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Powerman5000
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one chunky mother
#23616966 - 09/06/16 04:04 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've got this weird looking chunky mother growing - it's the 2nd flush in a semi-successful fruiting chamber ...

... I'm a noob and this is my first grow, it looks different to other cubes that I see in the forum. Are there different types of cubes, and is this a particular species? Or is it a freak and/or result of the environment it's growing in?
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Why do you have perlite on your cakes? And what the hell is that contraption?
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Powerman5000
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Supalemonhaze said: Why do you have perlite on your cakes? And what the hell is that contraption?
lol it's a new "tek" that i'm developing  I call it "USGFCFB" tek - more info here -> https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23581834
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Lmao thats the craziest chamber ive seen yet...id say its not working very well...
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Powerman5000
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Lol yea, it could do with some improvements. Version 2 will have more wires and stuff
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Clearly your intelligent but you might be overthinking this one..theres no wheel here to reinvent...but in the name of fun and combining passions..i like were your heading
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Powerman5000 said: Lol yea, it could do with some improvements. Version 2 will have more wires and stuff
I hope you mean LESS wires looks very wet in there..may be getting problems down the road.
and is that uncolonized grains to the left in the tub?
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Passive fruiting chamber is more automated than automated fruiting chambers
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Is that PE Cubensis?
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Gotta love when someone tries to reinvent the wheel before ever taking a ride on a cart. Follow the proven design and have a box full of mushrooms instead of wires.
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AgarStudent said: Is that PE Cubensis?
Probably just a wet B+ or some other regular cube.
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Supalemonhaze
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Powerman5000 said:
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Supalemonhaze said: Why do you have perlite on your cakes? And what the hell is that contraption?
lol it's a new "tek" that i'm developing  I call it "USGFCFB" tek - more info here -> https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23581834
So let me get this straight, you are developing a new "tek" on your first grow? This ought to be good What you really need to do is learn first, improvise second. Walk before you run or you might just do a faceplant.
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Supalemonhaze said: This ought to be good
What do you mean ought to? Did you read it? That thing is a damn frankenfuck.
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Powerman5000 said: Yea it did turn out crazy complicated lol. I was racing against the clock because my cakes were almost ready to go. It took about 2 weeks and < $100 in parts. The most expensive thing was the $50 heat cord that's meant for reptile enclosures.

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Re: one chunky mother [Re: Inocuole] 1
#23618959 - 09/06/16 05:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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that looks like a fire hazard
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Re: one chunky mother [Re: mushboy]
#23618979 - 09/06/16 05:09 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I didn't see that pic before. That's just fucking horrible. Throw that thing out ASAP, OP.
Should have just spent that cash on a brand new presto, which serves a much better purpose than that contraption.
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Re: one chunky mother [Re: mushboy]
#23618986 - 09/06/16 05:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yep, the USGFCFB tek is working well 
Its cubes, but not sure what strain etc. (Whats a B+?)
I love automation, even more than some ppl here love SGFC's. I consider my fruiting chamber like the Wright brothers first plane - it flies, but just barely learnt alot from it and am looking fwd to the next upgrades.
Dont get me wrong, i have no problems with SGFC, but misting and fanning manually isnt automated enough for me
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Well, at least you have a stellar attitude about it. I just think what you've got going on there is a case of being "too smart for your own good", if you follow my meaning.
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if some LE figure saw something like that they would think you are trying to electrocute the mushrooms into nazi supermen.
i love that you are creative but holy shit.
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Next, you need a crane-like arm that can pick your shrooms for you. Equipped with some kind of AI that can detect when the optimal time for picking is. Also, you need it to wash the fruits off and load them into some kind of fancy auto drying chamber. That chamber should have AI too. You need to get a couple robots brah. Be advised, DON'T let them run you. Be careful.
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Powerman5000
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Haha an arm that picks the mushrooms! Thats brilliant, ill have a crack at that in version 7
My goal is a set and forget chamber hidden away in the outside shed. It will maintain perfect temp, humidity, FAE, misting etc. using the magic of software and hardware 
Ill make the next version prettier as well.
I appreciate the concerns about me electricuting myself, but other than the waterproof heat cable everything runs off a 12v battery (and solar panel) so im pretty safe
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if you have a monotub with substrate at field capasity you dont need to do anything. its set and forget, truly automated. remember the mycel is alive and creates heat and evaporation off the sub gives moist air, all this creates air movement in the tub and with holes in the tub everything goes automatically.
