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partyboy420247
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Monotub overlay help
#23617466 - 09/06/16 08:50 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hello. I have a monotub that has puffy mycelium all over the surface of the substrate. Four decent sized mushrooms have popped up through tiny gaps that the mycelium didn't completely colonize, but only in one corner of the tub. I also saw a small mushroom emerging from the side of my tub, so I decided to pick it, mainly because it wasn't in a very good place. Some of the substrate came up with it, and the layer of casing was visible after I did this. On this spot that was no longer covered by mycelium, two more mushrooms emerged soon after, so I did some research. I read in a book that I can sterilize a fork and scrape up the top layer to help the substrate recover and grow mushrooms if the surface of the substrate is completely covered with mycelium. So, my question is, should I get a fork and rake up the substrate, or wait and possibly get nothing?
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I wouldn't worry too much. If it is cubensis you are growing it won't care too much. I dumped mine in the dirty compost bin and it kept producing more!
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Cubensis doesn't get overlay, raking or using a fork is a terrible idea. The resource you found that info from is useless
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Re: Monotub overlay help [Re: bodhisatta]
#23617512 - 09/06/16 09:12 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Trusted Cultivator said: Cubensis doesn't get overlay, raking or using a fork is a terrible idea. The resource you found that info from is useless
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partyboy420247
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Re: Monotub overlay help [Re: bodhisatta]
#23617525 - 09/06/16 09:17 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I read that part about fixing overlay in the book "Psilocybin Mushroom Handbook: Easy Indoor and Outdoor Cultivation". That's the only time I've heard of being able to fix overlay. I bought the "Let's Grow Mushrooms" videos and watched them, but I'm pretty sure that he didn't say anything about a situation like this. I'm worried because only one corner of my monotub is fruiting, and only a small amount of fruits at that. How long should I wait before I consider this run a failure? And why did the mushrooms start growing when I had a bare spot? Should I test out a small area to see if any mushrooms want to grow through the mycelium layer?
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There are several threads here with people who think they have overlay which they don't because cubensis dosen't get it, it's probably dry you got pics? https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21931053#21931053
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Cubensis don't even get overlay. Whatever you think you have is not overlay, and scraping the mycelium is never the way to fix anything regarding cubensis. Books can be very very wrong.
You probably just have a bacterial substrate and that's why they're not growing where you want. Without pics this is all guesswork though.
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Re: Monotub overlay help [Re: Inocuole]
#23617565 - 09/06/16 09:33 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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My apologies. I meant to post a picture with my first post. Here's what I'm looking at. And yes, I did notice those yellow splotches. I was told that the mycelium are fighting off bacteria.

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Too wet, loosen the poly to give more fae, the evaporation should help it to pin, the beads of moisture should be a bit smaller. Should be like a fine mist covering the surface, those are more like droplets. If it was me I would remove the top poly completely for a while until some of that evaporates, maybe even crack the lid a bit but keep an eye on it and don't let it get completely dry.
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Re: Monotub overlay help [Re: NDStepp84]
#23617592 - 09/06/16 09:43 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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There's something else that I didn't mention. I have cling wrap over my bin because it's opaque and that's how I get light in there. Would it screw stuff up if I left it uncovered completely? Like, would it be easily contaminated in open air at this point? I thought that I was keeping the contaminants at bay with the cling wrap, but then the yellow splotches showed up. Maybe I'm just making things worse with the cling wrap.
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A fully colonized sub is contamination resistant, it is more likely to contaminate closed completely off and wet than with fresh air. People do open air grows all the time, you just have to keep up proper surface conditions.
Does that tote have any holes with poly or closed off completely?
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Re: Monotub overlay help [Re: NDStepp84]
#23617620 - 09/06/16 09:55 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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My bin has 4 1" holes, filled with Poly-Fil. So I need to take the cling wrap off? It won't get contaminated in the open air? I'm sorry for all the questions, I'm just trying to understand.
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4 holes on the bottom near the substrate surface, 2 holes on top is a typical mono setup. Don't take off the saran wrap if it's your lid. Just stuff the holes with poly. Bottom tight, top is loose.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17332777/fpart/1/vc/1
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My 4 holes are more near to the top. The holes are stuffed with Poly-Fil. That's all the ventilation I have. Should I remove some of the Poly-Fil to allow more air in?
Here's a picture of one of the sides of the bin
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Lol you really didn't follow a tek did you? Lots don't. My first mono was like that. I ended up taping up the holes and redrilling new ones. You really should at least drill holes on the substrate level, and as for loosening the holes... Read the link I sent you?
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Re: Monotub overlay help [Re: Mad Season]
#23617672 - 09/06/16 10:15 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I bought this thing as a pre-made grow kit. People on here tried to tell me not to, but I did it anyway. Big mistake. I followed the directions, but this is as far as it's gotten me. So, I need to make more holes by the substrate layer? Is that the best solution?
