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Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore'
    #23616826 - 09/06/16 02:00 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Barack Obama has cancelled a meeting with the president of the Philippines after Rodrigo Duterte appeared to call him a “son of a whore”.

The move followed a warning from Duterte to the US president to keep off the subject of extrajudicial killings in his country’s brutal drug war when they were due to meet on Tuesday at a regional summit in Laos. Duterte told a press conference that Obama “must be respectful”.

The firebrand president was answering a reporter’s question about how he intended to explain the extrajudicial killings to Obama, before boarding a plane to Laos for the Association of South-east Asian Nations summit.

“You must be respectful. Do not just throw away questions and statements. Son of a whore, I will curse you in that forum,” Duterte was quoted by as saying by Agence-France Presse. “We will be wallowing in the mud like pigs if you do that to me.”

When his comments reached the Obama camp, the US president initially said he was asking his staff to find out whether holding the meeting as scheduled would be useful.

“What I’ve instructed my team to do is to talk to their Philippine counterparts to find out, is if this in fact a time where we can have some constructive, productive conversations,” Obama said at a news conference at the end of a G20 summit in the eastern Chinese city of Hangzhou.

“Obviously the Filipino people are some of our closest friends and allies and the Philippines is a treaty ally of ours. But I always want to make sure that if I’m having a meeting that it’s actually productive and we’re getting something done.”

But hours later the decision was made to cancel, a White House spokesman said. Instead, Obama will meet with South Korean president Park Geun-hye.

Duterte has faced condemnation from human rights campaigners, diplomats and the UN for inciting a war on drugs that, according to official figures published on Sunday, has led to 2,400 deaths in just two months.

The defiant Philippine leader has responded to critics with a string of outbursts, including labelling the US ambassador to Manila a “gay son of a whore”, telling the Catholic church “don’t fuck with me”, and accusing the UN of issuing “shitting” statements about his anti-drugs policies.

Obama joins a long list of people whose mothers’ purity have been called into question by Duterte, including Pope Francis, Philippine bishops and a murdered journalist, as well as the drugs traffickers who are the main targets of his domestic law and order policies.

He took office in June after winning a landslide on promises to sort out drug crime in the country, and told crowds on the day of his inauguration: “If you know of any addicts, go ahead and kill them yourself as getting their parents to do it would be too painful.”

During his campaign, he said 100,000 people would die in his crackdown, with so many dead bodies dumped in Manila Bay that fish there would grow fat from feeding on them.

The call has led to what critics say amounts to open season on suspected drug criminals on the streets of Manila and other major cities, with thousands killed by vigilantes and police, who invariably claim to have fired back in self-defence.

In June, the UN secretary general, Ban Ki-moon, condemned Duterte’s apparent support for extrajudicial killings, saying they were “illegal and a breach of fundamental rights and freedoms”. Duterte replied by calling the UN “stupid” and threatening to withdraw the Philippines from the supranational body.

Asked about the possible consequences of his comments, he said: “What is ... repercussions? I don’t give a shit to them.”




Bad time to be a drug user in the Philippines.


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: falsereality]
    #23616834 - 09/06/16 02:08 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Isn't it true tho? I thought Obama's mom was like a lesbian porn model who got pregnant out of wedlock and became a single mother?


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Great Scott]
    #23616841 - 09/06/16 02:12 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

she is fucking amazing if that is true, already impressive to have your kid be president but to raise him under that proposedly true circumstance.

did they shoot a lot of lesbian porn in kenya in islamic communities back in the day?


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: ReposadoXochipilli]
    #23616851 - 09/06/16 02:17 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: ReposadoXochipilli]
    #23616852 - 09/06/16 02:18 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Obama was mentored by commies and groomed at Occidental. His Presidency is no accident.


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: ReposadoXochipilli]
    #23616857 - 09/06/16 02:21 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

IB4 CIA sabotages his power and stages a coup.


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Great Scott]
    #23616858 - 09/06/16 02:21 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Great Scott]
    #23616929 - 09/06/16 03:27 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Isn't it true tho? I thought Obama's mom was like a lesbian porn model who got pregnant out of wedlock and became a single mother?




Assuming it is true. What does that make Trump's wife?

Is there any proof, aside from pictures, that that really is her? I mean how do they know that isn't another woman who looks similarly to her? Have any of these people uncovered documents that she signed, such as a model release?

Do you believe Obama is Kenyan too?


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Crystal G]
    #23616934 - 09/06/16 03:35 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

That's just how these libertine commies roll. And it's hard to really know for sure where Obama is really from since the public record got destroyed/altered and replaced with forgery.


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Great Scott]
    #23616937 - 09/06/16 03:41 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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That's just how these libertine commies roll. And it's hard to really know for sure where Obama is really from since the public record got destroyed/altered and replaced with forgery.




So you believe that Obama's mom is a porn star. Even though the only evidence is some pictures that MAYBE look a little like her, but might not be her.

You also believe that Obama was born in Kenya. Even though the people who have put forth this theory have not brought forth any evidence whatsoever, not even another birth certificate from Kenya.

You believe these two theories at the same time, even though the person who made the documentary about Obama's mom acknowledges that this porno footage was shot in Hawaii.


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: falsereality] * 1
    #23616940 - 09/06/16 03:43 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

was totally not surprised at what i read in the op, the phillipines are commiting some real violations in human rights with capital punishment in the war on drugs. Obama has been pardoning non violent drug users while the president in the phillipines has been doing as far opposite as you can get.


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Crystal G]
    #23616942 - 09/06/16 03:45 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

hey that immigrant prostitute is a good smart lady! very classy and respectful. really shows trumps a family man and a good christian.


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Crystal G]
    #23616943 - 09/06/16 03:45 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Crystal G said:
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PeyoteZen said:
That's just how these libertine commies roll. And it's hard to really know for sure where Obama is really from since the public record got destroyed/altered and replaced with forgery.




So you believe that Obama's mom is a porn star. Even though the only evidence is some pictures that MAYBE look a little like her, but might not be her.

You also believe that Obama was born in Kenya. Even though the people who have put forth this theory have not brought forth any evidence whatsoever, not even another birth certificate from Kenya.

You believe these two theories at the same time, even though the person who made the documentary about Obama's mom acknowledges that this porno footage was shot in Hawaii.






