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Has the term "vato" become more derogatory or racist?
    #23616583 - 09/05/16 10:57 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I grew up in New England and the term vato stuck around until 2010. It's always meant homeboy or friend or buddy. I lived in the Midwest for five years so I never heard it for awhile.

My buddy says if I refer to him as vato then that's straight but if an angry stranger came at him, it's a terrible word to use. Buuuttt.. if someone in a calm manner said hey whats up vato I'll smoke you out then it's generally legit depending upon the person. But then to never say it at all in poverty stricken high crime areas or you get your white ass shot.

Has the term "vato" always been the "n" word, or has it grown into a derogatory as "wetb***" or "b***er".? What about those of you with darker skin who look Mexican? I bet that's really taking the piss.

Can a Mexican use "vato" against another person and have it be derogatory?


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Re: Has the term "vato" become more derogatory or racist? [Re: Adden]
    #23616597 - 09/05/16 11:02 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Just gotta use it right man.


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Re: Has the term "vato" become more derogatory or racist? [Re: fungusmuncher]
    #23616611 - 09/05/16 11:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Those Vatos.  Gangster:gangsta:


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Re: Has the term "vato" become more derogatory or racist? [Re: Adden]
    #23616612 - 09/05/16 11:13 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I don't know if it's racist but i think it's a stupid word because it just sounds dumb and nobody should ever use it.


i like the graem tho :vato:


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Re: Has the term "vato" become more derogatory or racist? [Re: RedBalloon]
    #23616615 - 09/05/16 11:13 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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RedBalloon said:
Those Vatos.  Gangster:gangsta:




Never met a vato who wasn't gangsta AF

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Re: Has the term "vato" become more derogatory or racist? [Re: Adden] * 1
    #23616616 - 09/05/16 11:14 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

when will you kids learn... everything is racist now


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Re: Has the term "vato" become more derogatory or racist? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23616618 - 09/05/16 11:15 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Hey what about down in the South? How bad is it to use there, or do you hear it a lot? There's a large Hispanic population here. I was mushroom picking and the dudes laying the mulch were calling each other vato and the last time they got some good pussy.


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Re: Has the term "vato" become more derogatory or racist? [Re: Adden]
    #23616619 - 09/05/16 11:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

WTF is a vato?


I've literally never heard it before. If I have irl it's gone over my head.


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Re: Has the term "vato" become more derogatory or racist? [Re: Adden] * 1
    #23616621 - 09/05/16 11:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Adden said:
Hey what about down in the South?






that's racist.

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Re: Has the term "vato" become more derogatory or racist? [Re: Adden]
    #23616639 - 09/05/16 11:36 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

1. que paso vato?
2. yo soy un vato loco

Because people see it as a threat as is projected the Hispanic population and it's culture breeds heavily due mainly to it's Catholic upbringing and large family, and extended family ties.

So it will be largely Blade Runner in the United States years from now. 

Vato, means shit, just like most of this culture in the United States and perspective will happen over time. White, political and lobbying dominance and the servants no matter what race you are that serve them.


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Re: Has the term "vato" become more derogatory or racist? [Re: timelapses]
    #23616665 - 09/05/16 11:58 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

nahhhhhh


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Re: Has the term "vato" become more derogatory or racist? [Re: timelapses]
    #23616699 - 09/06/16 12:18 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

pirate-blues said:
WTF is a vato?


I've literally never heard it before. If I have irl it's gone over my head.



Quote:

timelapses said:
1. que paso vato?
2. yo soy un vato loco

Because people see it as a threat as is projected the Hispanic population and it's culture breeds heavily due mainly to it's Catholic upbringing and large family, and extended family ties.

So it will be largely Blade Runner in the United States years from now. 

Vato, means shit, just like most of this culture in the United States and perspective will happen over time. White, political and lobbying dominance and the servants no matter what race you are that serve them.




interesting, i have lived in socal for 10 years and have never heard of it either.


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Re: Has the term "vato" become more derogatory or racist? [Re: ReposadoXochipilli]
    #23616702 - 09/06/16 12:21 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I've been called vato.  Who gives a shit?  It's meaningless to the larger picture.