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Yes its the best solution. Make sure they're stuffed tight with polyfil
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Re: Monotub overlay help [Re: Mad Season]
#23617722 - 09/06/16 10:34 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Okay. Thank you for your guidance. I've had people leading me in different directions, and it's almost caused me to screw this whole thing up. I noticed a small mushroom growing under a mushroom that's leaning over, so I took off the cling wrap to pick it so it didn't start to mold and ruin the big mushroom growing above it. I could feel the humid, stagnant air escaping from the bin. I'm pretty sure that it's not supposed to be like that. I'll get some more Poly-Fil from the store, cut the holes, stuff them, and then post a picture. Is it okay for me to leave off the cling wrap for a little while to let things dry out and have some FAE? I think it would help, but then again, I'm a noob who doesn't know what he's doing.
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I would just leave the cling wrap on.
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Re: Monotub overlay help [Re: Mad Season]
#23617735 - 09/06/16 10:43 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Will do. I'll just cut the holes and stuff them with Poly-Fil. Thanks for the help.
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fruiting chambers are only there to keep humidity just high enough to avoid cracked caps. otherwise you want as much air as possible to cycle through, ideally passive with just the use of holes and air currents since fans and forced air dry things out and then you have to use a humidifier then create a balancing act and that's just a waist of time in most cases. as your substrate evaporates since it's holding a bunch of water the humidity is 99% near the surface, a concentration gradient of humidity forms as water evaporates off the substrate. ideally if you made your substrate and monotub correctly you shouldn't have to do anything at all till harvest time as the moisture will be enough for humidity and fruits.
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Re: Monotub overlay help [Re: bodhisatta]
#23617773 - 09/06/16 10:58 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have my holes drawn. I plan on cutting 6 holes, two on each long side and one on each small side. They are roughly 1cm above the substrate. Is this okay? I will go to the store and get the Poly-Fil, and then cut the 6 holes unless someone tells me not to.
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partyboy420247
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Here's some pictures
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Those pictures showed up very poorly. There are holes drawn in Sharpie, but my camera wouldn't pick them up very well. Sorry about that. I'll post another picture when I put the Poly-Fil in the holes.
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There's an edit post button so you don't have to triple post
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Re: Monotub overlay help [Re: bodhisatta]
#23617812 - 09/06/16 11:11 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I apologize. I'm still pretty new here. I just wanted to explain the lame pictures.
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no problem, just pointing it out for next time.
the first three links in my signature. the first two go to the AMU and then the TNF then those both have a recommended TEK list find the monotub threads.
also the third link in my signature
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partyboy420247 said: I have my holes drawn. I plan on cutting 6 holes, two on each long side and one on each small side. They are roughly 1cm above the substrate. Is this okay? I will go to the store and get the Poly-Fil, and then cut the 6 holes unless someone tells me not to.
The short side holes should be near the top.
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Re: Monotub overlay help [Re: Oregonic]
#23617888 - 09/06/16 11:37 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't even think he should have side holes with 4 top holes. That's like 6 bottom and 4 top.. kinda overkill
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partyboy420247
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Should I put the extra two holes on the ends, or is it not recommended? I don't mind making them if it makes things better for the mushrooms. I can make them up higher, too
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partyboy420247 said: My apologies. I meant to post a picture with my first post. Here's what I'm looking at. And yes, I did notice those yellow splotches. I was told that the mycelium are fighting off bacteria.


That is an absolutely beautiful substrate surface ,the droplets are a tad big as mentioned but otherwise all looks great ,do what these guys are telling u and boost up ur evap rate and that tub will b full in no time. Youll b glad u didnt take the rake to it
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partyboy420247 said: Should I put the extra two holes on the ends, or is it not recommended? I don't mind making them if it makes things better for the mushrooms. I can make them up higher, too 
It's recommended to have 4 bottom and 2 top holes. What you're doing is 6 bottom and 4 top holes. That is overkill. Do 4 bottom holes and use your already drilled 4 top holes.
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Thanks a lot. I was actually going to do the raking thing this morning when I woke up if I didn't see pins all over. I'm glad that I took a second to ask the professionals. I'll put the fork away and make the holes in the bin instead. Y'all saved my ass big time. I took some of the micropore tape that was on the holes off so they could breathe better, too. I can tell that there's more evaporation going on by the way the condensation is dissipating around the holes. And I guess the plan now is 4 top holes and 4 bottom holes. I have a feeling that the mycelium will be much happier
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All done. The monotub surgery was successful. Here's the patient 
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You're gonna have to tape half those holes, with, like, non-breathable tape. That is walking the line of too many holes as is. Now granted, if open air grows can be done, so can that, but you may need to mist.
