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Re: Evolution [Re: clock_of_omens]
    #23650945 - 09/16/16 04:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

After reading the article and a handful of links. I can see the value of it as a "what are the possibilities? What are the potentials? What questions should we be pursuing?", But stand alone, is pretty useless. It is incredibly misleading that this comes from a "research" facility. Should be called an inquiry institute.

Interesting stuff though. Makes me think, why wouldn't nature use the same blueprint for different things of this nature. Simplicity and efficiency.


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Re: Evolution [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #23652286 - 09/17/16 06:36 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

DividedQuantum said:
I just finished reading Tom Wolfe's new book, ...
Here's the quote:

Quote:

"There were five standard tests for a scientific hypothesis.  Had anyone observed the phenomenon -- in this case, Evolution --

as it occurred and recorded it? 

Could other scientists replicate it?  Could any of them come up with a set of facts that, if true, would contradict the theory (Karl Popper's "falsifiability" test)?  Could scientists make predictions based on it?  Did it illuminate hitherto unknown or baffling areas of science?  In the case of Evolution...well...no...no...no...no...and no."










"... as it occurred and recorded it? ..."

YES

and you can watch it here:

http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2016/09/a-cinematic-approach-to-drug-resistance/

"In a creative stroke inspired by Hollywood wizardry, scientists from Harvard Medical School and Technion-Israel Institute of Technology have designed a simple way to observe how bacteria move as they become impervious to drugs.

The experiments, described in the Sept. 9 issue of Science, are thought to provide the first large-scale glimpse of the maneuvers of bacteria as they encounter increasingly higher doses of antibiotics and adapt to survive — and thrive — in them.

To do so, the team constructed a 2-by-4 foot petri dish and filled it with 14 liters of agar, a seaweed-derived jellylike substance commonly used in labs to nourish organisms as they grow. ... The invention was borne out of the pedagogical necessity to teach evolution in a visually captivating way to students in a graduate course at HMS. The researchers adapted an idea from, of all places, Hollywood. ...."

video and rest of article at link above


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Re: Evolution [Re: laughingdog]
    #23654013 - 09/17/16 07:35 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Depends how you define evolution..:

If you mean change than obviously evolution is going on..

If you mean adaptation then likely its going on..

So like its pretty simple depending on the category that you consider evolution as:

Learning, and creating technology...like as in matter like computers and the internet...for example..

Also creating things that are a substance in the mind..like words and memes for example..

The total chaos of evolution is that we cant or dont have the understanding yet to define it completely..so we must say that evolution exists as a category in the mind obviously..that we can talk about it demonstrates this..

Other than that..the idea of order coming out of chaos..is likely novel..and thats a rate of change recorded by evolution it self..!!


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Re: Evolution [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #23654054 - 09/17/16 08:07 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Evolution seems inevitable in terms of entropy. As things increase their disorder, survival requires adaptability or simplicity. Either your requirements are basic enough to increase survivability in harsh times, or you are adaptable either individually, like humans and dolphins, or as a species, like the blow fly, and adapting through replication and generations, each generation being conditioned by its ever changing environment.

Either way though, environment is the antagonist. Which as stated is ever increasing its chaos. Our brains have definitely evolved into being more "clever" allowing us to create buildings and jobs and homes and allowing ourselves to, in a way, create snapshots of time, and repeatable rhythms that don't change. A means of controlling our environment and on a certain scale, decrease the rate of entropy in our lives by creating and clutching to stability. This I see as and evolution of the brain through generations because physically we're to squishy to endure, and we are to complex to just easily cope with the changes.


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