "I don't know" means basically you don't want to do that point, for if you really did, you'd spend more time analyzing, to give at least SOME signal, in some direction, that you want something in a general direction of this.
Any answers with "I want this BUT I can't because" that's a PBN pattern. Positive BUT negative. I would BUT I can't because. The solution to that is extremely simple, and it's switching to NBP. Negative BUT positive. This is hard BUT I'll try it anyway.
The order of operations in a sentence, PBN vs. NBP, is what gives you the energy level left "in the air" after saying it. Depressed or pessimistic people use PBN to remain negative low energy, optimists use NBP instead. One doesn't become blind to the negativity or obstacles in life, just finds a more constructive place for them, considering them the beginning of the story, the challenge, not the end.
I put my info in the long post I took time to write, I even said it requires more than one read to get it, and on your end it's apparently not worth looking at even once. Fine.
Know that I take great pleasure in making comprehensive posts like that, that I feel do contain the answer, and then see how the intended recipient is often stubborn, resisting, refusing to read it, preferring to be right and rigid, as opposed to flexible and finding progress. There's that super fresh element that I feel when this goes on, as I see you're basically fooling yourself. Winning the battle losing the war. Oh well
I've seen some amazing things on this forum, even in my short presence here. Both over and in threads, I see people walking around with HUGE health or emotional issues, and they want them fixed American style, magically, presto, something external happens and I am fixed. If possible it should be quick, and also free, as I need my money for whatever else, not health and growth.
Oh and notice how this is your thread, and whether consciously or not, your posts are some of the shortest in here. This is not criticism for you to get defensive about. I am pointing out something you are doing, to realize you do a lot of this stuff to yourself, and can also change it if you want to. Look at post length. Either short posts, or long negative posts. This short-on-the-positive, long-on-the-negative is what gives the game away. If you do it in here, you likely do it in your head as well.
And here we ar to the primordial question the universe always asks of you. Would you like to? Stop with the negatives and put more positive data in? In your head, in this thread, in general?
If no, fine. If "I don't know" fine. If yes, of what kind? Take some time and write a longer post of what you want to do in life, in your mind and in your regular day there, and once you get going you'll see plenty of ways to actually do it.
I do hope you find more reasons to argue with me, as opposed to just focusing on the functional advice given, applying it and being a cheerful happy camper. Why apply effective techniques when you can argue about how they can't work?
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Anonymous said:
MDMA can and does benefit people with big time social anxiety disorders.
Many millions of people ingest booze and Xanax every day to reduce anxiety.
That doesn't mean people require drugs to reduce their anxiety.
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They said:
Why apply effective techniques when you can argue about how they can't work? 
They are words of wisdom . . . we are often resistant to reducing our suffering.
Show a person how to feel better and they will invent 100 reasons not to.
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