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Re: Do you guys regularly freakout when tripping [Re: ruaware]
#23620644 - 09/07/16 03:25 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've had atleast 5 good trips, 150Ug and 250Ug were my usual dosages. I totally agree with that statement, I sometimes get these weird moments. But after that everything becomes fine. Any reasoning to it?
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Re: Do you guys regularly freakout when tripping [Re: Wallewho]
#23620699 - 09/07/16 04:18 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've freaked out a few times on Ayahuasca, once on 1p-lsd but never on mushrooms or truffles. Subconscious fear maybe?
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Re: Do you guys regularly freakout when tripping [Re: HyperboreanDream]
#23620872 - 09/07/16 06:10 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I used to kinda freak out and it can still happen. For the most part I'm pretty comfortable with tripping and have a good idea what to expect from the dosages I take (referring mostly to LSD since OP mentioned his "freak out" was on LSD). Still can get overwhelming tho of course but I havent freaked out since I was still fairly new to tripping. Also those brief moments are you trying to rationalize whats happening to you. Youre comming up on a very powerful drug and your brain only has so much time to come to terms wit the intense changes haha. Just go with the flow and ride it out
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Re: Do you guys regularly freakout when tripping [Re: SonicTitan]
#23620899 - 09/07/16 06:27 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've taken doses ranging from 100-400 ug. The first 4 were very comforting and positive. My last trip, I took about a 200ug dose and things got a little bit nerve racking. It wasn't a bad trip, but kind of a tough trip. Set and setting seem to be key. I made the mistake of dosing after a hectic weekend.
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Re: Do you guys regularly freakout when tripping [Re: Rise against]
#23621210 - 09/07/16 08:55 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've found lsd has the potential for mind loops and thought loops in general whixh can create strong confusion but just as the meme says eventually you realize you are just peaking and it's fades away. Try to keep that in mind and I bet it lowers
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Re: Do you guys regularly freakout when tripping [Re: ruaware]
#23621254 - 09/07/16 09:18 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just don't get into a panic around someone who doesn't know whats up. They make the wrong kind of phone call and a "bad trip" turns into a real bad trip.
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Re: Do you guys regularly freakout when tripping [Re: ruaware] 1
#23621266 - 09/07/16 09:25 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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ruaware said: So does this happen to everyone regularly?
Got to ride the wave when it appears. Takes practice.
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Re: Do you guys regularly freakout when tripping [Re: PrimalSoup]
#23621277 - 09/07/16 09:31 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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At this point in life, I'm not gonna trip if I think there's any chance of "freaking out".
Looking back, I don't think I ever got out of control while tripping. I've almost suffocated from laughing. I spent a trip in despair because the trip started with a phone call from my girlfriend who was freaking out because she thought she was pregnant.
One big plus for tripping alone is that other people can't bring you down. There's nothing worse than dealing with someone else's messed up personality while tripping. Overly dramatic people are so annoying.
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Re: Do you guys regularly freakout when tripping [Re: Universe]
#23621442 - 09/07/16 10:23 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have tripped every week, or every other week on lsd this summer. I had 2 or 3 "bad trips" It all happened the same way, panic attack. And, the same cause, weed on the comeup/peak. If I space a bowl out for the first few hours until I am past the peak, then smoke some more I am a-okay, but If I get totally stoned, bowl after bowl all of a sudden a panic hits me.
Third time it happened, I knew what was up and waited it out checks pains, rapid heartbeat are no fun. I even had to test the same batch of LSD once because I was freaking out one of those times.
That being said, I usually take 2-4 hits. The last handfull of trips have been between 5-8, I was also taking some anti anxiety meds, xannys, gabas ect. I ended up falling asleep tripping balls three of the last 5 trips. My last trip, I took 5 hits and I could hardly walk straight, but didn't fall asleep and Its been 3+ weeks since that trip, It kind of put my on my ass, and I had to remind myself "your tripping balls, it will be fine" once that night. LSD is a hard beast to tackle, and you always should work your way up. I was the same way, I think i took 1 and 3/4 of tabs my first trip because I was scared of 2.
Its all about mindset and setting. I have been off and on the xannys last few weeks, and my anxietys through the roof, literally. I have come close to having those panic attacks without tripping, so I can only imagine what it would be like on the comeup for a couple hours, i think ill pay the piper and wait it out until these xanny wds are over. Went from a bar or two a day, and I took 4 days off, and took 1mg, and i took 3 days off and took .5mg. I feel like its getting better, and I may be able to make it better now.
