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Grain = Yield?
    #23618100 - 09/06/16 12:46 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I'm trying to figure out how much grain usually yields how much mushrooms by weight. Has anyone recorded results? Like, if I use 4Q of grain vs 2Q, will I get double the mushrooms, or no? I do monotubs.


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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: Stargate]
    #23618124 - 09/06/16 12:52 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Aim for 1-2 oz dry from one "mycology" quart of spawn. When using 1:1-1:4 spawn to sub ratios


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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23618167 - 09/06/16 01:04 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

That's awesome.

A mycology quart. That clears up a lot of confusion I had aswell.

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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23618172 - 09/06/16 01:05 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

You know like 2/3-3/4 full for shaking room


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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23618631 - 09/06/16 03:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

So basically youre trying to measure your BE.  Or Biological Efficiency.  How much weight of substrate used in comparison to the weight of mushrooms you get.  Get the same weight in mushrooms as your sub, that's considered 100% biological efficiency. 

I think honestly the key here is surface area.  The more surface area there is, the better chance that area is going to reproduce mushrooms.  The amount of spawn you use will definitely be the determining factor of how many flushes occur, but the energy used by breaking down the nutrients in the grain are governed and downright restricted by how much surface area is exposed to fresh air and light.


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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: Mushierage]
    #23618685 - 09/06/16 03:38 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Well, I use 66Q monotubs with a 4" sub.

My average yield per tub in the past, was 8 oz dry, over 2 flushes.

Should I aim for 5 mycology quarts per tub?

Will I have higher BE, if I use more spawn?


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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: Stargate]
    #23618702 - 09/06/16 03:43 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Well, I use 66Q monotubs with a 4" sub.

My average yield per tub in the past, was 8 oz dry, over 2 flushes.

Should I aim for 5 mycology quarts per tub?

Will I have higher BE, if I use more spawn?






How much spawn did you have for this?


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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: Stargate]
    #23618708 - 09/06/16 03:44 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Tell bottle growers how important surface area is. Many bottle grows get as much as 200% BE. I haven't tried them myself, but try looking up muda's bottle tek or pasty's straw tek and you'll see how little surface area can matter.


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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: dankington]
    #23618723 - 09/06/16 03:50 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Tell bottle growers how important surface area is. Many bottle grows get as much as 200% BE. I haven't tried them myself, but try looking up muda's bottle tek or pasty's straw tek and you'll see how little surface area can matter.



They achieve this BE over a series of flushes dank.  Same with cakes, achieved over a series of several flushes. 


But we aren't talking about cake and bottles. We're talking about bulk substrates. Surface area is important when you're talking about the amount of mushrooms per flush.  The energy in the grain gets used up faster because of the increased surface area and therefore, makes more mush mush.


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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: Mushierage] * 1
    #23618747 - 09/06/16 03:57 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

No, they get pretty fuckin amazing 1st flushes. surface area isnt everything.

to answer OP; if you want maximum return on each qt jar of grain you should do several tubs with lower ratios.
you'll get more return from 2 tubs with 2qts spawn in each than 1 tub with all 4 jars in.

5mycoqt's is perfect for a 66qt tub and1brick coir 2qts verm (damions bucket tek)


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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: spacechildo]
    #23618766 - 09/06/16 04:02 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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you'll get more return from 2 tubs with 2qts spawn in each than 1 tub with all 4 jars in.





*cough* Increased surface area by a factor of 2 *cough*


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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: spacechildo]
    #23618786 - 09/06/16 04:07 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Well, I use 66Q monotubs with a 4" sub.

My average yield per tub in the past, was 8 oz dry, over 2 flushes.

Should I aim for 5 mycology quarts per tub?

Will I have higher BE, if I use more spawn?
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Well, I use 66Q monotubs with a 4" sub.

My average yield per tub in the past, was 8 oz dry, over 2 flushes.

Should I aim for 5 mycology quarts per tub?

Will I have higher BE, if I use more spawn?






How much spawn did you have for this?