Saying La Famila gets a lot more attention and not in a good way.


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Re: Has the term "vato" become more derogatory or racist? [Re: timelapses]
    #23616708 - 09/06/16 12:26 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

true, just interesting to learn something new.

what is this picture, this particular nugget of linguistic slang, or something larger that you deem things meaningful or without meaning? what is your picture about?


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Re: Has the term "vato" become more derogatory or racist? [Re: ReposadoXochipilli]
    #23616713 - 09/06/16 12:28 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

you hanging around the wrong people if that is a bad term to use. people say it all the time here, meaning family.

you some crazy gringo narco motherfucker or something?


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Re: Has the term "vato" become more derogatory or racist? [Re: ReposadoXochipilli]
    #23616736 - 09/06/16 12:50 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

With my buddy Wil and crew, it always meant family, but I knew him since I was a kid. But you never said it around someone's mother or aunt (or someone's sister if she was engaged), or at a family gathering. If I was the only white guy, I never got called gringo. If a Portuguese or Irishman called any dark skinned person "vato", then there would be problems. Usually it just meant my buddy or "my asshole friend but he's legit". Hard to put a meaning to it. Around the late 90s I don't think I ever really heard it much again, but I wasn't involved in Mexican/Hispanic culture any longer. Weird to see a word become derogatory and shitty to some people. That's kind of disappointing. But it's nice to see that the familial side remains.


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Re: Has the term "vato" become more derogatory or racist? [Re: Adden]
    #23616745 - 09/06/16 12:55 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

eh i meant the trouble saying la famila part, just didn't make sense because i am tired and stoned.

i had not heard of vato until now but la famila i hear nearly every day


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Re: Has the term "vato" become more derogatory or racist? [Re: Adden]
    #23616746 - 09/06/16 12:56 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I've only ever heard Mexicans use the phrase, but never in a derogatory way and not very often either.


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Re: Has the term "vato" become more derogatory or racist? [Re: abltsandwich]
    #23616979 - 09/06/16 04:21 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I grew up in southeastern CT, and never once heard the term VATO, and SECT is sooooooo new english.


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Re: Has the term "vato" become more derogatory or racist? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23617099 - 09/06/16 06:11 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

Adden said:
Hey what about down in the South?






that's racist.

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Re: Has the term "vato" become more derogatory or racist? [Re: Cosmic_Flame]
    #23617111 - 09/06/16 06:18 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

El Vat`os es loco en el sol.  Y tu loco vato :awesketch:


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Re: Has the term "vato" become more derogatory or racist? [Re: Adden]
    #23617347 - 09/06/16 07:55 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Adden said:
Hey what about down in the South? How bad is it to use there, or do you hear it a lot? There's a large Hispanic population here. I was mushroom picking and the dudes laying the mulch were calling each other vato and the last time they got some good pussy.



1st time in my life hearing vato and Im 34. Learn something new everyday I guess


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Re: Has the term "vato" become more derogatory or racist? [Re: Adden]
    #23617510 - 09/06/16 09:11 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I grew up in New England and the term vato stuck around until 2010. It's always meant homeboy or friend or buddy. I lived in the Midwest for five years so I never heard it for awhile.

My buddy says if I refer to him as vato then that's straight but if an angry stranger came at him, it's a terrible word to use. Buuuttt.. if someone in a calm manner said hey whats up vato I'll smoke you out then it's generally legit depending upon the person. But then to never say it at all in poverty stricken high crime areas or you get your white ass shot.

Has the term "vato" always been the "n" word, or has it grown into a derogatory as "wetb***" or "b***er".? What about those of you with darker skin who look Mexican? I bet that's really taking the piss.

Can a Mexican use "vato" against another person and have it be derogatory?



I speak Spanish. "Vato" has somewhat of a gangster connotation. It has a bit of an aggressive overtone when used by someone who isn't familiar. Among friends it is not offensive at all. It's like when black people call each other the N word with an A at the end, except it's not racist even outside the proper context. I think maybe it was used more 20+ years ago, now it's largely been replaced by "güey" (pronunced "way") except in the gangster subculture.


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