The globalists have really got to you haven't they Crystal?


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Great Scott] * 1
    #23616944 - 09/06/16 03:45 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Shroomslip]
    #23616950 - 09/06/16 03:47 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I'm not convinced it's the same woman. I don't know if it's just the angle, but the nude woman on the right's teeth look different. Like crooked or something. Her eyes also look totally different, but I guess that could be makeup. But the woman on the right, her mouth and nose are spaced farther apart too.


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Crystal G]
    #23616955 - 09/06/16 03:51 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Kenya? Bitch please, don't put words in my mouth. I believe little Barry was shit out of a demon in the Philippines and dumped in the rainbow state for germination.


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Crystal G]
    #23616960 - 09/06/16 03:57 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Crystal G said:
I'm not convinced it's the same woman. I don't know if it's just the angle, but the nude woman on the right's teeth look different. Like crooked or something. Her eyes also look totally different, but I guess that could be makeup. But the woman on the right, her mouth and nose are spaced farther apart too.






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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Great Scott]
    #23617354 - 09/06/16 07:58 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

World leaders don't respect Obama, never have and never will.


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: qman]
    #23617372 - 09/06/16 08:07 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

China snubbed him on his most recent visit. Made him exit through the back of the air bus.



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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Crystal G]
    #23617381 - 09/06/16 08:10 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Crystal G said:
I'm not convinced it's the same woman. I don't know if it's just the angle, but the nude woman on the right's teeth look different. Like crooked or something. Her eyes also look totally different, but I guess that could be makeup. But the woman on the right, her mouth and nose are spaced farther apart too.





did you try putting your glasses on and looking. it's obama's momma








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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Great Scott]
    #23617382 - 09/06/16 08:11 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

they make fun of him:badmanthisfeels:


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Great Scott]
    #23617416 - 09/06/16 08:27 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Nice titties she had there.


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Le_Canard]
    #23617455 - 09/06/16 08:45 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Those are the same udders that used to feed little Obama. Pretty crazy to think, huh?


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23617467 - 09/06/16 08:51 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Crystal G said:
I'm not convinced it's the same woman. I don't know if it's just the angle, but the nude woman on the right's teeth look different. Like crooked or something. Her eyes also look totally different, but I guess that could be makeup. But the woman on the right, her mouth and nose are spaced farther apart too.





did you try putting your glasses on and looking. it's obama's momma





Don't you think if it were remotely true, Fox News would have been all over that news story? I don't think even Breitbart covered the story, which should tell you something about its authenticity.


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Crystal G]
    #23617489 - 09/06/16 08:59 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I appreciate the titties but just as many news outlets are translating it son of a bitch which is of course a figure of speech and not a direct reference to his mother, which in the context of what he was talking about makes more sense.

"Duterte responded: "I am a president of a sovereign state and we have long ceased to be a colony. I do not have any master except the Filipino people, nobody but nobody. You must be respectful. Do not just throw questions. Putang ina I will swear at you in that forum," he said, using the Tagalog phrase for "son of a bitch.""


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Crystal G]
    #23617496 - 09/06/16 09:04 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Crystal G said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
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Crystal G said:
I'm not convinced it's the same woman. I don't know if it's just the angle, but the nude woman on the right's teeth look different. Like crooked or something. Her eyes also look totally different, but I guess that could be makeup. But the woman on the right, her mouth and nose are spaced farther apart too.





did you try putting your glasses on and looking. it's obama's momma





Don't you think if it were remotely true, Fox News would have been all over that news story? I don't think even Breitbart covered the story, which should tell you something about its authenticity.





so you're an avid fox viewer and reader of Breitbart


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Great Scott]
    #23617531 - 09/06/16 09:20 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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qman said:
World leaders don't respect Obama, never have and never will.



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China snubbed him on his most recent visit. Made him exit through the back of the air bus.







Why do the other leaders not like Obama?


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23617544 - 09/06/16 09:26 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Crystal G said:
Don't you think if it were remotely true, Fox News would have been all over that news story? I don't think even Breitbart covered the story, which should tell you something about its authenticity.





so you're an avid fox viewer and reader of Breitbart




If you have a Fox News source citing the information as true then I would be happy to read it.


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: shLong]
    #23617552 - 09/06/16 09:29 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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shLong said:
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qman said:
World leaders don't respect Obama, never have and never will.



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China snubbed him on his most recent visit. Made him exit through the back of the air bus.







Why do the other leaders not like Obama?



He's very smug and arrogant first of all. Second of all, he consistently tries to impose his globalist agenda on countries that have vehemently rejected his brand of globalist corruption for decades. He projects his own corrupt agenda onto them with a "holier than thou" attitude. The leaders of other countries are growing some balls and standing up to him, and he's too much of a pussy to do anything about it.


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Crystal G] * 1
    #23617553 - 09/06/16 09:30 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Crystal G said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
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Crystal G said:
Don't you think if it were remotely true, Fox News would have been all over that news story? I don't think even Breitbart covered the story, which should tell you something about its authenticity.





so you're an avid fox viewer and reader of Breitbart




If you have a Fox News source citing the information as true then I would be happy to read it.





so now fox news is the credible source


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: shLong]
    #23617567 - 09/06/16 09:34 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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shLong said:
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qman said:
World leaders don't respect Obama, never have and never will.



Quote:

PeyoteZen said:
China snubbed him on his most recent visit. Made him exit through the back of the air bus.







Why do the other leaders not like Obama?




They know TPTB in the US put in a House Negro as their puppet, they can't respect a man who signed up for that role.


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23617581 - 09/06/16 09:40 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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so now fox news is the credible source




One of the unwritten rules of journalism is that you cannot fabricate or publish evidence that is not real or authentic or all based on a lie.

Therefore, if a reputable news outlet covers a story, it is because they have evidence to believe it was real at the time they published it.

Now, they can certainly SLANT the evidence to form an opinion one way or another. But if they published it, it means that they have verified that that is indeed Obama's mother in the photos.


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Crystal G] * 1
    #23617612 - 09/06/16 09:50 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Crystal G said:
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so now fox news is the credible source




One of the unwritten rules of journalism is that you cannot fabricate or publish evidence that is not real or authentic or all based on a lie.

