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Re: Seriously questioning my religious views [Re: Zombi3] 1
#23622693 - 09/07/16 04:50 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Zombi3 said: You gotta question everything in your life at some point
WO you are now a heretic! Christians and other rigid hierarchical authoritarian cults do not like any questioning, and I include our secular culture based in scientism also. IF you 'question' here you can get yourself labeled 'mentally ill'. IE questioning does not have to be verbal form of question, but may manifest in a whole manner of ways. But if these questions disturb the prevailing author-ity then this can cause you trouble
I saw this very eye-opening video few days ago. A psychological experiment where a waiting room was set up with actors, and an unsuspecting person, a young woman. Every time this bell went off the other stood up, and eventually the one who didn't know what was going on did too. When they all one by one went except for the young woman even on her own she began standing every time the bell sounded. And then real people came in and they did too! it was hillarious and deeply sad at the same time
This is how the Christian myth works. It uses the old ploy of divide and control in a very deep way, making you fear nature, and your own body and nature, and others. THEN it has you unstable and can promise you a reward/solution IF you cling to their author-ity, 'heaven', and if you don't?----'hell', everlastingly. So all the fear is designed to have you stuck in it, not questioning (in the past the burnt people alive who questioned the 'faith'), but sacrificing your life--and your kids if you have them--to that absurd belief system.
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Re: Seriously questioning my religious views [Re: Zombi3]
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Re: Seriously questioning my religious views [Re: usulpsychonaut]
#23664184 - 09/21/16 06:02 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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OMFG what's with all this racism, misogyny, n shit. THAT is part OF the evil. the 'white race' bla bla bla. the 'Jews'
The only true thing been said last so many posts is that the pharma/shrink industry is corrupt
Yes it is based on false myths which bleed out of false myths about race, and misogyny
Sometimes people BOTH get some truth but then carry on in ignorance nevertheless. A very sadly funny comment I read yesterday went like this: 'I am aware that propaganda is most effective when it is repeated over and over'
TRUE
but then this dimwit adds: 'that is what the conspiracy theorists did against the official info'
IE he has totally missed the point that it is the other way round!
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let us try and bring it round to including the OP: it is good to question. It is VITAL.
I have not gone into this whole Holocaust revisionist thing (though have read bits about it over the years) cause of lack of time to really study it
Asking questions must involve being aware of a bigger picture.
Take religion. it is handy to know there is no historical evidence a Jesus of Nazareth even existed 
Take the Holocaust subject. it is handy to know the PREVIOUSLY to the so-called '6 MILLION' count of supposed Holocaust deaths, Jews have used that claim in previous so-called holocausts
Now, just because it may very well not have been 6 million does NOT mean that Jews were not persecuted and murdered en mass in Nazi Germany etc
I have seen people who are Holocaust deniers start making out Hitler was a lovely person...? But it wasn't only Jews he was wanting to get rid of, but also the 'mentally ill' and disabled, and gay people etc.
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Re: Seriously questioning my religious views [Re: pineninja]
#23667786 - 09/22/16 11:32 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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pineninja said: Its one thing to ask questions it's another thing to make the answers up.
It is one thing criticizing what someone has said; it's another thing to put your money where your mouth is and explain the position you are defending?
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Re: Seriously questioning my religious views [Re: sprinkles]
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First, Jesus WAS born to a virgin. He was God in human flesh. and Jesus was perfect, he needed to come in untainted and untouched by sin.
First, you are a literalist. You believe absurd stories and want others to do too.
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Re: Seriously questioning my religious views [Re: Aiko Aiko]
#23670052 - 09/23/16 04:42 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Aiko Aiko said: Why is it absurd when talking about God? Are you a materialist?
what do you mean by the terms you use, by 'God', and 'materialism'?
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Re: Seriously questioning my religious views [Re: RJ Tubs 202] 1
#23670067 - 09/23/16 04:53 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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RJ Tubs 202 said: So many of the story themes in the Bible reflect the signs of the Zodiac.
Fish (Pisces), water/baptism (Aquarius), virgin (Virgo), and so on . . .
EXACTLY!!! So why cannot that be understood logically then?
Why then do people try and actually literally believe the stories that have been embellished from astronomical and astrological interpretations and made into mythology?
AND also at a shroomery forum--all about magic mushrooms-- be ignore-ant about the ancient interpretation of psychoactive mushrooms and how they fit into theor solar mythological interpretations of the sun, planets and star systems? For example psychoactive fungi personified as 'Christ descending and becoming flesh', etc.
They have the internet now. The swiftest huge global info source. There is no excuse not to be onto this.
But no they would sooner invest all their trust in some old Book from the past and read it literally...?
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Re: Seriously questioning my religious views [Re: Aiko Aiko]
#23670569 - 09/23/16 09:57 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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...i have a feeling it would be a waste of my effort to try and get through to you.
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Re: Seriously questioning my religious views [Re: zzripz] 1
#23670605 - 09/23/16 10:11 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I will however speak to whoever is interested in what I have to say: it is not usually understood by theist or atheist alike that the mythos that has controlled us nearly globally for millennia is solar mythology, and this mythology suppressed and subverted lunar based mythos which was central to Goddess mythology
See, the luminary, the moon, symbolized the dynamic play of darkness and light, and how light is rather birthed from darkness rather than the other way round. IE you have the Dark Moon and then happens the slither of light of the New Moon which then waxes and then wanes and this cyclic process was the metaphor for nature, including our own natures
But when solar mythos is brought about and imposed on everyone, and the very star systems etc are interpreted in a solar-dominant way is when things become dualistic, because it can be seen that with the sun it is light which predominates. So you thus get the stories about how the 'good pure light/'God' will banish the 'bad impure darkness/'Satan/Devil'. There we have the duality of light and dark. And this myth goes deep into our psyche which is what is intended for it to do. The toxic mythmakers who pushed these concepts are a warrior mindset who are all about divide and control, because their very mode of operation is dualistic! Divide light from dark and have one the superior and the other inferior, etc etc etc
Of course there are different interpretations of the solar mythos also. On one side you have the 'God-ists' who believe in the 'all good pure light spirit/God' and on the other side the Luciferians/Satanists who believe the 'light' is Lucifer who came to help them--the ones who are initiated in this mythos--become 'gods'.
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