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Re: Monotub overlay help [Re: partyboy420247]
    #23621262 - 09/07/16 09:23 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Congrats:thumbup: Those could have grown bigger but that's fine but let the rest go a while longer, the veil hadn't started stretching yet, probably could have let those go another 12-16hours or longer before the caps opened.


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Re: Monotub overlay help [Re: partyboy420247]
    #23621317 - 09/07/16 09:46 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Y'all are only elite at growing mushrooms, not at being elitists. I probably wouldn't have been harvesting these beauties this morning if it wasn't for all the help. They doubled in size overnight. I can't wait to see what my bin does next :smile:






Those three mushrooms there could have gotten about twice as big..  Like was said, the veil hadn't even begun to stretch, let alone break.


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Re: Monotub overlay help [Re: partyboy420247]
    #23621384 - 09/07/16 10:08 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Y'all are only elite at growing mushrooms, not at being elitists. I probably wouldn't have been harvesting these beauties this morning if it wasn't for all the help. They doubled in size overnight. I can't wait to see what my bin does next :smile:






You do realize those little buggers are not mature yet, right?


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Re: Monotub overlay help [Re: Inocuole]
    #23621408 - 09/07/16 10:14 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Damn, I was wrong again. I thought that the veil did break. I think that I was looking at something else and thinking it was the veil. The little fringe under the cap made me think that the mushrooms wanted to drop spores. My mistake. I'll use these as test subjects for drying, so their premature picking wasn't done in vain. I have a food dehydrator with a heating element (Nesco American Harvest), but I don't know what temperature to put it at. It has a range of 95-160F. Also, I picked these things with no gloves. I feel kind of funny now :smile:


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Re: Monotub overlay help [Re: partyboy420247]
    #23621415 - 09/07/16 10:17 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)



Here's a good shot of different stages of the veil.  Some are peeling off, some are not yet broken, one or two only look a little further along than the ones you posted.  The largest mushroom there is definitely what I'd call ready for picking.  The one on the left has a very stretched veil that has not broken yet.

The ones you picked, I would almost still call them pins.


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Re: Monotub overlay help [Re: Inocuole]
    #23621439 - 09/07/16 10:23 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Nice picture. Thank you. I was really trying to be hands-off when it came to letting the mushrooms grow and not picking them until they're completely ready, but I thought that those ones wanted to hurry up and drop spores. I know better now. I'll let them get to the point right before that happens, with a little bit of my minimal noob experience and a lot of help from the bad ass growers at The Shroomery :smile:


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Re: Monotub overlay help [Re: Inocuole]
    #23621454 - 09/07/16 10:26 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

For mushies I intend on drying/eating/storing, I like to wait until that veil is stretched out almost to the breaking point, like the one on the far left you see in Inocuole's picture example, or maybe harvest right as the veil breaks. 

If you were to wait a few hours after this point, the cap will flatten out and begin dumping spores all over your grow.  Makes your mushrooms taste like shit, they are messy, and it can mess with pin formation on the next flush from what I understand. 

The only reason I wait for the veil to break and the cap to flatten is if I'm going to be making spore prints with the caps.


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Re: Monotub overlay help [Re: partyboy420247]
    #23621456 - 09/07/16 10:26 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Even dropping a little bit of spores isn't gonna hurt anything, you're better off seeing just how long it takes so you have an idea of exactly how much time you have in the future.  Let one or two drop a little bit of spores for reference. :thumbup:

The one on the right here is where I really like the veil to be when I pick.  Almost broken, stretched, and with a few holes in it, but not all the way detached.


Shit picture but I didn't know it needed re-taking until it was too late.