Therefore, if a reputable news outlet covers a story, it is because they have evidence to believe it was real at the time they published it.

Now, they can certainly SLANT the evidence to form an opinion one way or another. But if they published it, it means that they have verified that that is indeed Obama's mother in the photos.



You clearly have no idea how the news works :lol:


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Webster10]
    #23617639 - 09/06/16 10:01 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

So apparently snopes ran an article saying it was not her but the model Marcy Moore and has since pulled the article. Looking at the photos closely, I don't believe it to be either woman. Dunham would have to have been pregnant in the picture and so now some are claiming she must not be Obama's real mom.


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Crystal G]
    #23617644 - 09/06/16 10:03 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Crystal G said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
so now fox news is the credible source




One of the unwritten rules of journalism is that you cannot fabricate or publish evidence that is not real or authentic or all based on a lie.





hahaha... where did yo come up with this bullshit?

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Therefore, if a reputable news outlet covers a story, it is because they have evidence to believe it was real at the time they published it.






so when NBS decided to alter a 9/11 call to make someone look to be much different
than he really is, that wasnt fabricating 'evidence', it was in fact publishing
something authentic


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Now, they can certainly SLANT the evidence to form an opinion one way or another. But if they published it, it means that they have verified that that is indeed Obama's mother in the photos.




it doesnt mean shit. what it does mean is that most news outlets were no willing
to step into the realm of attacking woman that had passed away just a few years
earlier.


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: SoloTrip]
    #23617645 - 09/06/16 10:04 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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So apparently snopes ran an article saying it was not her but the model Marcy Moore and has since pulled the article. Looking at the photos closely, I don't believe it to be either woman. Dunham would have to have been pregnant in the picture and so now some are claiming she must not be Obama's real mom.





why would she have had to be pregnant and what's to say she wasnt. some women dont show until they're 5 months along


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23617647 - 09/06/16 10:05 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

because the date of the photo. It's not a claim I'm making but that I read. It's a mystery that's for sure.


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: SoloTrip]
    #23617653 - 09/06/16 10:07 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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because the date of the photo. It's not a claim I'm making but that I read. It's a mystery that's for sure.





we dont know the date the photo was taken, we can only go by the accounts of others
on it's timeline, photos can be taking months before they're developed, unlike these
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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: shLong]
    #23617688 - 09/06/16 10:21 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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In June, the UN secretary general, Ban Ki-moon, condemned Duterte’s apparent support for extrajudicial killings, saying they were “illegal and a breach of fundamental rights and freedoms”. Duterte replied by calling the UN “stupid” and threatening to withdraw the Philippines from the supranational body.

Asked about the possible consequences of his comments, he said: “What is ... repercussions? I don’t give a shit to them.”




Petty colonial governor picking fights with his masters.
Ask Gaddafi what the word repercussions means.


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Why do the other leaders not like Obama?






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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Webster10]
    #23617707 - 09/06/16 10:27 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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hahaha... where did yo come up with this bullshit?




That's one of the first things that's constantly and always taught in journalism schools. Any journalist will tell you that.

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You clearly have no idea how the news works :lol:




Why don't you cite an example of an instance where they used completely fabricated pictures or other type of evidence and presented it as fact.


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23617715 - 09/06/16 10:30 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

OK I found the article again is from a website called Nobarack if that is any indication of their slant. It says that Dunham was only in Hawaii for one holiday season (see themes in photos) during which she was pregnant. The whole thing seems suspect to me other than it shows that the woman in the photos doesn't look like Marcy Moore.
I would say to look at closeups of all three women and I surmise you will determine as I have that they are in fact three different women.


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Post a link/source to this quote, OP


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Crystal G]
    #23617727 - 09/06/16 10:37 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

So, this is all the information about the matter written by an attorney who was also the author for the book "Bullspotting," which is a book that is about how to spot hoaxes:

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Since their original appearance in 2008, some have attempted to debunk the photos by identifying the model. This has proven fruitless, and unsurprisingly so; many mid-century nude and fetish models were nameless faces, anonymous to the world at large.

To his credit, Gilbert did somehow locate additional photos of the mystery woman he claims is Ann. And as noted above, he named several magazines where he claims they appeared. Both on his website and in Dreams, he shows the covers of six specific issues, and the website (on the right) flatly states "Frank Marshall Davis' photos of Ann Dunham appear in these vintage men's magazines." The magazines Gilbert shows are:

Exotique #2
Exotique #4
Exotique #6
Exotique #14
Secret Pleasures
Battling Babes
Bizarre Life #9

The last three magazines were published in 1958, 1957, and 1969, respectively. Exotique was published between 1955 and 1959.

Curiously, though, the pictures Gilbert shows appear in NONE of the issues he identifies. I consulted with the owner of a fansite for these magazines, who checked and confirmed that Gilbert's photos are nowhere to be seen in these issues. I personally reviewed copies of Exotique #14, Battling Babes and Secret Pleasures, and they included NO pictures of the mystery model.

What Secret Pleasures DID feature, on page 26, was this photo:


Who is the woman? I have no idea. But look at the chair she's seated on. At the pillow in the chair. At the window behind her. At the record player to her right, and the records peeking out below her leg. At the cabinet behind her, and at the floor beneath her. Look familiar?

 
That's right, it's the exact same setting as the 'Ann' photos. Published in a 1958 men's magazine. And it's not the only one. From Exotique #25, pages 7 and 40, respectively:

 
Again, does that setting look familiar? Same couch, same floor, same picture on the wall, even the same random pillow arrangement on top of the couch as seen in other photos in Gilbert's videos. The woman is even wearing the same spiked-ball earrings as Gilbert's 'Ann'. Who is she? I don't know, but she looks an awful lot like the woman who appears with Gilbert's 'Ann' in several photos in his movie.

Now granted, these photos alone don't prove that the mystery model couldn't be Ann. Perhaps Davis took these in 1958, and he didn't change the arrangement of his room for two years. That's odd, and hardly the most compelling explanation, but it's not impossible. (Even though Gilbert himself would likely concede that these are from the same photoshoot.)

Unfortunately for Gilbert, that's not all. Further up this post, there's a screenshot of Gilbert's own website, with a video still that shows the woman he claims is 'Ann' sitting on a couch, pulling a black opera glove onto her left arm. That image appears in Gilbert's Dreams and in his promotional videos as well, but he's never released a full-size copy of that photo.