Anxiety comes with LSD, and if you already suffer from anxiety it is really hard to enjoy it, Kratom was my go to all summer long, every day. I quit cold turkey and picked up the xanny binge for a few weeks, stupid I know, but its over a handfull of times of Opiate like wds, and 3rd time cold turkey on kratom and I will say without a doubt, it was way worse than the Hydro addiction I had years back, with 75MG hydro doses, sometimes multiple times a day.
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Re: Do you guys regularly freakout when tripping [Re: LSDollar]
#23621531 - 09/07/16 10:49 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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My only real "bad " trip was from mushrooms. It affected me for a while after.
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Re: Do you guys regularly freakout when tripping [Re: ruaware]
#23621984 - 09/07/16 01:15 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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If you're referring to the shock that psychedelics can give you like the transdimensional hyperreal slap in the face well that went away for me after several or so trips. But this is talking about mushrooms, I never got it with LSD.
I have had bad LSD trips but I don't really count that as the same thing.
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Re: Do you guys regularly freakout when tripping [Re: ruaware]
#23622859 - 09/07/16 05:34 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Over the past 10 years of my travels, and some 200 experiences or so with the various classic psychedelics (I lost count a long while ago, that's a rough estimation)....
.....I've only had one single experience that I guess I would label a "freak out" , and it didn't occur until my 9th year of working with psychedelics. It was with a moderate dose of mushrooms>>>>
First "bad time" after 9 years & 100+ trips
Before that trip, I never ever came anywhere close to having a "freak out"...The sailing has always been smooth and level headed in all my travels, that's not to say I haven't had incredibly intense/shocking experiences.
Since that one trip, which I posted about in the link....since then I've had the same exact "worry/paranoia" arise randomly during two other mushroom trips, basically falling right back into that same worry/dread/panic and pattern of thoughts that I had that night....but I managed it, it didn't spiral out of control or get close to the intensity that I had that one night, I'm able to let go of the thoughts & feels, let the wave crash and it all dissipates & drifts away after 10 to 20 minutes or so.
I've never had anything close to a rough experience in all my travels with LSD (besides going through food poisoning on a hot summer day during the thick of the peak on something like 300mcg a couple months ago ) .... Mescaline is super chill....Smoked DMT, there's no time/space for a freak out to occur IME with it so far...Mushrooms are what brings out that potential for me (and most folks it seems), heavy on the emotions and primal feels, major and quick sways from one extreme to another. Mushrooms are still hands down my favorite psychedelic though, I love them so very dearly
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Re: Do you guys regularly freakout when tripping [Re: openmind]
#23623117 - 09/07/16 06:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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One time I was playing a zombie video game called dying light, very realistic later i dosed and started thinking of zombies. Let's just say never fucking do this.
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Shrooms. When I take higher doses of shrooms sometimes I'll have a brief moment where I think I've gone completely crazy, or going completely crazy, but usually something happens that fixes that feeling and then from there on the trip is gold.
I've never experienced it on LSD but I definitely have with 25i. Never touched any RC after my first experience with one.
Are you sure its LSD and not a RC? Just a off hand chance maybe. If it was an RC I definitely think that could be the reason but I would think an RC would cause a longer period of the feeling you describe as opposed to a brief period that goes away.
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Re: Do you guys regularly freakout when tripping [Re: SonicTitan]
#23623205 - 09/07/16 06:46 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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SonicTitan said: My only real "bad " trip was from mushrooms. It affected me for a while after.
I had a horrible shroom trip in 2004 and swore off mushrooms until about 2 months ago when my buddy gave me an ounce from his grow. 12 years of swearing them off and what did I find out? I was overreacting and there was no need to swear them off. But they definitely left an impression that night.
Didn't stop me from tripping just took a sabbatical from mushies...
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Re: Do you guys regularly freakout when tripping [Re: dcthestar]
#23623493 - 09/07/16 08:01 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've done that too, but only for 10 years.
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Re: Do you guys regularly freakout when tripping [Re: dcthestar]
#23623605 - 09/07/16 08:35 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I didn't stop me from tripping, but it did have a very lasting trauma on me for months afterwards where I did take a break from tripping. It brought out a lot of repressed fear/shame/sadness that was always constantly pushed away and ignored for years. Eventually after a bit was able to come to terms with my experience and did actually learn a lot from it overall down the road. Maybe it wasn't a bad experience but more of a harsh form of therapy.