I don't remember exactly, but I want to say 5-6Q.


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to answer OP; if you want maximum return on each qt jar of grain you should do several tubs with lower ratios.
you'll get more return from 2 tubs with 2qts spawn in each than 1 tub with all 4 jars in.

5mycoqt's is perfect for a 66qt tub and1brick coir 2qts verm (damions bucket tek)



Yeah, I have large blocks of coir that I take chips off of. Verm, I found that Lowes will sell for 50% off if the bag is damaged. I always find damaged bags, usually full. :smile:

Thank you for your more direct answer. Its good to know that 2 tubs of 2Q is better than 1 tub of 4Q. Do you have any idea what the yield difference may be between a 2Q and a 4Q?


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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: Mushierage]
    #23618792 - 09/06/16 04:08 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

*cough* still true even in a mini mono.


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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: Mushierage]
    #23618796 - 09/06/16 04:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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you'll get more return from 2 tubs with 2qts spawn in each than 1 tub with all 4 jars in.





*cough* Increased surface area by a factor of 2 *cough*




lol, you have 2 tubs instead of 1:lol:

checkout pastywhytes posts on bottles and BE if you wanna learn something or keep guessing if that's what you prefer :super:


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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: Stargate]
    #23618803 - 09/06/16 04:12 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

You'll have twice as many mushrooms twice as fast. 

You might have less flushes, but you will have more per flush since you've essentially increased your surface area by a factor of two.

Also, it gives contaminates less time to take hold of your sub.


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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: spacechildo]
    #23618809 - 09/06/16 04:14 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

stargate; no,you most likely wont get higher BE by adding grains since grains weigh so much more than the sub does dry.

BE isnt directly translated into yield. I can do 1 grow and get 200% BE, and you do 1 grow and get 50% BE, but you can stillhave more yield than me.
you just used more dry substrate and grains pr wet mushroom output than I did.

BE = biological efficiency, not "return on qt jars in tubs" if you understand?


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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: Mushierage]
    #23618811 - 09/06/16 04:16 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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You'll have twice as many mushrooms twice as fast. 

You might have less flushes, but you will have more per flush since you've essentially increased your surface area by a factor of two.

Also, it gives contaminates less time to take hold of your sub.




You will get more output if you fill a 66qt tub with bottles instead of sub like a normalmonotub even tho the bottles has LESS surface area than the whole sub would.

Just get experienced but dont guess on shit you dont know while you get there.


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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: spacechildo]
    #23618827 - 09/06/16 04:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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you'll get more return from 2 tubs with 2qts spawn in each than 1 tub with all 4 jars in.





*cough* Increased surface area by a factor of 2 *cough*




lol, you have 2 tubs instead of 1:lol:

checkout pastywhytes posts on bottles and BE if you wanna learn something or keep guessing if that's what you prefer :super:




Again, we aren't talking about bottles or cakes.  And I don't do bottles or cakes, nor do I want to.  I do bulk subs for a good reason. I don't need your confirmation to know what I'm saying has validity.

It isn't a guess, dude.  It's mathematics.  Also, stop being a dick to me for no God damned  reason.  Really don't need your condescending responses, they aren't necessary, nor are they welcome.


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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: Mushierage]
    #23618833 - 09/06/16 04:23 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

... Surface area is really not a factor in BE bro.  I'd go as far as to say it's one of the least important factors.  The bottle grows are a really great example of that, not sure why you'd want to dismiss them.  You and space seem to be having these issues repeatedly but, dude's right. :shrug:


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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: Inocuole]
    #23618836 - 09/06/16 04:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

here's some of pastys bottles that he posted, tell them how much surface area matters :lol:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23614615#23614615


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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: Inocuole]
    #23618837 - 09/06/16 04:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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... Surface area is really not a factor in BE bro.  I'd go as far as to say it's one of the least important factors.




In regard to BE no, it isn't.  I agree with you there. 

But in regard to the amount of fruit you get in a given time, I believe it does make a difference.  I never once said doubling surface area will increase BE.  But it will decrease the time it take to get your fruits, by essentially reducing flushes and increasing yield per flush.


