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PF Tek - rice flour settles down
    #23620943 - 09/07/16 06:52 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Hi Guys,

I have prepared some glasses with the standard PF-Tek method using 2-1-1 verm., brown rice flour and water.

After PRC the jars, the rice flour settles down at the bottom of the jars:



Until now, I can see mycelium growing but I am afraid if it can't colonize the bottom of the jar since the rice flour settles down there. Will this be a problem?

Thanks!


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Re: PF Tek - rice flour settles down [Re: shrumzen]
    #23620961 - 09/07/16 07:03 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I've never had this happened to me, try mixing it better next time.  If that doesn't help, try using finer vermiculite.


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Re: PF Tek - rice flour settles down [Re: Tira]
    #23620965 - 09/07/16 07:06 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Maybe thats why you pur the water in dry verm and sprinkle and mix in the flour so its all over..which you didnt do clearly


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Re: PF Tek - rice flour settles down [Re: TheGODSmadeMe]
    #23621016 - 09/07/16 07:29 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I mixed verm + flour first and then pour water over.


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Re: PF Tek - rice flour settles down [Re: shrumzen]
    #23621044 - 09/07/16 07:40 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

yeah do it like the TEK does. also your flour looks more like chunks.


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Re: PF Tek - rice flour settles down [Re: spacechildo]
    #23621072 - 09/07/16 07:52 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

This is self-made rice flour, made with my high speed blender.

Do you think the myc will still colonize the bottom of the jar. If not, what can I do?


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Re: PF Tek - rice flour settles down [Re: shrumzen]
    #23621121 - 09/07/16 08:13 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

What will happen will happen, there is nothing to do at this point.

If you're making the flour yourself, you should grind it again and again until it is fine dust -like flour should be.

I used to mix verm and flour first too when I was making cakes, if you pour the water slowly while mixing the verm and flour as you pour, there will be no problem.

Just wait and see how they colonize.  They should at least give you some fruits to take spore prints and start over -if you don't have any spores left.


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Re: PF Tek - rice flour settles down [Re: Tira]
    #23621255 - 09/07/16 09:19 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for the advise. Will let u know how it goes.


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Re: PF Tek - rice flour settles down [Re: shrumzen]
    #23621358 - 09/07/16 09:59 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I made a few jars like that once..
its really important to bring the verm to field capacity
and then in small amounts, mix the flour in.

IME it did a better job of 'coating' the hydrated verm if
i used a small amount of flour at a time. also excess water
can turn the flour into a thick slurry. no good :frown:


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Re: PF Tek - rice flour settles down [Re: mushboy]
    #23621394 - 09/07/16 10:11 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Like other people said you wanna put verm in a bowl then slowly add water until it reaches capacity. After that you wanna slowly add the flour. The goal is to "coat" the wet verm with the flour :smile:


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Re: PF Tek - rice flour settles down [Re: lovelaughlibs]
    #23621522 - 09/07/16 10:48 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Just pour water on verm till its wet and sprinkle in flour mix well..


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Re: PF Tek - rice flour settles down [Re: TheGODSmadeMe]
    #23621634 - 09/07/16 11:15 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

:facepalm:

how many accounts do you really need to spread your bad info godsmademedoit?


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Re: PF Tek - rice flour settles down [Re: spacechildo]
    #23621721 - 09/07/16 11:44 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

spacechildo said:
:facepalm:

how many accounts do you really need to spread your bad info godsmademedoit?



Whats bad info about that..thats what the tek calls for child. SSpace


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Re: PF Tek - rice flour settles down [Re: TheGODSmadeMe]
    #23621745 - 09/07/16 11:50 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

but newbies need better info than. just..
Quote:

TheGODSmadeMe said:
Just pour water on verm till its wet and sprinkle in flour mix well..




that provides no details or advice.

its like 'how do i make burgers?'
and the answer is 'you cook it'


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Re: PF Tek - rice flour settles down [Re: mushboy]
    #23621753 - 09/07/16 11:53 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Step one pour one cup of water on 2 cups vermiculite..step two sprinkle one cup brf stir in while mixing..step 3 load jars...this is some elementary basics so if you cant even get that right...idk might not be any hope for ya...


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Re: PF Tek - rice flour settles down [Re: mushboy]
    #23621761 - 09/07/16 11:55 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

exactly mushboy.

and this aint the first time I've facepalmed one of godsmademe's many accounts poor advice. most his puppets are banned now, thank god! (mods)
cant you just stick to one? https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showprofile.php?User=375582

field capacity for cakes is too much. drier cakes colonize faster. then you dunk them before fruiting so they're still at max water capasity when fruited.


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Re: PF Tek - rice flour settles down [Re: spacechildo]
    #23621770 - 09/07/16 12:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Not talking field capacity son. Just brf mixtures and why it would be settling on the bottom..did you even read this thread my child..silly kids...your last advice isnt even relevant to this thread son


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Re: PF Tek - rice flour settles down [Re: TheGODSmadeMe]
    #23621774 - 09/07/16 12:02 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

TheGODSmadeMe said:
Step one pour one cup of water on 2 cups vermiculite..step two sprinkle one cup brf in while mixing..step 3 load jars...this is some elementary basics so if you cant even get that right...idk might not be any hope for ya...





hahahah no dont do it that way bro.

bring the verm to field capacity FIRST. then slowly add 1 large spoonful of brf
to the mix. sometimes you need to adjust the water content once you have added
a couple of spoons of the flour.

see the difference dude. come on. some people struggle with getting the consistency
correct so it helps to give the best info.

damn.

EDIT: fighting about the pf tek is like fighting about how to jerk off. just
play around and do what feels right.


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Re: PF Tek - rice flour settles down [Re: mushboy]
    #23621782 - 09/07/16 12:05 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Or follow the tek one cup water one cup flour two cups vermiculite..i never bring to field capacity on cakes thats what i do with bulk substrate and grains..


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Re: PF Tek - rice flour settles down [Re: mushboy]
    #23621797 - 09/07/16 12:10 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

lol cakes to bulk?

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