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Inocuole
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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: cronicr]
#23619065 - 09/06/16 05:38 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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... Am I supposed to be keeping my bottles past the first flush? Whoops.. I always rip em out like a ham fisted gorilla since there's definitely no snipping at the base without like.. candle scissors or whatever.
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cronicr



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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: Inocuole]
#23619072 - 09/06/16 05:40 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Idk that's up to you cakes I keep for three...some bottles I can kill in two as they consist of grain and bulk ....vtek subs can go a long fucking time.
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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: cronicr]
#23619079 - 09/06/16 05:43 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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the v is where its at
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cronicr



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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: Kenetic]
#23619082 - 09/06/16 05:44 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mushierage
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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: Inocuole]
#23619083 - 09/06/16 05:44 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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The arguement of BE vs yield is really a moot point to me.
To the OP:
What are you actually aiming for here? Are you trying to increase your yields, or are you trying increase your BE?
You are using a bulk substrate, so if I had to guess, it'd be yields. If you're going for Pure BE pound for pound, then yeah, go to the bottle method or cake method and be done with it. Its obvious that increases your BE.
But like me and many others that do bulk, I'm not sure that you actually care about percentage of weight compared to your substrate (efficiency) and you want a nice yield instead. (Lots and lots of flushes at once)
Yes?
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Inocuole
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When you say yields, I assume you mean "yield per amount of effort"?
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cronicr



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Simple answer....want more yield per tub?add more spawn... Want more yield per qt....add more bulk.
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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: Inocuole]
#23619096 - 09/06/16 05:48 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
Inocuole said: When you say yields, I assume you mean "yield per amount of effort"?
Correct.
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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: cronicr]
#23619103 - 09/06/16 05:51 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
cronicr said: Simple answer....want more yield per tub?add more spawn... Want more yield per qt....add more bulk.
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Stargate
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Quote:
Mushierage said: To the OP:
What are you actually aiming for here? Are you trying to increase your yields, or are you trying increase your BE?
You are using a bulk substrate, so if I had to guess, it'd be yields. If you're going for Pure BE pound for pound, then yeah, go to the bottle method or cake method and be done with it. Its obvious that increases your BE.
But like me and many others that do bulk, I'm not sure that you actually care about percentage of weight compared to your substrate (efficiency) and you want a nice yield instead. (Lots and lots of flushes at once)
Yes?
What I'm aiming for, is to get as much mushroom for my spawn as I can. Spawn takes 5 days to colonize. Making sub takes 1 day or less. I don't want sparse tubs though. I would like at least 75% of the tub to be covered with mushrooms. In my past grows, I've always had thick canopies. Typically, I have to pick 4-6 layers down of caps. I mix my grain spawn with the sub very evenly, as I find that mixing less gives bigger shrooms, but mixing the crap out of it gives a dumpsterduck of small ones. Easier to store.
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cronicr



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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: Stargate]
#23619151 - 09/06/16 06:06 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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For tubs I'd suggest keeping it simple and sticking to the typical 1:2 but up to 1:4 is perfectly fine... As space said you get more with two tubs at 1:4 and this is from more food more water.
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blackdust

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spacechildo said: No, they get pretty fuckin amazing 1st flushes. surface area isnt everything.
to answer OP; if you want maximum return on each qt jar of grain you should do several tubs with lower ratios. you'll get more return from 2 tubs with 2qts spawn in each than 1 tub with all 4 jars in.
5mycoqt's is perfect for a 66qt tub and1brick coir 2qts verm (damions bucket tek)
it just dosent fucking work for me man i stick to the 10qt spawn per tub
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cronicr



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Don't mind him....for reals.
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blackdust

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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: cronicr]
#23619185 - 09/06/16 06:16 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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cron just enjoys seeing 69 year old shrooms
   
top of that shroom looks like a pussy
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Mushierage
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The shroom posing with the bottle of muscle milk has me cracking the fuck up.
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cronicr



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Inocuole
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Mushierage said: The shroom posing with the bottle of muscle milk has me cracking the fuck up.
Shame you weren't around when he used to post them alongside bottles of lube and shit.
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cronicr



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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: Inocuole] 1
#23619271 - 09/06/16 06:44 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ten quarts later and he shows you one mushroom...
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Mushierage
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Re: Grain = Yield? [Re: Inocuole]
#23619275 - 09/06/16 06:46 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah, but I did get to see mushrooms growing from the boobs of a half naked gay rabbit.
That seriously disturbed the fuck out of me.
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Inocuole
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That picture is the best.. It has spore prints for eyes..
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