I found one, however:

This picture appeared in Exotique #23, on page 22. In 1958. When Ann Dunham was only 15 years old. Two years before Ann Dunham even moved to Hawaii.

It can also be found reprinted in volume 2 of the 3-volume Exotique hardcover collection.

We may never know who the mystery model is. But the Dunham family didn't move to Hawaii until the summer of 1960. Unless Ann Dunham had access to a time machine in the 1960s, it simply cannot be her.

Moreover, Joel Gilbert knows this. He found that opera glove photo; it was not circulating the web as an 'Ann' photo prior to his videos. He knows it came from Exotique, a magazine that ceased publication in 1959. From WND: "Gilbert found that several of the photos in the collection appeared in a magazine called Exotique, published by pin-up photographer Leonard Burtman, who worked in New York City."

Thus he knows this picture was published two years before Ann first stepped foot in Hawaii, years before she could have met Frank Marshall Davis. And yet he explicitly claims, multiple times, that the photo was TAKEN at Christmastime 1960. This is not a lie of ignorance or mistake; it is a lie of pure, fully-informed malice.

And that's the BEST-case scenario for Gilbert. Gilbert knows that Ann was born in 1942, and he knows he found these pictures in 1958 magazines. If Gilbert truly believes that these ARE somehow pictures of a 15-year-old Ann, then he's been distributing hundreds of thousands of DVDs featuring nude and erotic pictures of someone he believes to be an underage girl.

Perhaps unsurprisingly, Gilbert has thus far refused to disclose the actual sources of the erotic photos he put in his videos. He identified six issues, none of which checked out, and five of which contradict his 1960 date anyway. As shown above, to disclose the true issues would be to destroy his own claim that the photos are of Ann, and to let his audience know that he's lying to them. And so he refuses to cite his sources, even when they're just magazine issue numbers.

So there you have it. The people who've said 'Frank Davis took naked pictures of Stanley Ann Dunham in December of 1960' are provably wrong. The woman they claim is Ann was having her photographs from this very shoot published at least as early as 1958. When Ann was a 15-year-old in Washington, years before she ever stepped foot on Hawaii or could have conceivably even met Frank Marshall Davis. Joel Gilbert has unnecessarily obscured the actual publication dates of the pictures he found, because he knows those simple facts will prove to everyone that he's lying about them being taken in 1960, and lying about Frank Marshall Davis taking them of Ann, and lying about them being evidence of an intimate relationship between Frank and Ann.




Read the rest and see the picture evidence here:

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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Crystal G]
    #23617732 - 09/06/16 10:40 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

By the way, here is a picture of Marcy Moore for comparison. I don't think it's her either, but it's important to post because many people can have similar faces



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hahaha... where did yo come up with this bullshit?




That's one of the first things that's constantly and always taught in journalism schools. Any journalist will tell you that.




Eh, don't be naive. I studied journalism myself and its true that we're taught to look into sources extensively, right from the beginning, but that doesn't mean people do that in practice. Dishonesty, sensationalism and lazy incompetence run rampant in the industry.


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23617804 - 09/06/16 11:08 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Leave it to a commie to confuse the difference between what's supposed to happen and what actually happens.


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    #23618000 - 09/06/16 12:19 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

One could easily invert that statement


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Leave it to a libertarian to confuse the difference between what's supposed to happen and what actually happens.




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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23618198 - 09/06/16 01:10 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Eh, don't be naive. I studied journalism myself and its true that we're taught to look into sources extensively, right from the beginning, but that doesn't mean people do that in practice. Dishonesty, sensationalism and lazy incompetence run rampant in the industry.




I'm sure that there are some smaller zines and blogs that have journalists doing lazy reporting. But if a reporter at a big news station like CNN or ABC or whatever failed to do research and brought forth a picture or a video or some piece of evidence and it turned out to be a fake, I'm pretty certain they would get canned.

They certainly sensationalize pieces or might twist around the story behind a piece, but they cannot bring forth a completely fabricated piece of evidence and call it evidence. So you would never see a legitimate news journalist reporting on a hoax as if it were a real piece of evidence.


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Crystal G]
    #23618230 - 09/06/16 01:17 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Stop trying to ruin my fantasy. I want to believe that is Obama's momma and I want to bang her. :crankey:


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    #23619914 - 09/06/16 09:32 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Its so obvious mickel is pretending to be chick,look degenrate ellen show,cock on display in white pants,new world order,no more cash allowed only debit ,cc,revolution time,real talk,me ready,ape gene


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That's a pretty succinct summary of the whole Rosetta Stone.


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Great Scott]
    #23620030 - 09/06/16 09:58 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

is any pics of mickel obama in existence ,pregnant I meen,test tube? Odopted? Mikel has cock,says on grylis vido,and spek at chicenhawk ceremoney


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Its so obvious mickel is pretending to be chick,look degenrate ellen show,cock on display in white pants,new world order,no more cash allowed only debit ,cc,revolution time,real talk,me ready,ape gene




The fuck are you on and can I have some?


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Crystal G]
    #23620405 - 09/06/16 11:49 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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hahaha... where did yo come up with this bullshit?




That's one of the first things that's constantly and always taught in journalism schools. Any journalist will tell you that.





is it quickly followed by "disregard that because journalism has lost it's
integrity, you're all just gossiping bloggers so fucking deal with it"?

it's like an interview at McDonalds

Manager: "what do you say if a customer ask for a milk shake?"
Applicant: "sorry sir, the machine is broken"
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One of the unwritten rules of the internet is that you cannot fabricate or publish
evidence that is not real or authentic or all based on a lie.


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Crystal G]
    #23620409 - 09/06/16 11:51 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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By the way, here is a picture of Marcy Moore for comparison. I don't think it's her either, but it's important to post because many people can have similar faces







yeah but her tits are bigger and shaped differently and she doesnt look like the Obama Mamma


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yeah but her tits are bigger and shaped differently and she doesnt look like the Obama Mamma




You should look at this attorney who investigated the filmmaker's claims, that he had found Obama's mom in these magazines. He went through and located these exact magazine editions and found no such pictures of this mystery woman's pictures in existence in any of those magazines they claimed to have been sourced from.

