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Re: Seriously questioning my religious views [Re: Zombi3]
    #23620401 - 09/06/16 11:49 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

dont second guess yourself.  your first instinct is right. 


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Re: Seriously questioning my religious views [Re: sprinkles] * 3
    #23634149 - 09/10/16 10:12 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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drugs seperate your connection to the divine.  that is why muslims and other religions do not drink.  Or use.


Anyway I think that once you've accepted Jesus as Gods gift and payment for your sin debt you're gonna be alright.  Everyone questions things, it's human.  Just like every human being has thought about suicide at some point, it's normal.  If you were to stop using drugs I know you would re-establish your eternal connection with God and Christ.  It is the correct way, and there is nothing that is more important in this life.




The word "drug" is pejorative. Sacred Substances are considered to be medicines among those who utilize their assistance in sacramental fashion. Drugs in your biblical meaning are the Greek word pharmakeia, but this word refers to sorcery, low magick, thaumaturgy, which was inseparable from the substances that sorcery relied upon. For the most part, the plants utilized by sorcery create narcosis, delirium, or hallucinations such as those in the Solanaceae family, the Nightshades, Atropa belladona, Mandragora, Datura stramonium. The alkaloids in these plants are referred to as "nightmare alkaloids" and create true hallucinations, not the beautiful pseudo-visions of indole entheogens (which, incidentally means God-generated-within).

So, whereas certain substances do create a veritable Hell populated by montrosities, deformities, and abject horror, other substances deemed sacred by those of us with spiritual formation, both within and without a Christian idiom, can bring one to various degrees of communion if not union with divinity. The Initiation of Entheogenic Experience was an institution at Eleusis in Greece for over a millennia until fascists in the form of so-called Christians suppressed the practice. But from time to time throughout history, the truth of this Initiation has arisen in Christianity, fro ancient times to medieval times (see the mystic Jacob Boehme's art below from 400 years ago which illustrates the Christian trinity along mycological lines). The Christian Native American Church uses Peyote as a Christian sacrament with its own Christian mythology attached, the "Little Ones" or Psilocybe mexicana mushroom has been used in a context of healing rather than as a sacrament in a Christian context, the Santo Daime Church utilizes Ayahuasca in a syncretistic idiom, which like the Native American Church varies in its Christian content.

So, your ignorance of mysticism and high magick AKA theurgy/transcendental magick (of which Catholic Transubstantiation is a form), is revealed by your erroneous first statement. "Drugs" in the non-pejorative sense of medicines, not of lowly sorceries, DO INDEED facilitate connection with the divine. This has been demonstrated in those of us who over a period of several decades of life have had our entire point and purpose of life reoriented by the employment of Sacred Substances. Personal ethics have expanded to more and more universal proportion, including all people (and their faiths) and not only that but to animal rights as well. Beyond that, universal ethics need expand to the very planet Earth which is our very Mother, which sounds very 'native,' and is morally superior to the political-Christian corruption of the word dominion to mean domination, and thence exploitation, like the character of a despicable 'pastor' of a mega-church who lives in obscene opulence. IMO your preaching is biased to a particular mentality that embodies a mere husk of living Christianity, an artifact of a lived experience that so desperately clings to an old agenda that it uses falsehoods (i.e., that "drugs" separate one from divinity) to control others as orthodox Christianity has perpetrated for too long.

Learn something new about something rather old. That would include the use of Entheogens, but also you might learn that the vicarious sacrifice theology of mainstream Christianity is not the ONLY theology, and the one that you're pushing is not readily assimilable as we leave the Picean Age (The Fish, the original astrotheological symbol of the Christian era) and move into the Age of Aquarius. The Age of Aries (the Ram) characterized the patriarchal Abrahamic faith, Jesus characterizes the Picean Age, and you need to realize that humanity is entering a new manifestation of the Logos. A mythic 1st century Judean itinerant preacher is a vehicle, but the Truth requires Realization - being made Real in the individual. This is the biblical age of the Holy Spirit to be Realized within one's being, not put on a pedestal and worshipped without any Real change to one's corrupt "natural man." Look at the world. Look at history. Wake Up.