I see in your write up you aim for 98% RH, thats way too much and will just keep your fruits and cakes wet. mushrooms wants variation in RH.
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like i said i love your creativity ....
buuuuut
just an opinion..
mushies are a natural awesomely complex yet simple thing. throwing all the technology into it like that feels like you are taking something away from how special they are.
no bad vibes towards you in any way. just my
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wtfcrazymofo
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you should just go for an automated grow shead.
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Fuck, why stop there? Why not automate an entire ecosystem? Automated cows eating automated grass, shitting automated shit in your automated shit bed, which will be inoculated by robot arms (automatically), and then harvested by a some kind of automated mushroom scythe.
Then just create some automated drug-fueled robots to keep the demand high. Like Bender, but psychedelic.
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Re: one chunky mother [Re: Inocuole]
#23619132 - 09/06/16 06:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: Fuck, why stop there? Why not automate an entire ecosystem? Automated cows eating automated grass, shitting automated shit in your automated shit bed, which will be inoculated by robot arms (automatically), and then harvested by a some kind of automated mushroom scythe.
Then just create some automated drug-fueled robots to keep the demand high. Like Bender, but psychedelic.
Your sarcasm fuels my existence.
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That was only half sarcasm. Another small part of me really wants to see this succeed because fuck mother nature and the horse she rode in on.
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Re: one chunky mother [Re: Inocuole]
#23619152 - 09/06/16 06:06 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Fuck yeah, a mushroom powered bender, when he burps rainbows shoot out. You need cameras and software able to detect when the beads of moisture has evaporated then remist just until they are glistening again, until that is created no automated chamber will beat a pair of eyeballs and a spray bottle.
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Re: one chunky mother [Re: cronicr]
#23619160 - 09/06/16 06:08 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think it's got some potential if he collects data over a number of runs and compares it to see what he can improve on. Technology's great if you know how to use it.
If you just want to grow some mushrooms, a proven method like the sgfc might work but if you like to innovate and have fun while you're doing it, more power to you. Creativity is awesome. Just don't expect the same results right away.
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you die
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Re: one chunky mother [Re: Kenetic]
#23619182 - 09/06/16 06:14 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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kenetic said:
And if you fail.....
you die
But first, you pay taxes. Which might suck even more.
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Re: one chunky mother [Re: mushboy]
#23619203 - 09/06/16 06:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Op, use a sgfc, and just stick to the grow shed idea.
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Powerman5000 said:
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Supalemonhaze said: Why do you have perlite on your cakes? And what the hell is that contraption?
lol it's a new "tek" that i'm developing  I call it "USGFCFB" tek - more info here -> https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23581834
lol that tek looks like a perfect match for the SAB tek by Filthy in my signature
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Hi. What a creative setup indeed. But it seems too complex for the job, too many moving parts in my opinion. With the addition of an ultrasonic humidifier, you could ditch those dangly DIY servo-vanes and only use controlled fans. And get much better FAE.
I see that you're using a DHT22 sensor. How it works for you ? Sensing humidity in the 80-100% range is tricky. On the paper the DHT22 seems to cut it, but i wonder how well it works in practice. They are better than DHT11, but are still cheap ass chinese sensors. I've bought 5 of them on alie and i'm in the process of benchmarking them against each other, with and without micropore tape on them (to keep water droplets off the capacitive substrate). So far they performed fine, but i'm still considering buying real industrial sensors.
I plan to use them in a Grow House (for outside ambient air, AC air output, GH ambient air, and substrate level - for calibration only).
Are you doing any data logging ? I planned to fit everything on a ESP8266 (control system, RTC, data logging, web API, ...), but I might throw a Linux board at it, for simplicity. I could then add a webcam or a cheap USB microscope, since my grow is at a remote location like yours.
This strange mushroom looks like a fused cluster. Please report back the weight of this thing
Edited by Piezo (09/07/16 05:55 AM)
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Re: one chunky mother [Re: Piezo]
#23621079 - 09/07/16 07:57 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I like when hobby cube growers go more complicated than actual mushroom farms because MUH automation
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Powerman5000
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I gotta say, it's insane how quickly mushrooms grow! Came home from work yesterday to find the mutant and another cake ready to pick. I got 100g wet + change out of 2 cakes ...


... the mutant shroom was the only one on that cake, but was 25g on it's own. Some of the other cakes are finally starting to fruit - they were bone dry from an original mistake in my setup (lesson learnt) but seem to have recovered quite well.