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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: Mushierage]
    #23618839 - 09/06/16 04:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

:shrug:

Let go.  Breathe.  It's alright.

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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: Mushierage]
    #23618845 - 09/06/16 04:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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checkout pastywhytes posts on bottles and BE if you wanna learn something or keep guessing if that's what you prefer :super:




I don't do bottles or cakes, nor do I want to. 

It isn't a guess, dude.  It's mathematics.  Also, stop being a dick to me for no God damned  reason.




if you havent tried growing in bottles but tried to calculate your way to what mushrooms want and cant fathom why I comment on it when its wrong I just dont know what to say :shrug:

its the no 1 reason why so many engineers etc fails at this, they try to build space stations and make computer programs based off what they think mushies wants.. it just doesnt work that way.


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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: Inocuole]
    #23618848 - 09/06/16 04:31 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Let go.  Breathe.  It's alright.

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Duly noted.  Thanks.


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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: Mushierage]
    #23618864 - 09/06/16 04:35 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: spore-ty]
    #23618878 - 09/06/16 04:38 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Is there an optimal ratio for getting the most amount of mushrooms, relative to spawn?


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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: Stargate]
    #23618905 - 09/06/16 04:46 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

impossible to tell, the best thing you can do for MAX return is having clean spawn. so start on agar.
then you can use a more shallow sub, 2-3", and a mini mono 20-30 qt. start with a 1:2 or 1:3 ratio, you just gotta try it and switch it up and see what you like best.

But a thicker sub would be easier to deal with, it'd have more water stored able to evaporate without drying out.

but when you start g2g you wont feel so attached to every qt jar anymore, you'll have tons and just start pouring them in, it do make for pretty flushes!


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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: spacechildo]
    #23618915 - 09/06/16 04:49 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I'd say the second most important factor in BE(behind genetics), moreso than surface area, the grain used, or anything else, is the conditions on the substrate surface.  Good conditions will make any substrate dish out the mushrooms it's got under it's belt.  This is why bottles do so well, the improved microclimate is definitely a factor.  The small surface area could be interpreted as less than optimal, but due to active transport all that grain/sub down there still acts as a reservoir no matter where the mushrooms are growing from.  In that sense they're even less maintenance than a bulk sub.

Don't get me wrong I mostly do tubs and whatnot, but I do it that way because that's how I like doing it, not necessarily because it's the hands-down most efficient way.


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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: Inocuole]
    #23618935 - 09/06/16 04:53 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, my process is spores > Agar > LI > spawn > slurry > many spawn jars/bags > slurry > substrate.

I find that its the fastest way for me to colonize large amounts, but even still, if I could get more mushrooms for my spawn, I would happily do so.


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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: Stargate]
    #23618947 - 09/06/16 04:56 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

find a good culture and maybe skip many of those needless contam vectors?

and as inoc said, all these simple things are what matters, good conditions,clean spawn,field capasity substrate.
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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: spacechildo]
    #23618982 - 09/06/16 05:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I've got good conditions ,clean spawn, and field capacity substrate down well. No problems with those.

I really don't see my system as too bad. After the spores go to agar, I get a clean culture, and I make agar culture slants. From there, I don't need the spores anymore. My setup has improved a lot as well. I use a 2'x4' laminar flow hood, I've got a closed loop glove box that I use as a SAB when I need to, I'm good at sterile procedure, and my contam rate really isn't all that bad. Its quite low.

I'm just trying to perfect my ratio, if possible.


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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: spacechildo]
    #23618991 - 09/06/16 05:14 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I've always used the bare minimum, like 4 or 5 mycological pints, but I've realized it's a bad idea and most likely contributes to my shitty yields.  This next run I'm using 5 mycological quarts per mono and I expect a much better yield.  Excluding all other factors, that is. 

From what I've read 5 or 6 quarts is normally a good ratio using damion 50/50's tek, but I'm sure there's a point of diminishing return, like 8 or so.  Who knows?


