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tlvguy33
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Near breakthrough experience that scared the shit out of me
#23614280 - 09/05/16 10:11 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I had my first attempt today with a VG classic. Where have you been my whole life. Honestly don't know why I bothered with anything else (I guess GVG people would say that too, but it's illegal where I live, so the headshop can't get it through customs).
So, the trip itself - I took a big toke, left it inside for as long as I could. The floor tiles started changing in front of my eyes, everything started shaking and become watery. I had some experiences with Changa and DMT but none of them was even close, they were all nice and mild and mostly CEV oriented.
At this point, I knew I was in way too deep than what I'm used to. The colors turned very very bright (the room was pretty dark actually in reality). The flowers started changing patterns, the blue lamp went crazy. I was super scared and thought that I don't want to close my eyes when I fear so much. I also told myself that I should relax and go with the flow but I was so scared.
I thought "well, this is a powerful drug, it doesn't care if you want it or not - it'll take you if it decides to". Still scared. I don't know if not breaking through was the result of me being so reluctant to do so or just not taking enough, but I'm very happy I didn't go anywhere. All of these thought came rushing through my mind, not like I had time to think rationally.
When it was over 4-5 minutes later I was very relieved. I don't know if it means I'm not ready yet. I don't know if I can ever be ready.
Did you experience something similar? That crippling horror that makes you want to push the stop button? How do you relax yourself?
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Re: Near breakthrough experience that scared the shit out of me [Re: tlvguy33]
#23614322 - 09/05/16 10:23 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've never tried the DMT/changa combo but I've vaped DMT a few times. It's pretty much a catapult into a different realm. There's nothing gentle about it in my experiences. Everytime I vape it I can't help but have anxiety because I know there is no preparing myself for the experience. But at the end of every trip Im glad I took the dive. With smoked DMT there is no stop button. I've thought about taking a benzodiazipene before the trip but I don't like mixing substances.
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Mike4aco
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Re: Near breakthrough experience that scared the shit out of me [Re: BoomBoom]
#23614368 - 09/05/16 10:41 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I get that everytime I smoke DMT. Its not a crippling horror but more like an absolute reality for me
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dcthestar
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Re: Near breakthrough experience that scared the shit out of me [Re: Mike4aco] 3
#23614616 - 09/05/16 12:11 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have got to get some dmt lol
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Re: Near breakthrough experience that scared the shit out of me [Re: dcthestar] 2
#23614951 - 09/05/16 02:13 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I made a post about this one time. Those sub breakthroughs can be scary af. You'll get used to them. I describe dmt as "terrifyingly beautiful". Just let go, and observe. It's so cliche to say for dmt but it's the best way to put it.
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Re: Near breakthrough experience that scared the shit out of me [Re: Kinshino] 1
#23614976 - 09/05/16 02:26 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Threw out the last of my dmt last night during a shroom induced psychosis.
-------------------- “Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. Heres Tom with the Weather.” -Bill Hicks
 
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Re: Near breakthrough experience that scared the shit out of me [Re: Dim ethyl]
#23615088 - 09/05/16 03:16 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Noooooo!
It can get pretty overwhelming for sure, especially when you're at the point where you're about to breakthrough but never do. Its almost like a weird clash of reality and dreamland in a lack of better words. I still enjoy that state tho, Its where the most organic visuals come but without the real dissolution of your reality. I feel thats the point where I see alot of the different connections between everything and see the "machine workings" or whatever you call it that makes reality. Its so hard to explain haha.
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Re: Near breakthrough experience that scared the shit out of me [Re: SonicTitan]
#23615374 - 09/05/16 04:59 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Anyone wanna mail me a sample of DMT for science?
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Dim ethyl
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Re: Near breakthrough experience that scared the shit out of me [Re: dcthestar]
#23615455 - 09/05/16 05:22 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Patience young grass smoker. It finds you when you are ready do not rush it. Beware of false prophets
-------------------- “Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. Heres Tom with the Weather.” -Bill Hicks
 