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Re: Monotub overlay help [Re: Inocuole]
#23619194 - 09/06/16 06:19 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I would rather just mist every so often if it doesn't make that much of a difference. I check the bin frequently, so I would rather my bin have the ability to get the extra fresh air. The more I think about it, the more that it makes sense that the lack of FAE is probably why I had any problems in the first place. I would probably have a carpet of mushrooms by now if I didn't maintain such a stagnant environment in the bin. Thank you for all the tips, I feel like I can make it through this grow successfully now
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I woke up this morning to see that I was wrong, and that you all are much smarter than I am. There are many more pins now, more than 10, and they just keep coming up. The extra holes were exactly what my monotub needed. So, the next time a noob comes here and asks why their grow kit bin isn't cutting it, tell them to get to cutting more holes in it. I'll say it again, coming here and asking the pros for knowledge saved my ass. I would have screwed up my project before I could even get a handful of mushrooms. Now I'll have at least one good flush of mushrooms, if not two or three. Thank you all for sharing your wisdom
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 Much better than putting 12 people on ignore. Having a tantrum. Calling us all elitists that need to eat mushrooms to lose our egos.
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partyboy420247 said: I woke up this morning to see that I was wrong, and that you all are much smarter than I am. There are many more pins now, more than 10, and they just keep coming up. The extra holes were exactly what my monotub needed. So, the next time a noob comes here and asks why their grow kit bin isn't cutting it, tell them to get to cutting more holes in it. I'll say it again, coming here and asking the pros for knowledge saved my ass. I would have screwed up my project before I could even get a handful of mushrooms. Now I'll have at least one good flush of mushrooms, if not two or three. Thank you all for sharing your wisdom 
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Y'all are only elite at growing mushrooms, not at being elitists. I probably wouldn't have been harvesting these beauties this morning if it wasn't for all the help. They doubled in size overnight. I can't wait to see what my bin does next 
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Congrats Those could have grown bigger but that's fine but let the rest go a while longer, the veil hadn't started stretching yet, probably could have let those go another 12-16hours or longer before the caps opened.
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partyboy420247 said: Y'all are only elite at growing mushrooms, not at being elitists. I probably wouldn't have been harvesting these beauties this morning if it wasn't for all the help. They doubled in size overnight. I can't wait to see what my bin does next 

Those three mushrooms there could have gotten about twice as big.. Like was said, the veil hadn't even begun to stretch, let alone break.
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partyboy420247 said: Y'all are only elite at growing mushrooms, not at being elitists. I probably wouldn't have been harvesting these beauties this morning if it wasn't for all the help. They doubled in size overnight. I can't wait to see what my bin does next 

You do realize those little buggers are not mature yet, right?
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Re: Monotub overlay help [Re: Inocuole]
#23621408 - 09/07/16 10:14 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Damn, I was wrong again. I thought that the veil did break. I think that I was looking at something else and thinking it was the veil. The little fringe under the cap made me think that the mushrooms wanted to drop spores. My mistake. I'll use these as test subjects for drying, so their premature picking wasn't done in vain. I have a food dehydrator with a heating element (Nesco American Harvest), but I don't know what temperature to put it at. It has a range of 95-160F. Also, I picked these things with no gloves. I feel kind of funny now
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Here's a good shot of different stages of the veil. Some are peeling off, some are not yet broken, one or two only look a little further along than the ones you posted. The largest mushroom there is definitely what I'd call ready for picking. The one on the left has a very stretched veil that has not broken yet.
The ones you picked, I would almost still call them pins.
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Re: Monotub overlay help [Re: Inocuole]
#23621439 - 09/07/16 10:23 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nice picture. Thank you. I was really trying to be hands-off when it came to letting the mushrooms grow and not picking them until they're completely ready, but I thought that those ones wanted to hurry up and drop spores. I know better now. I'll let them get to the point right before that happens, with a little bit of my minimal noob experience and a lot of help from the bad ass growers at The Shroomery
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Re: Monotub overlay help [Re: Inocuole]
#23621454 - 09/07/16 10:26 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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For mushies I intend on drying/eating/storing, I like to wait until that veil is stretched out almost to the breaking point, like the one on the far left you see in Inocuole's picture example, or maybe harvest right as the veil breaks.
If you were to wait a few hours after this point, the cap will flatten out and begin dumping spores all over your grow. Makes your mushrooms taste like shit, they are messy, and it can mess with pin formation on the next flush from what I understand.
The only reason I wait for the veil to break and the cap to flatten is if I'm going to be making spore prints with the caps.
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Even dropping a little bit of spores isn't gonna hurt anything, you're better off seeing just how long it takes so you have an idea of exactly how much time you have in the future. Let one or two drop a little bit of spores for reference. 