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Re: Do you guys regularly freakout when tripping [Re: SonicTitan]
#23623791 - 09/07/16 09:19 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've never really had a bad trip and I've trip a lot of times
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Re: Do you guys regularly freakout when tripping [Re: SonicTitan]
#23624019 - 09/07/16 10:13 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah that's kind of what happened to me as well and it was borderline insanity for me. Like I said it was only mushrooms that I swore off... I kept eating LSD, AMT and Mdma during those years. Funny thing is that swearing off mushrooms made me realize I really really loved LSD lol.
Still do and my favorite high is a candy flip but an LSD mushrooms mix is getting way up there as far as favorites go.
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Re: Do you guys regularly freakout when tripping [Re: ruaware]
#23624832 - 09/08/16 06:13 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've never freaked out on LSD, I had one trip were it started to turn south but I turned it around pretty quickly. I tend to have pretty good control of my LSD trips though. I used to consistently freak out on mush though, i'm really sensitive to them and they tend to put me in a very strange head space.What i've learned is that if you are having really bad trips on a substance multiple times in a row than you should either stop doing that substance (or at least take a good lengthed break from it) or re evaluate your approach to the tripping.
Figure out what turned each one of your trips bad and think ofwhat you could do to deal with that.Trip in a place you feel more comfortable and safe at. Never take a dose when you're in a bad mood or don't know if you should be tripping. Trip during a sunny day. Don't watch or listen to any negative tv or music. Try to have at least one trip sitter around to help pump good vibes into your mind, but make sure they actually know how to trip sit.Do something that will keep your mind occupied (like playing guitar or drawing for example). And if you go to a really intense negative headspace were you end up freaking out because of how delirious the mindfuck is making you, than you can try having a note ready for yourself that you can read that has some sort of positive message written on it that will remind you that you just took LSD and will be completely okay. It might help you let go which is what you need to do.
One last thing that might help is makeing sure that for a few months (say maybe like 3 or 4) you read a trip report every day of a person having a very positive experience on LSD, and stay completely away from anything negative about the substance. Don't read trip reports about negative experiences, don't talk about anything negative having to do with the substance, and try your best not to think anything negative about the substance.It will start to imprint a more positive impression of it into your mind hopefully making you less worried about a bad trip which is good because if you go into a trip expecting and afraid of a bad trip than you will most likely have one.I'm not sure if any of this will work for you but I just thought i'd share what worked for me. Hope you have a good next trip.
Btw increasing it up to 300ug is not a good idea, the more intense your trip is the harder it is to coordinate your mind. I recommend starting back at 75ug and doing that dose until you feel completely comfortable at it, then increasing the dose by 50ug increments until you get to the dose you enjoy the most.
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Wait, for some reason I thought the entirety of each one of your trips was a freakout, not just a small section. Guess I need to read better lol. Either way though some of what I said might help. Peace.
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I can get quite delusional and paranoid on high doses (the postman knows!) But never freaked out as of such
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Re: Do you guys regularly freakout when tripping [Re: nssurge]
#23625059 - 09/08/16 08:28 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yee, it really all depends on the person I assume.
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Re: Do you guys regularly freakout when tripping [Re: dcthestar]
#23625240 - 09/08/16 09:49 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I still eat mushrooms whenever I can They are what I sought after but are pretty uncommon here as of the past few years. They are my preferred psych, where they have taught me the most about myself and the world.
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Re: Do you guys regularly freakout when tripping [Re: SonicTitan]
#23625267 - 09/08/16 09:59 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Been rough or challenging. Wouldnt say a bad trip. Ive tried to watch the movie alien on lsd, that lasted a few minutes. Basically i avoid the situations that lead to bad trips.
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Re: Do you guys regularly freakout when tripping [Re: filthyknees]
#23625272 - 09/08/16 10:01 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I watched Cannibal Holocaust on LSD hehe
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Re: Do you guys regularly freakout when tripping [Re: ruaware]
#23625420 - 09/08/16 11:06 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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define 'freak out' do you mean just feel shitty/anxious/afraid, or actively wig out like run around screaming or hide under a bed or something? I've never done the latter but almost every single trip I think 'why did I do this to myself, why do I do this in general fuck I'm never taking this shit again'. For me though the biggest thing is actually physical discomfort, the ideas don't bug me, but feeling nauseous or feverish is miserable enough to ruin a good chunk of most trips
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