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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: Kenetic]
    #23619015 - 09/06/16 05:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I've always used the bare minimum, like 4 or 5 mycological pints, but I've realized it's a bad idea and most likely contributes to my shitty yields.  This next run I'm using 5 mycological quarts per mono and I expect a much better yield.  Excluding all other factors, that is. 

From what I've read 5 or 6 quarts is normally a good ratio using damion 50/50's tek, but I'm sure there's a point of diminishing return, like 8 or so.  Who knows?



I found my notes. Thats actually how much I used, and the tek I used on the grow from my signature. Those ones went 0.5 lb dry per tub.


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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: Kenetic]
    #23619021 - 09/06/16 05:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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From what I've read 5 or 6 quarts is normally a good ratio using damion 50/50's damion5050's tek,




There ya go.  I will give you some points for not saying "damion's 50/50 tek" though.


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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: Stargate]
    #23619026 - 09/06/16 05:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

which much?  former or latter

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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: Inocuole]
    #23619029 - 09/06/16 05:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I'd say the second most important factor in BE(behind genetics), moreso than surface area, the grain used, or anything else, is the conditions on the substrate surface.  Good conditions will make any substrate dish out the mushrooms it's got under it's belt.  This is why bottles do so well, the improved microclimate is definitely a factor.  The small surface area could be interpreted as less than optimal, but due to active transport all that grain/sub down there still acts as a reservoir no matter where the mushrooms are growing from.  In that sense they're even less maintenance than a bulk sub.

Don't get me wrong I mostly do tubs and whatnot, but I do it that way because that's how I like doing it, not necessarily because it's the hands-down most efficient way.



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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: cronicr]
    #23619035 - 09/06/16 05:28 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Actually, clean spawn ties with genetics for 1st, but microclimate is still #2, I'd say.

Bad genetics can fuck up clean spawn and dirty spawn can fuck up good genetics in equal shares.


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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: Inocuole]
    #23619043 - 09/06/16 05:31 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I'm in agreement with space and inoc here...surface area may get ya more fruits faster but that's not the point.


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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: cronicr]
    #23619057 - 09/06/16 05:36 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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surface area may get ya more fruits faster but that's not the point.




Does it though?

I'd think technically bottle subs would be faster since there's no spawning.  And if the BE is just as good, where's this saved time?  I do spawn to bottles sometimes so yeah in my case it would probably take a bit longer, but, I don't think that's standard.


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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: Inocuole]
    #23619063 - 09/06/16 05:37 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I mean to say a tub will be spent in a couple flushes...a bottle or cake might not.


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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: cronicr]
    #23619065 - 09/06/16 05:38 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

... Am I supposed to be keeping my bottles past the first flush?  Whoops..  I always rip em out like a ham fisted gorilla since there's definitely no snipping at the base without like.. candle scissors or whatever.


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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: Inocuole]
    #23619072 - 09/06/16 05:40 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Idk that's up to you:lol: cakes I keep for three...some bottles I can kill in two as they consist of grain and bulk ....vtek subs can go a long fucking time.


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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: cronicr]
    #23619079 - 09/06/16 05:43 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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    #23619082 - 09/06/16 05:44 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: Inocuole]
    #23619083 - 09/06/16 05:44 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

The arguement of BE vs yield is really a moot point to me.

To the OP:

What are you actually aiming for here?  Are you trying to increase your yields, or are you trying increase your BE? 

You are using a bulk substrate, so if I had to guess, it'd be yields.  If you're going for Pure BE pound for pound, then yeah, go to the bottle method or cake method and be done with it.  Its obvious that increases your BE.

But like me and many others that do bulk, I'm not sure that you actually care about percentage of weight compared to your substrate (efficiency) and you want a nice yield instead.  (Lots and lots of flushes at once)

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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: Mushierage]
    #23619092 - 09/06/16 05:47 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

When you say yields, I assume you mean "yield per amount of effort"?