I see what you guys mean about "wet shrooms" - some of the ones I picked didn't look "pristine", but they looked better than some of the subs I've picked in the wild this season, so no biggie. Something to fix for v2.
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I didn't see that pic before. That's just fucking horrible. Throw that thing out ASAP, OP.
lol I will soon, don't worry. And out of the ashes, a phoenix will rise and version 2.0 will be born I'll wait till I've harvested all I can from my 8 cakes though.
p.s. I was confused before why there were so many naysayers here before - I thought psychedelics were meant to "enlighten" people, but then i figured it out - you guy's are testing me! Encouragement through reverse psychology - I love it! Shrooms really do enlighten people. Cheers guys. Looking fwd to sharing progress on my "unholy" fruiting chamber soon 
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eat that right now !!
nay saying because you can grow shrooms with all kinds of goofy setups but a alot of people hate when they see someone going off course and doing things that will effect the overall quality of mushies when they have tried it all before.
i nay sayed cause i thought it looked like a fire hazard.
ps. i also thought you were making electric nazi super mushroom men.
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Re: one chunky mother [Re: mushboy]
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don't eat 10 grams if you value your sanity lol
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Re: one chunky mother [Re: Kenetic]
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Re: one chunky mother [Re: Kenetic]
#23623118 - 09/07/16 06:26 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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kenetic said: don't eat 10 grams if you value your sanity lol
the real trick is to devalue, degrade and destroy ones sanity pre-trip
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I do all sorts of weird shit in life...people think Im odd...just as long as you stay safe....and no one else gets hurt why not?  HH =]-~
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Re: one chunky mother [Re: Kenetic]
#23623186 - 09/07/16 06:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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kenetic said: don't eat 10 grams if you value your sanity lol
You get it back after 6-8 hours
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Re: one chunky mother [Re: NumeroEno]
#23624758 - 09/08/16 05:09 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yep I agree, each to his own hey, as long as we're not hurting each other it's all good 
Cracker-dry those came to around 7 grams - I won't eat them at once though, the most I've had so far is 3 or 4 grams but shrooms only found me a few months ago so the journey has just begun for me.
For me it's not really a "hobby", but it's more medicine. It lifted me out of depression, and miraculously made me able to give up cigarettes and alcohol. I've taken up muay thai, and started repairing/looking after my physical body. I'm no longer at an age where I'm chasing a buzz, but am now repairing my brain from addiction, depression, anxiety, bad thought patters, and all sorts of bad shit. Off course, getting high on shrooms is fun as fuck too, as you all know.
Psilocybin is the most amazing and powerful medicine, and I have full respect for it. Shrooms & weed is all I need If anyone reads this who found themselves in a deep hole in life, and is contemplating trying psychedelics as a way out - do it and it may change your life 
I gotta say, full respect for those who mycology is truly a hobby, and cheers again for helping me troubleshoot my setup Awesome forum, with lots of helpful people, may God/Universe/(whatever it is) bless you all (if you believe in that sort of thing). Sometimes we're helping others without even knowing it With all sincerity, you guys who like to give a "dig in the ribs" are invaluable to me in un-learning how to react in anger - I see you as sparing partners of the mind, in the same gym, which is a complete mind-shift for me - another shroom miracle as I see it.
Anyways, I'll post pics of my chamber in the next grow, for those who are interested in that kind of stuff. Sorry for long post, here's a pic of two more cakes that were ready for the pickin today (around 100g wet - half of which was those 2 big ones) ...
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What... the fuck.... that is a fat mother fucker.
I'm having hard time believing this.
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Re: one chunky mother [Re: Inocuole]
#23625451 - 09/08/16 11:15 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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when you kill off all pinning triggers you're left with fewer but bigger fruits 
its not the cakes from the OP tho, that fattie grew on the side of the cake. this one on top.
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Good eye.
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Re: one chunky mother [Re: Inocuole]
#23625467 - 09/08/16 11:20 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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you can also see how the OP fruits are drenched in water while these newer pics arent. not saying they arent his but the fruits sure look better once they got out of the water park FC!
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Yea I stopped wetting the crap out of them after that previous one was super-soggy - i started off way too dry, then way too wet, now im trying to find the middle way. Same FC though lol believe it or not. Maybe having a steady 22C temp helped them survive the waterboarding
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.... This is cray. All the fruiting potential of an entire cakes in two mushrooms.... lol
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