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Re: Monotub overlay help [Re: Inocuole]
    #23621484 - 09/07/16 10:35 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Okay. I'll let a few of the mushrooms in the bin drop a little bit of spores before I harvest them, so I'll know exactly what to do in the future, and not have a bunch of immature fruits on my hands. Does anyone here use a food dehydrator to dry the fruits? Is there a temperature that's best to dry the mushrooms without destroying the active constituents of them? That's the last thing that I need to know now to be successful :smile:


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Re: Monotub overlay help [Re: partyboy420247]
    #23621488 - 09/07/16 10:36 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Every temperature that any dehydrator in the world can be set to, is okay for drying mushrooms.  I'd venture to say everyone here that's been helping uses a dehydrator to dry.


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Re: Monotub overlay help [Re: partyboy420247]
    #23621503 - 09/07/16 10:42 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Nice. I didn't want to make another rookie mistake by setting them to 160F and messing up the mushrooms. Thanks for helping a noob get to this point, I'll be sure to share all of my new-found knowledge with noobs like me, because everyone has to start somewhere :smile:


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Re: Monotub overlay help [Re: partyboy420247]
    #23621510 - 09/07/16 10:44 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

160F is perfect.  I do 150F for only one reason, because that 10 degree difference makes the room WAY hotter for some reason.  It's a pretty small room and I have grows going in there so I don't want it being hot as fuck in there for 12 hours out of a day.  With 150F it still gets up to like 79-80F in there though, which is warmer than I like, but oh well.


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Re: Monotub overlay help [Re: Inocuole]
    #23621521 - 09/07/16 10:47 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

That's good news. I'll set it at 150F and check it in 12 hours. I live in a studio apartment, so I know what you mean about the heat factor. Thanks for the advice :smile:


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Re: Monotub overlay help [Re: partyboy420247]
    #23621539 - 09/07/16 10:51 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

For most small mushrooms 12hrs should do the trick.  Sometimes I have to do up to 18-24 if they're super huge or dense.


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Re: Monotub overlay help [Re: Inocuole]
    #23621570 - 09/07/16 10:59 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Well, I have plenty of time to experiment, so I'll just forget experimenting and do what I'm told. That always ends up working out. I just screw stuff up on my own. You've answered a lot of my noob questions, and I really do appreciate it.


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Re: Monotub overlay help [Re: partyboy420247]
    #23621608 - 09/07/16 11:08 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

:sad: I'd have waited another 24 hours or more to pick those. Maybe even a couple of days. But I'm glad you got something :thumbup:

You'll learn more about patience, and when to stop f-ing with things. I only more recently got out of the habit of over misting. It's hard not to fuck with your tubs, especially when you don't have several projects going on. It took me having too many going to see the ones I left alone more (dialed-in and left alone) did much better overall.

But if this is your first attempt, :congrats:
much better than my first cakes did! Keep it dialed in and you should start seeing another flush of pins. With MS, your flushes aren't as distinct, but more 'rolling'. Any other knots showing?

edit: :imslow: pretty late with the response I guess!


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Re: Monotub overlay help [Re: partyboy420247]
    #23621685 - 09/07/16 11:30 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

There's knots everywhere, and pins everywhere. They keep popping up in different places, and as time goes on, it seems like they appear quicker and in higher numbers. I bet that by tomorrow, there will be double the pins that there is now, if not more. The change in FAE set them off pretty good, and I'm seeing so much more activity in my bin :smile:


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Re: Monotub overlay help [Re: partyboy420247]
    #23621693 - 09/07/16 11:32 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Always good when there's activity in your bin, and it doesn't turn out to be raccoons. :shakefist:


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Re: Monotub overlay help [Re: Inocuole]
    #23621710 - 09/07/16 11:40 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Absolutely. Or green mold, or something else like that. I'm thrilled that I haven't had an encounter with anything like that yet. I'm sure that it will happen eventually, though.

Here's a picture of after the premature harvest.



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Re: Monotub overlay help [Re: partyboy420247]
    #23621718 - 09/07/16 11:43 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Hate to be the bearer of bad news.. but you should keep a very close eye on that discolored patch in the bottom left.  If any molds take hold, it's gonna be right there.


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