The one on the right here is where I really like the veil to be when I pick. Almost broken, stretched, and with a few holes in it, but not all the way detached.

Shit picture but I didn't know it needed re-taking until it was too late.
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Re: Monotub overlay help [Re: Inocuole]
#23621484 - 09/07/16 10:35 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Okay. I'll let a few of the mushrooms in the bin drop a little bit of spores before I harvest them, so I'll know exactly what to do in the future, and not have a bunch of immature fruits on my hands. Does anyone here use a food dehydrator to dry the fruits? Is there a temperature that's best to dry the mushrooms without destroying the active constituents of them? That's the last thing that I need to know now to be successful
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Every temperature that any dehydrator in the world can be set to, is okay for drying mushrooms. I'd venture to say everyone here that's been helping uses a dehydrator to dry.
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Nice. I didn't want to make another rookie mistake by setting them to 160F and messing up the mushrooms. Thanks for helping a noob get to this point, I'll be sure to share all of my new-found knowledge with noobs like me, because everyone has to start somewhere
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160F is perfect. I do 150F for only one reason, because that 10 degree difference makes the room WAY hotter for some reason. It's a pretty small room and I have grows going in there so I don't want it being hot as fuck in there for 12 hours out of a day. With 150F it still gets up to like 79-80F in there though, which is warmer than I like, but oh well.
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Re: Monotub overlay help [Re: Inocuole]
#23621521 - 09/07/16 10:47 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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That's good news. I'll set it at 150F and check it in 12 hours. I live in a studio apartment, so I know what you mean about the heat factor. Thanks for the advice
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For most small mushrooms 12hrs should do the trick. Sometimes I have to do up to 18-24 if they're super huge or dense.
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Re: Monotub overlay help [Re: Inocuole]
#23621570 - 09/07/16 10:59 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well, I have plenty of time to experiment, so I'll just forget experimenting and do what I'm told. That always ends up working out. I just screw stuff up on my own. You've answered a lot of my noob questions, and I really do appreciate it.
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I'd have waited another 24 hours or more to pick those. Maybe even a couple of days. But I'm glad you got something 
You'll learn more about patience, and when to stop f-ing with things. I only more recently got out of the habit of over misting. It's hard not to fuck with your tubs, especially when you don't have several projects going on. It took me having too many going to see the ones I left alone more (dialed-in and left alone) did much better overall.
But if this is your first attempt,  much better than my first cakes did! Keep it dialed in and you should start seeing another flush of pins. With MS, your flushes aren't as distinct, but more 'rolling'. Any other knots showing?
edit: pretty late with the response I guess!
Edited by dankington (09/07/16 11:13 AM)
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There's knots everywhere, and pins everywhere. They keep popping up in different places, and as time goes on, it seems like they appear quicker and in higher numbers. I bet that by tomorrow, there will be double the pins that there is now, if not more. The change in FAE set them off pretty good, and I'm seeing so much more activity in my bin
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Always good when there's activity in your bin, and it doesn't turn out to be raccoons.
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Re: Monotub overlay help [Re: Inocuole]
#23621710 - 09/07/16 11:40 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Absolutely. Or green mold, or something else like that. I'm thrilled that I haven't had an encounter with anything like that yet. I'm sure that it will happen eventually, though.
Here's a picture of after the premature harvest.
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Hate to be the bearer of bad news.. but you should keep a very close eye on that discolored patch in the bottom left. If any molds take hold, it's gonna be right there.
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Re: Monotub overlay help [Re: Inocuole]
#23621741 - 09/07/16 11:48 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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yeah, it could also be getting kinda windburned from a fan or something… got a fan on in the room? The poly by that yellowish discoloration should probably be tightened also.
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Re: Monotub overlay help [Re: dankington]
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I noticed that. It's actually recovering well, so I'm not as concerned as before, but I know that my inexperience caused it. My next monotub grow will be near perfect if I don't make any careless mistakes. Fortunately for me, the mycelium has been very forgiving, considering all the mistakes I've made
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Re: Monotub overlay help [Re: dankington]
#23621776 - 09/07/16 12:03 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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No fans here. I'll tighten the Poly-Fil with more micropore tape. Thanks for the tip
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You tighten polyfill by adding more polyfill. Micopore tape and polyfill at the same time is a little overkill.
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Okay. I'll just add more Poly-Fil to the hole. Much appreciated.
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Re: Monotub overlay help [Re: Inocuole]
#23621881 - 09/07/16 12:36 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
Inocuole said: Hate to be the bearer of bad news.. but you should keep a very close eye on that discolored patch in the bottom left. If any molds take hold, it's gonna be right there.
Yup. Looks creamy.
I would personally give that bin as much fresh air as you can, to stave off any molds.
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Should I take the cling wrap off the top?
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