It is therefore wise to exercise caution when believing something which the originator fails to provide an accurate source for. It is likely he doesn't want to provide the real source from where he lifted the pictures, because then people would find out that he is lying about the identity of the woman: http://barackryphal.blogspot.com/2012/10/fever-dreams-from-my-real-father-1-nude.html


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    #23620433 - 09/07/16 12:00 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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It is therefore wise to exercise caution when believing something which the originator fails to provide an accurate source for.






such as requiring me to ask a Urinalism student if they're obligated to be 100% truthful in the stories they print?


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    #23620441 - 09/07/16 12:04 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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such as requiring me to ask a Urinalism student if they're obligated to be 100% truthful in the stories they print?




Ethically-speaking, they are supposed to. I guarantee you any journalist working for any major news corporation that has a reputation and name to uphold, wouldn't tolerate the spreading of hoaxes presented as fact. If a journalist tried to pull that and it eventually came out that it was a hoax, they'd be fired.

Hence why no major newspaper ever covered the story about Obama's supposed porn star mother, because this would be exactly the type of shit tabloids and conservative news outlets would eat up and blast for ratings if it were indeed true.

Otherwise every photoshopped or doctored photo of some famous celebrity or politician in the nude or in a porno would be blasted all over the media. No, instead the media doesn't use this crap because the photos and evidence aren't authentic.


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Crystal G]
    #23620532 - 09/07/16 01:12 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

How they get they pussy so pink like that?


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    #23620541 - 09/07/16 01:17 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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That's just how these libertine commies roll. And it's hard to really know for sure where Obama is really from since the public record got destroyed/altered and replaced with forgery.



You are actually slowly making me want to vote for Hillary because you're such a presumptuous ass about it and I think you strongly reflect the average trump supporter. You know best and everyone else can fuck off.


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You're changing your vote based on PeyoteZen?  He's not even paying any rent living up in your head


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    #23620555 - 09/07/16 01:30 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

PeyoteZen said:
That's just how these libertine commies roll. And it's hard to really know for sure where Obama is really from since the public record got destroyed/altered and replaced with forgery.



You are actually slowly making me want to vote for Hillary because you're such a presumptuous ass about it and I think you strongly reflect the average trump supporter. You know best and everyone else can fuck off.



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I was never going to vote for trump in the first place but it's people like PZ  that makes me think trump supporters are generally as arrogant and bloodthirsty as trump is.


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Seriously_trippin said:
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That's just how these libertine commies roll. And it's hard to really know for sure where Obama is really from since the public record got destroyed/altered and replaced with forgery.



You are actually slowly making me want to vote for Hillary because you're such a presumptuous ass about it and I think you strongly reflect the average trump supporter. You know best and everyone else can fuck off.



Webster and Zen are counterpsyop and most likely reptilians



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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #23620564 - 09/07/16 01:34 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

You know what I hate about journalism?  That they act like it's objective.  I like the ones who go completely the opposite direction and insert their own commentary in their stoires to the point that it's more about that than what happened.  Because it seems like that's what happens anyway.  This whole thing with Obama and that fucktard who somehow ended up controlling a shitty country?  Who knows what the truth is.  I heard the expression Duterte used doesn't even directly translate to calling Obama that.  It's more of an outburst of frustration than a direct accusation.  Obama seems to have cancelled to meeting more because he didn't think Duterte and him would get anything done in the meeting.  So rather than waste his time, he cancelled it.  Everyone knows Duterte runs his mouth off.  The whole thing is pretty much a non-story imo.  If you can't grock the whole concept of media reporting on social faux-pas that arrises in culture clashes.. that it's really sensationalizing what is nothing more than a slight embarrassment, awkward moment, difference of values, language barrier, nationalism, political point making, etc etc then you deserve to wallow in your ignorance.

It's like if you're a school, and someone badgers you all day asking you what your opinion is of some other kid.  Eventually you say "fucking bastards, leave me alone."  Then they run off and tell that kid and the rest of the school that you called him a "fucking bastard."  And now you'd better meet after school to fight.  It's straight up manipulation.  You know what I did when kids tried to do that to me and another kid?  I just ignored it, and went home.  And once everyone realized there wasn't going to be fight, they were completely uninterested.  And everyone forgot about the whole thing promptly. 

So, can we forget about this made up BS story already?


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: falsereality]
    #23620629 - 09/07/16 03:00 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

"Son of a whore, I will curse you in that forum"

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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #23620905 - 09/07/16 06:31 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I was never going to vote for trump in the first place but it's people like PZ  that makes me think trump supporters are generally as arrogant and bloodthirsty as trump is.



Speaking on PZ's behalf, some of the "arrogance" that you may be sensing on PZ's part is actually just frustration. It's frustrating to try to remove the veil from people's minds when talking politics. PZ has been more or less the only one arguing his side of the argument in this thread. Meanwhile there are diehard establishment-democrat-types, such as Koods, who are actively lying and using smoke screen tactics to discredit what PZ is trying to explain, as well as uninformed voters who are siding with the democrats just cause. Its exhausting to be ganged up on, especially when the gang is just lying straight through their teeth. If you're seriously thinking of voting Clinton over trump to spit his adamant supporters, I hope you know that trump supporters are usually only so brazen because they feel like the truth they're trying to convey is being buried beneath a ton of misinformation, lies and misrepresentations. It's hard being a trump supporter. We're against establishment democrats, establishment republicans, liberals, the media, pop culture, foreign governments, billion-dollar companies and our current administration. Even though we know we'll end up winning in the end, convincing people to join our side is frustrating considering we're up against literally everyone else.


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #23620908 - 09/07/16 06:32 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

If you truly want a comprehensive convincing argument for trump over Clinton, send me a private message and I'd be glad to show you my perspective.


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Crystal G]
    #23620957 - 09/07/16 07:02 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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such as requiring me to ask a Urinalism student if they're obligated to be 100% truthful in the stories they print?




Ethically-speaking, they are supposed to. I guarantee you any journalist working for any major news corporation that has a reputation and name to uphold, wouldn't tolerate the spreading of hoaxes presented as fact. If a journalist tried to pull that and it eventually came out that it was a hoax, they'd be fired.