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Re: Near breakthrough experience that scared the shit out of me [Re: Dim ethyl]
#23615500 - 09/05/16 05:34 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I waited 12 years before having the chance to experience it.
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dcthestar
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Re: Near breakthrough experience that scared the shit out of me [Re: Dim ethyl]
#23615526 - 09/05/16 05:41 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dim ethyl said: Patience young grass smoker. It finds you when you are ready do not rush it. Beware of false prophets
I know I've always viewed psychs that way... They always find me, but I'm highly intrigued by the deemster.
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Edited by dcthestar (09/05/16 05:41 PM)
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Re: Near breakthrough experience that scared the shit out of me [Re: Dim ethyl]
#23615568 - 09/05/16 05:50 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dim ethyl said: Threw out the last of my dmt last night during a shroom induced psychosis. 
Clearly not ready...
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Re: Near breakthrough experience that scared the shit out of me [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
#23616257 - 09/05/16 08:47 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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DMT gave me the worse trip of my life, as I closed my eyes I lost sensation of my heart and my breath and began to see a giant violet spinning mandala, at that point I opened my eyes due to uncomfortable body load/sensation heavy breathing and I didn't have any particular visuals, enhanced color and morphed slightly but my mind was lost in pure terror and anxiety, as I couldn't move it felt as if my body was set ablaze in fire, every cell in my body felt like it exploded and my soul was being tortured in a distant dimension but I was left to my conscious mind to experience total mind and body death, I looked up into the sky and said this is it, I've killed myself as I burned and scorched in a terrorizing agony of hell which was the most unpleasant experience of my life, in the middle of all that I got hit with the most serious urge to puke as well.
-------------------- "In The Material World One seeks retirement and grows Old In The Magical World One seeks Enlightenment and grows Wiser In The Miraculous World One seeks nothing and grows Lighter As we all tread the Homeward Path we will explore many Realms And one day... we will all Realize that all experiences are Simply Different ways in which The All-That Is Perceives Itself"
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Re: Near breakthrough experience that scared the shit out of me [Re: Eclipse3130]
#23616268 - 09/05/16 08:51 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Goddamn... What a bummer.
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Dim ethyl
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Re: Near breakthrough experience that scared the shit out of me [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
#23616459 - 09/05/16 10:05 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Duncan Rowhl said:
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Dim ethyl said: Threw out the last of my dmt last night during a shroom induced psychosis. 
Clearly not ready...
It would seem so. I feel like I'm getting closer, or maybe more lost? I don't know
-------------------- “Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. Heres Tom with the Weather.” -Bill Hicks
 
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Re: Near breakthrough experience that scared the shit out of me [Re: tlvguy33]
#23617583 - 09/06/16 09:41 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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From the way I hear it (still haven't done DMT myself) a lot of people right after they break through will instantly regret it and see it in the moment as the worst decision of their life. Usually as it's coming to and end though it seems like a lot of people don't want it to end and are grasping for it.
So apparently being absolutely terrified is normal. I don't really know why; doesn't really sound scary at all but I'll take people's word on it.
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Re: Near breakthrough experience that scared the shit out of me [Re: Eclipse3130]
#23617594 - 09/06/16 09:44 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Eclipse3130 said: in a terrorizing agony of hell which was the most unpleasant experience of my life, in the middle of all that I got hit with the most serious urge to puke as well.
Sounds like 5-MeO
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Re: Near breakthrough experience that scared the shit out of me [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
#23618245 - 09/06/16 01:21 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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It definitely felt like how one would describe 5 meo, but I'm pretty sure it was N N, or it was just impure and contained small traces of 5 meo/impurities, either way just a total experience of agonizing death
-------------------- "In The Material World One seeks retirement and grows Old In The Magical World One seeks Enlightenment and grows Wiser In The Miraculous World One seeks nothing and grows Lighter As we all tread the Homeward Path we will explore many Realms And one day... we will all Realize that all experiences are Simply Different ways in which The All-That Is Perceives Itself"
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Re: Near breakthrough experience that scared the shit out of me [Re: Eclipse3130]
#23618328 - 09/06/16 01:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I would describe it as riding the wave of a nuclear explosion but remaining conscious, total and utter death from vaporization, you come out of it with the most intense appreciation for life, since meeting death face to face, if all the suffering, agony and pain that ever existed resided in one dimension, this is the totality of the experience. (40mg smoked)
-------------------- "In The Material World One seeks retirement and grows Old In The Magical World One seeks Enlightenment and grows Wiser In The Miraculous World One seeks nothing and grows Lighter As we all tread the Homeward Path we will explore many Realms And one day... we will all Realize that all experiences are Simply Different ways in which The All-That Is Perceives Itself"
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Re: Near breakthrough experience that scared the shit out of me [Re: Dim ethyl]
#23618347 - 09/06/16 01:51 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dim ethyl said:
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Duncan Rowhl said:
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Dim ethyl said: Threw out the last of my dmt last night during a shroom induced psychosis. 
Clearly not ready...
It would seem so. I feel like I'm getting closer, or maybe more lost? I don't know
Let your very charming cat guide the way!
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