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Re: Seriously questioning my religious views [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23662086 - 09/20/16 03:08 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Well I was immunized but I did not get 20 shot's by 2 years of age or 60 by the age of 18. It only takes 1 shot to cause Autism, I could be borderline.



I am not an American and I don't care, I didn't ask for this election to be a part of my life. This shitty News Paper comes to my house every day and it shits on Trump and Trumps Hillary every day.  It is clear that the entire establishment opposes Trump in the media circus. Talk about black and white.

Will Trump really put a stop to injecting filth into babies? That would be real spiritual.


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Re: Seriously questioning my religious views [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #23664208 - 09/21/16 06:26 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

No, the G.O.D. feeds on the souls of Christians and Muslims, Jews were genetically designed to serve it. It has no power over me as I stand with Satan.

The Holocaust is impossible. Every detail is scientifically/logically unsound.



The lie never debunks the revision, it is enforced by The Truth Is No Defence rulings and the heresy laws. This is still ON TOPIC as The Holocaust is yet another false Jewish religion. A statement is made that Holocaust revision is Anti-Semi-tism and that is the extent of the argument. All the source material is total bunk. Millions of human bodies simply don't burn in pits and disappear without a trace using women and children as kindling. As for eyewitnesses this not an isolated case.

There is endless evidence of fucked up establishment concepts and indoctrination that exist and Judaism is the source of it all. Its occult. The effect of Jewish magicians fanatically putting curses on gentiles. Check the bible, genocide is a Jewish trade. May your grin turn to blood kind of stuff.

Personally, I don't do black magic.


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Re: Seriously questioning my religious views [Re: sprinkles]
    #23667157 - 09/22/16 04:36 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

right.

Ok. but you realize that the proto-Jewish cults, pagans, they worshipped Baal, and other gods, right? they were pantheistic.

you realize that Yahweh was just a name given to a particular god, which they proclaimed the Most High (El), and the name YHWH was given because sit amounted to a short-forming of the phrase "Shasu of YHW" from Egyptian tablet inscriptions? an approximate meaning derived is "wind blows". you know why that is? because Yahvh is an aniconic re-labelling of an old Sumerian God (which the Egyptian "Walking People of Yah" is derived from) Enlil, the very same "Storm-God" who controls the Shroomery under the guise of an Administrator named Ythan. see the connections?

true story.



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Re: Seriously questioning my religious views [Re: sprinkles]
    #23669931 - 09/23/16 01:33 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I believe Jesus is God




Sun gods are the most common deity in all of human history.

Christ was a sun god. It's why Jesus often is shown with a halo or a sun burst.

Christ, the light of the world. Who rose from the darkness.



God said, "Let light shine out of darkness" (2 Corinthians 4:6)

Christ's birthday, December 25th is based in ancient astrology.


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Re: Seriously questioning my religious views [Re: RJ Tubs 202] * 1
    #23669936 - 09/23/16 01:39 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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RJ Tubs 202 said:
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sprinkles said:

I believe Jesus is God




Sun gods are the most common deity in all of human history.

Christ was a sun god. It's why Jesus often is shown with a halo or a sun burst.

Christ, the light of the world. Who rose from the darkness.



God said, "Let light shine out of darkness" (2 Corinthians 4:6)

Christ's birthday, December 25th is based in ancient astrology.




And the sun rises and sets (dies and res-erects).


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Re: Seriously questioning my religious views [Re: RJ Tubs 202] * 1
    #23692865 - 09/30/16 02:08 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

The sun reaches it's lowest point at the winter (December) solstice on about 21st December. At this time the Sun is at RA = 23.5 degrees. Northern hemisphere observers receive the minimum amount of sunlight at this time as the Sun is lowest in the sky at noon and is above the horizon for the shortest time.



In other words it's the celebration of the sun resurrecting from being at it's lowest point in the sky in the year. Supposedly, back in the day, people use to trip out because they worshiped the sun as their god that gives them crops and such.

Egyptians worshiped the sun god RA (right ascension)



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