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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: Mushierage]
    #23619094 - 09/06/16 05:48 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Simple answer....want more yield per tub?add more spawn...
Want more yield per qt....add more bulk.


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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: Inocuole]
    #23619096 - 09/06/16 05:48 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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When you say yields, I assume you mean "yield per amount of effort"?




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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: cronicr]
    #23619103 - 09/06/16 05:51 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Simple answer....want more yield per tub?add more spawn...
Want more yield per qt....add more bulk.




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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: Mushierage]
    #23619129 - 09/06/16 05:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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To the OP:

What are you actually aiming for here?  Are you trying to increase your yields, or are you trying increase your BE? 

You are using a bulk substrate, so if I had to guess, it'd be yields.  If you're going for Pure BE pound for pound, then yeah, go to the bottle method or cake method and be done with it.  Its obvious that increases your BE.

But like me and many others that do bulk, I'm not sure that you actually care about percentage of weight compared to your substrate (efficiency) and you want a nice yield instead.  (Lots and lots of flushes at once)

Yes?



What I'm aiming for, is to get as much mushroom for my spawn as I can. Spawn takes 5 days to colonize. Making sub takes 1 day or less. I don't want sparse tubs though. I would like at least 75% of the tub to be covered with mushrooms. In my past grows, I've always had thick canopies. Typically, I have to pick 4-6 layers down of caps. I mix my grain spawn with the sub very evenly, as I find that mixing less gives bigger shrooms, but mixing the crap out of it gives a dumpsterduck of small ones. Easier to store.


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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: Stargate]
    #23619151 - 09/06/16 06:06 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

For tubs I'd suggest keeping it simple and sticking to the typical 1:2 but up to 1:4 is perfectly fine... As space said you get more with two tubs at 1:4 and this is from more food more water.


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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: spacechildo]
    #23619154 - 09/06/16 06:07 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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No, they get pretty fuckin amazing 1st flushes. surface area isnt everything.

to answer OP; if you want maximum return on each qt jar of grain you should do several tubs with lower ratios.
you'll get more return from 2 tubs with 2qts spawn in each than 1 tub with all 4 jars in.

5mycoqt's is perfect for a 66qt tub and1brick coir 2qts verm (damions bucket tek)




it just dosent fucking work for me man
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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: blackdust]
    #23619163 - 09/06/16 06:09 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Don't mind him....for reals.


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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: cronicr]
    #23619185 - 09/06/16 06:16 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

cron just enjoys seeing 69 year old shrooms



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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: blackdust]
    #23619189 - 09/06/16 06:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

The shroom posing with the bottle of muscle milk has me cracking the fuck up.


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    #23619191 - 09/06/16 06:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: Mushierage]
    #23619267 - 09/06/16 06:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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The shroom posing with the bottle of muscle milk has me cracking the fuck up.



Shame you weren't around when he used to post them alongside bottles of lube and shit.


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    #23619271 - 09/06/16 06:44 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Ten quarts later and he shows you one mushroom...


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    #23619275 - 09/06/16 06:46 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, but I did get to see mushrooms growing from the boobs of a half naked gay rabbit. 

That seriously disturbed the fuck out of me.


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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: Mushierage]
    #23619282 - 09/06/16 06:49 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

That picture is the best..  It has spore prints for eyes..


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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: Mushierage]
    #23620881 - 09/07/16 06:15 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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When you say yields, I assume you mean "yield per amount of effort"?




Correct.




So a relevant efficiency rating, although more subjective, would be the CE (Cultivator Efficiency) : number of grams per hour of work.

When comparing grows made with the same tek (for example, aiming for genetic comparisons), BE and yields should be equivalent metrics. BE is better for comparing different teks, but since substrate are relatively cheap, and teks differs in time investment, CE is more relevant.

One could measure the work efforts in dollars (time is money, right ?) and add that to the price all the raw materials. But hey, it's a hobby...


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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: Piezo]
    #23620888 - 09/07/16 06:20 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

If BE was a good indicator for which TEK we should choose we would all be doing PF-tek..


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