Hence why no major newspaper ever covered the story about Obama's supposed porn star mother, because this would be exactly the type of shit tabloids and conservative news outlets would eat up and blast for ratings if it were indeed true.

Otherwise every photoshopped or doctored photo of some famous celebrity or politician in the nude or in a porno would be blasted all over the media. No, instead the media doesn't use this crap because the photos and evidence aren't authentic.





you made up the thing about this 'unwritten rule of journalism'

or maybe you forgot, Jenkem, it was a hoax that was spread by the media and no one
lost their job, no one lost their job over the balloon boy and the woman that
supposedly had a 3rd boob installed or when it was reported that china is testing
out a special sidewalk lane for cell phone users. The Hitler Diaries, Manti Te'o's
dead girlfriend... all hoax stories and how many people lost their jobs over that
shit? none because you make this bullshit up

http://ajr.org/2015/04/03/news-sites-fall-for-fake-news/

http://www.businessinsider.com/ge-press-release-hoax-2011-4


how do most of these sources handle being taken for a ride? they ignore it,
pretend it never happened and hope people forget, a few will admit the fucked up
but most do not because they're the all powerful media

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/30699302/ns/technology_and_science-tech_and_gadgets/t/student-hoaxes-worlds-media-wikipedia/#.V9AQ2zWfKdo


so... just because you see a story on the news, no matter the source, it doesnt
make it true and just because a story isnt carried by the news, it doesnt make it
fake and making up bullshit and claiming it to be true doesnt lend you credibility


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23621009 - 09/07/16 07:26 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

"Unwritten rule of journalism" "ethically-speaking" :ilold:


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Webster10]
    #23621019 - 09/07/16 07:31 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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"Unwritten rule of journalism" "ethically-speaking" :ilold:





this is a victim of journalistic ethics, an example of the media pushing their race baiting agenda



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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23621053 - 09/07/16 07:45 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Anyone who believes in journalistic integrity is a dunce, plain and simple.


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Crystal G]
    #23621265 - 09/07/16 09:25 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Eh, don't be naive. I studied journalism myself and its true that we're taught to look into sources extensively, right from the beginning, but that doesn't mean people do that in practice. Dishonesty, sensationalism and lazy incompetence run rampant in the industry.




I'm sure that there are some smaller zines and blogs that have journalists doing lazy reporting. But if a reporter at a big news station like CNN or ABC or whatever failed to do research and brought forth a picture or a video or some piece of evidence and it turned out to be a fake, I'm pretty certain they would get canned.

They certainly sensationalize pieces or might twist around the story behind a piece, but they cannot bring forth a completely fabricated piece of evidence and call it evidence. So you would never see a legitimate news journalist reporting on a hoax as if it were a real piece of evidence.




I'm honestly not sure where your confidence of the media comes from

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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23621285 - 09/07/16 09:33 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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you made up the thing about this 'unwritten rule of journalism'

or maybe you forgot, Jenkem




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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #23622355 - 09/07/16 03:19 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I was never going to vote for trump in the first place but it's people like PZ  that makes me think trump supporters are generally as arrogant and bloodthirsty as trump is.




You're willing to vote for your own demise (IRL) all because of a simple internet grudge/clash of personality. You're even stupider than I thought. Congratulations on declaring your allegiance to the death and destruction of this country because you were butt hurt by a Trump supporter. Way to weigh the options and think critically and not let immature impulses control you civic involvement.


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Webster10]
    #23622631 - 09/07/16 04:33 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

No ,like I said I wouldn't have voted for trump for many reasons . My point was you call everyone dumbasses when they choose to vote for Hillary or even mention they like Hillary without you jumping down people's throats. Call them libtards and think your opinion is 100% correct and everyone else can go fuck off because we are just stupid.


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #23622650 - 09/07/16 04:38 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #23622710 - 09/07/16 04:55 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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No ,like I said I wouldn't have voted for trump for many reasons . My point was you call everyone dumbasses when they choose to vote for Hillary or even mention they like Hillary without you jumping down people's throats. Call them libtards and think your opinion is 100% correct and everyone else can go fuck off because we are just stupid.




If I was watching a dumbass about to put their hand in the fire, I might warn them, I might not. Maybe if they burn their stupid meat paw they will learn from that and not do it again. No huge tragedy there.

But when I see a dumbass walk up to an electrical fire talkin' bout they want to put it out with water, then it becomes my duty to let them know not to do that. And if they ignore the warning and remain adamant about it, citing a bunch of stupid shit about "YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND, FIRES NEED OXYGEN, WATER DEPRIVES OXYGEN, OMGZ ITS SO OBVIOUS, QUIT BEING A BIGOT"... Well then I have no choice but to call them a stupid fucking moron.

There's a lot of people living in this house, and it would be quite a tragedy to watch it go up in flames because of a bunch of dumbasses who refuse to use the fire extinguisher because they think fire extinguishers are too racist or some such retarded reasoning like that.


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23623456 - 09/07/16 07:53 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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you made up the thing about this 'unwritten rule of journalism'

or maybe you forgot, Jenkem, it was a hoax that was spread by the media and no one
lost their job, no one lost their job over the balloon boy and the woman that
supposedly had a 3rd boob installed or when it was reported that china is testing
out a special sidewalk lane for cell phone users. The Hitler Diaries, Manti Te'o's
dead girlfriend... all hoax stories and how many people lost their jobs over that
shit? none because you make this bullshit up

http://ajr.org/2015/04/03/news-sites-fall-for-fake-news/

http://www.businessinsider.com/ge-press-release-hoax-2011-4

how do most of these sources handle being taken for a ride? they ignore it,
pretend it never happened and hope people forget, a few will admit the fucked up
but most do not because they're the all powerful media

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/30699302/ns/technology_and_science-tech_and_gadgets/t/student-hoaxes-worlds-media-wikipedia/#.V9AQ2zWfKdo


so... just because you see a story on the news, no matter the source, it doesnt
make it true and just because a story isnt carried by the news, it doesnt make it
fake and making up bullshit and claiming it to be true doesnt lend you credibility




I stated previously that if they research the story thoroughly and everything comes up as genuine information AT THE TIME BEING, then it might still be used if they have reason at the time to believe it was real. This is what happened with jenkem, and also that "hero pig that saved a goat from drowning," which turned out to be a Nathan For You hoax that was posted onto YouTube.

With Trayvon Martin, none of that stuff was fabricated. They never used false evidence; Trayvon really was shot and killed by Zimmerman. That photo that you posted is a real photo of Zimmerman's mugshot, it's not doctored or photoshopped or altered or another actor that looks like him in the photo.


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Crystal G]
    #23623571 - 09/07/16 08:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

what a puss


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Crystal G] * 1
    #23623603 - 09/07/16 08:34 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Crystal G said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
you made up the thing about this 'unwritten rule of journalism'

or maybe you forgot, Jenkem, it was a hoax that was spread by the media and no one
lost their job, no one lost their job over the balloon boy and the woman that
supposedly had a 3rd boob installed or when it was reported that china is testing
out a special sidewalk lane for cell phone users. The Hitler Diaries, Manti Te'o's
dead girlfriend... all hoax stories and how many people lost their jobs over that
shit? none because you make this bullshit up

http://ajr.org/2015/04/03/news-sites-fall-for-fake-news/

http://www.businessinsider.com/ge-press-release-hoax-2011-4

how do most of these sources handle being taken for a ride? they ignore it,
pretend it never happened and hope people forget, a few will admit the fucked up
but most do not because they're the all powerful media

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/30699302/ns/technology_and_science-tech_and_gadgets/t/student-hoaxes-worlds-media-wikipedia/#.V9AQ2zWfKdo


so... just because you see a story on the news, no matter the source, it doesnt
make it true and just because a story isnt carried by the news, it doesnt make it
fake and making up bullshit and claiming it to be true doesnt lend you credibility




I stated previously that if they research the story thoroughly and everything comes up as genuine information AT THE TIME BEING, then it might still be used if they have reason at the time to believe it was real. This is what happened with jenkem, and also that "hero pig that saved a goat from drowning," which turned out to be a Nathan For You hoax that was posted onto YouTube.





you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about

who researched jenkem? no one, they saw a fake flyer for the broward county
sheriffs office posted on myspace or some shit and went wild with it

Quote:

With Trayvon Martin, none of that stuff was fabricated. They never used false evidence; Trayvon really was shot and killed by Zimmerman. That photo that you posted is a real photo of Zimmerman's mugshot, it's not doctored or photoshopped or altered or another actor that looks like him in the photo.





they pushed a narrative that zimmerman was a racist and killed martin because he
was black, they edited key pieces of the 911 calls out in order to push that
racist slant, it was absolutely fabricated in order to get more viewers and it
clearly worked, it also pushed it into another 'trial of the century' kinda play
which maintained that viewership, viewers that boost ad revenues


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Crystal G]
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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23623651 - 09/07/16 08:48 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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they pushed a narrative




That's the key piece Crystal G is unable to acknowledge. The media pushes narratives. It's not just their bread and butter, it's their government propaganda mandate.



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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Great Scott]
    #23623717 - 09/07/16 09:06 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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No ,like I said I wouldn't have voted for trump for many reasons . My point was you call everyone dumbasses when they choose to vote for Hillary or even mention they like Hillary without you jumping down people's throats. Call them libtards and think your opinion is 100% correct and everyone else can go fuck off because we are just stupid.




If I was watching a dumbass about to put their hand in the fire, I might warn them, I might not. Maybe if they burn their stupid meat paw they will learn from that and not do it again. No huge tragedy there.

But when I see a dumbass walk up to an electrical fire talkin' bout they want to put it out with water, then it becomes my duty to let them know not to do that. And if they ignore the warning and remain adamant about it, citing a bunch of stupid shit about "YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND, FIRES NEED OXYGEN, WATER DEPRIVES OXYGEN, OMGZ ITS SO OBVIOUS, QUIT BEING A BIGOT"... Well then I have no choice but to call them a stupid fucking moron.

There's a lot of people living in this house, and it would be quite a tragedy to watch it go up in flames because of a bunch of dumbasses who refuse to use the fire extinguisher because they think fire extinguishers are too racist or some such retarded reasoning like that.



That just tells me I was right to assume that you think you know best and everyone who doesn't think like you is a retard and will ruin America. That's arrogance. Personally I think either one would make this world go up in flames but trump has said so many deeply offensive things and I agree with little of his policies. And I think he's not cut out for diplomatic relations on a  global scale. And you have to know we will go to war with some country under his presidency.


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Great Scott]
    #23623719 - 09/07/16 09:07 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
they pushed a narrative




That's the key piece Crystal G is unable to acknowledge. The media pushes narratives. It's not just their bread and butter, it's their government propaganda mandate.





I never said they don't push narratives. I specifically said they slant news stories one way or another, however they don't use completely fabricated photos as evidence, if they have researched into it and uncovered that it was a hoax or an actor.

Otherwise all those porn flicks where some actor simply looks like a famous politician could be used as evidence in the media to discredit that politician and embarrass them.


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Crystal G]
    #23623802 - 09/07/16 09:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I guess you don't know anything about crisis actors then.


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Great Scott]
    #23623854 - 09/07/16 09:35 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Let me guess... you believe Sandy Hook was a false flag operation.


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Crystal G]
    #23623900 - 09/07/16 09:45 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Gun grab agenda.


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Crystal G]
    #23623909 - 09/07/16 09:48 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Crystal G said:
Quote:

PeyoteZen said:
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they pushed a narrative




That's the key piece Crystal G is unable to acknowledge. The media pushes narratives. It's not just their bread and butter, it's their government propaganda mandate.





I never said they don't push narratives. I specifically said they slant news stories one way or another, however they don't use completely fabricated photos as evidence, if they have researched into it and uncovered that it was a hoax or an actor.

Otherwise all those porn flicks where some actor simply looks like a famous politician could be used as evidence in the media to discredit that politician and embarrass them.





you still dont have a clue. I dont manufacture the steel but I form it into shape,
that's called fabricating metal. reporters dont always manufacture the story, the
certainly shape it to make you believe something, that's also called fabricating


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Great Scott]
    #23623914 - 09/07/16 09:49 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

And what guns did they end up grabbing after Sandy Hook?

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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23623921 - 09/07/16 09:50 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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you still dont have a clue. I dont manufacture the steel but I form it into shape,
that's called fabricating metal. reporters dont always manufacture the story, the
certainly shape it to make you believe something, that's also called fabricating




We're talking about using fabricated pieces of evidence to use in a story.

How they spin the story is not fabrication, that's interpretation.

If they used a completely fake story of some guy shooting some young teen, and it turned out that story never existed in the first place, that would be fabrication. If they were using doctored or photoshopped photos or photos of some young actors and using that in their news stories, that would be fabrication.

Seems you don't know the difference.


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Crystal G]
    #23623934 - 09/07/16 09:55 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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you still dont have a clue. I dont manufacture the steel but I form it into shape,
that's called fabricating metal. reporters dont always manufacture the story, the
certainly shape it to make you believe something, that's also called fabricating




We're talking about using fabricated pieces of evidence to use in a story.




which the media actually does do

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2016/07/26/mcauliffe-to-cnn-your-story-was-100-percent-wrong-n2198329

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How they spin the story is not fabrication, that's interpretation




how they spin is fabrication, how the reader takes it is interpretation


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If they used a completely fake story of some guy shooting some young teen, and it turned out that story never existed in the first place, that would be fabrication. If they were using doctored or photoshopped photos or photos of some young actors and using that in their news stories, that would be fabrication.

Seems you don't know the difference.





it seems you dont have a clue and like to apply very narrow definitions when it's convenient


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Crystal G]
    #23623941 - 09/07/16 09:57 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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And what guns did they end up grabbing after Sandy Hook?

Oh wait, none.




The slow march to tyranny. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_control_after_the_Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_shooting

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    #23623970 - 09/07/16 10:03 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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How they spin the story is not fabrication, that's interpretation.





Go back and watch this again. This newswoman reported that in the aftermath of the Milwaukee Riots, a black woman called for peace. And then they splice and diced the clip to make it seem that way, when in reality if you watch the unedited clip, the woman was calling for the black community to move their riots into someone else's neighborhood instead. Or am I interpreting this wrong?
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Why invent a story out of thin air and risk getting caught when you can take already existing stories and manipulate them to say the same thing, with less rick of being caught?
It's no wonder Obama and the rest of these CIA and Globalist-run psyop puppets want to do away with unregulated internet and have the UN monitor and control it from now on. That's what a major section of the TPP is about, by the way. The same TPP that Donald Trump wants to get rid of and Hillary Clinton wants to ratify.


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Great Scott]
    #23624153 - 09/07/16 10:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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And what guns did they end up grabbing after Sandy Hook?

Oh wait, none.




The slow march to tyranny. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_control_after_the_Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_shooting

Piecemeal, bit by bit, ever encroaching.





correlation is not causation


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23624223 - 09/07/16 11:03 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

It doesn't preclude it from being so, though.


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23624274 - 09/07/16 11:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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which the media actually does do

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2016/07/26/mcauliffe-to-cnn-your-story-was-100-percent-wrong-n2198329




There are actually two conflicting statements in that story.

First there's this

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"First of all the story's completely false," he said. "CNN got it 100 percent wrong and they owe me and apology. This man has never been under federal investigation. Your story was 100 percent wrong."

"Just tell your news get your facts right before you report them," he added.




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For what it's worth, McAuliffe's lawyer confirmed in May that the FBI is indeed investigating his client.




So this guy is just claiming that CNN got their story wrong, when in fact, the FBI is indeed investigating this guy.


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Great Scott]
    #23624280 - 09/07/16 11:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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It doesn't preclude it from being so, though.




in this instance and many others, it actually does


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Crystal G]
    #23624290 - 09/07/16 11:23 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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which the media actually does do

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2016/07/26/mcauliffe-to-cnn-your-story-was-100-percent-wrong-n2198329




There are actually two conflicting statements in that story.

First there's this

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"First of all the story's completely false," he said. "CNN got it 100 percent wrong and they owe me and apology. This man has never been under federal investigation. Your story was 100 percent wrong."

"Just tell your news get your facts right before you report them," he added.




Then there's this

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For what it's worth, McAuliffe's lawyer confirmed in May that the FBI is indeed investigating his client.




So this guy is just claiming that CNN got their story wrong, when in fact, the FBI is indeed investigating this guy.





and of course it's not as though the media isnt prone to fabricate stories


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Great Scott]
    #23624292 - 09/07/16 11:23 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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And what guns did they end up grabbing after Sandy Hook?

Oh wait, none.




The slow march to tyranny. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_control_after_the_Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_shooting

Piecemeal, bit by bit, ever encroaching.




Did you even read your link?

These laws were proposed, they weren't actually passed.

The only states that managed to pass stricter gun control measures were Connecticut, New York, and Maryland. And nowhere in there did they actively "take away" guns from citizens.

So, nice try.


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23624294 - 09/07/16 11:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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and of course it's not as though the media isnt prone to fabricate stories




They never fabricated any story about that man being under federal investigation, if in fact, he actually is under FBI investigation.


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Crystal G]
    #23624360 - 09/07/16 11:57 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Crystal G said:
And what guns did they end up grabbing after Sandy Hook?

Oh wait, none.




The slow march to tyranny. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_control_after_the_Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_shooting

Piecemeal, bit by bit, ever encroaching.




Did you even read your link?

These laws were proposed, they weren't actually passed.

The only states that managed to pass stricter gun control measures were Connecticut, New York, and Maryland. And nowhere in there did they actively "take away" guns from citizens.

So, nice try.




The gun grab agenda doesn't imply an immediate, full-on confiscatory measure. The 2nd amendment as well as armed insurrection are really the main things preventing such an extreme measure. That's the catch 22 that the gun grabbers are facing. Instead it's a slow process of chipping away toward their goal with more and more gun legislation, as well as trying to shape the public psyche toward less and less acceptance of having an armed citizenry in this country.

Check out this monumental turd


Do what every week? And why does he think people need to be brainwashed?


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Re: Obama cancels meeting after Philippines president calls him 'son of a whore' [Re: Crystal G]
    #23624399 - 09/08/16 12:15 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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and of course it's not as though the media isnt prone to fabricate stories




They never fabricated any story about that man being under federal investigation, if in fact, he actually is under FBI investigation.





is it any wonder that a friend of the clintons is under investigation by the FBI?


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