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kaste
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How do you feel about death?
#23614675 - 09/05/16 12:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I mean how do you really feel about death? Do you believe in a soul? Afterlife? Extra dimensional existence post-mortem? Does it scare you or bring peace of mind?
I myself believe that there is nothing more than this one life. Minus the possibility of it all being a simulation and atoms rearranging themselves in exactly the same configuration in an infinite universe. Since ego death I don't get too clingy about things, being alive included. That is not to say I don't love being alive.
Where do you stand?
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Re: How do you feel about death? [Re: kaste] 1
#23614679 - 09/05/16 12:32 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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death will come when it comes. I choose not to spend my time worrying about what may or may not come after it, but instead on making the time that I do have here as meaningful as I can.
If there is nothing after, then at least I will have made a good go of the time I had. if there is some sort of an afterlife then I will have some damn good stories to share. its a win win really.
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Re: How do you feel about death? [Re: kaste]
#23614684 - 09/05/16 12:35 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I feel pretty good knowing we all get to live everyone's life once. Because the universe is fair. So one day I'll be Hitler and in another life I'll be Ghandi, and in another I'll be Trump, and in another i'll be your dog and so on.
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Re: How do you feel about death? [Re: kaste]
#23614695 - 09/05/16 12:40 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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pretty dank bro
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Re: How do you feel about death? [Re: trees]
#23614703 - 09/05/16 12:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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trees said: I feel pretty good knowing we all get to live everyone's life once. Because the universe is fair. So one say I'll be Hitler and in another life I'll be Ghandi, and in another I'll be Trump, and in another i'll be your dog and so on.
On what do you base your belief?
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I mean how do you really feel about death?
I feel like it is inevitable/inescapable/definite, so one might as well enjoy the time here and make the most of it.
Do you believe in a soul?
I am not sure, but my rule is, just be good.
Afterlife?
Not sure about that either, nobody truly knows until they expire.
Extra dimensional existence post-mortem?
Don't know, not sure, useless for me to speculate, don't waste time on it because I'm busy living my life!
Does it scare you or bring peace of mind?
Not scared by it, nor does it bring peace of mind.
P.S. scared and sacred have the same letters, like santa and satan! LOL!
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death is a sacred honor that i wish i was ready for.
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Re: How do you feel about death? [Re: kaste]
#23614719 - 09/05/16 12:45 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Cause its the most logical way in my mind.
It'd be unfair if you only get one life of pure suffering.
Why would the universe or god be unfair?
So to make things fair, we all get to experience each life once. The best ones and the worst ones, and all the inbetweens. In the Infinite span of 'time', theres room for that sorta thing.
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sanchothestoner said: death is a scared honor that i wish i was ready for.
Scared or sacred? LOL!
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Re: How do you feel about death? [Re: kaste]
#23614727 - 09/05/16 12:50 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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When I die, the world ends.
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Re: How do you feel about death? [Re: trees]
#23614729 - 09/05/16 12:50 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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trees said: Cause its the most logical way in my mind.
It'd be unfair if you only get one life of pure suffering.
Why would the universe or god be unfair?
So to make things fair, we all get to experience each life once. The best ones and the worst ones. In the Infinite span of 'time', theres room for that sorta thing.
It kind of doesn't make sense not being able to remember your past lives in terms of fairness.
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Re: How do you feel about death? [Re: kaste]
#23614731 - 09/05/16 12:51 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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What if I told you there were a way to remember?
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Re: How do you feel about death? [Re: kaste]
#23614735 - 09/05/16 12:52 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I do believe that we go on, and that it happens when it happens. Doesn't make it any easier when the ones we love go.....particularly when they go young and/or in a tragic way. I believe what I believe because I've experienced it.
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Dark_Star said: Yeah, this was a heroin overdose. I'd had drug overdoses before, but nothing like this. I'd stopped using for a couple weeks or so, because of this girl that I was real into at the time. She decided she wanted a week to herself to figure things out. Needless to say, as a junkie I saw this as a greenlight to rage. I figured I'd just snort it, and somehow that would OK. Junkie logic, LOL. This stuff wasn't that good, I had a tolerance, and I was hoovering piles of it up my schnozz. This went on for a few day. One the last day I went to pick up & they only had two bags left, different stuff this time. So I figured fuck it, grabbed a needle & IV'd them both. This dope was actually real good, and it was highly reminiscent of the first time I shot up. That rush wiped out all other thoughts, and it was on. I told them to contact me as soon as they were back around with more.
Later that evening they did. I was working in a restaurant, and I left work early that night to continue the party. I picked them up, went home where my works were & shot another 2.5 bags...I was stumbling cause the rush was so strong. Heroin rushes are incredibly powerful, but I could get a hell of rush, and still walk straight. I was no newb to this shit, but damn if I wasn't falling into walls when it hit this time. Drove them back to their place, and they went to shoot up. I was so fucking high that I could barely keep my eyes open, but the thing about IVing drugs is that you stop chasing the high & start chasing the rush. I wanted another rush. If you shoot too close together, you don't get that rush, so I figured that I'd put the rest of my dope into the syringe, shoot half, then wait & see if the rush kicks in. If not, shoot the rest. There were multiple problems with that logic, but I didn't even follow through with that plan; I just shot it all. 
I stood up to sterilize the syringe, and the rush hit me so hard that I fell back down into the recliner I'd been sitting in. There was a split second of "Whooaa.....it's never been like this before" and then my last memory before I lost consciousness was trying to take a breath, and failing. Next thing I knew, I was gone. The place I was in was bright & beautiful. I remember white light everywhere, and I also remember that there was more to it than just the light. My memory of this is extremely hazy, but I seem to recall the setting being a beautiful garden, and there was an archway. I felt a serenity & peace that I hadn't felt in a very long time. I had come home, and everything was OK. I cannot begin to express the sense of relief that had come to soothe my tortured soul. The warmth opiated bliss of heroin couldn't touch the way that I was feeling, and hadn't really provided much in the way of real relief in a while anyway.
One thing I knew was that I never wanted to leave this place. The thing is, I wasn't alone. My companions in this place expressed some concern as to my presence. They made it known that I wasn't supposed to be there....it wasn't my time. I expressed to them that I didn't want to go, but they were adamant. They also asked me what I was doing, and told me that I had work to do, and that I was on a very wrong path; to get my shit together. This was all expressed telepathically; primarily through feeling...and the sense of serenity & love remained. There was no hostility, just loving concern. I still didn't want to leave, but again was reminded that it wasn't my time.
At this moment I jolted upright with a giant gasp of air. I continued to gasp for breath for a few moments. The people I was getting high with were over top of me, screaming, hitting me, shaking me, etc.... I was like "what the fuck? You're killing my high. " They told me that after I collapsed into the recliner I went completely white, rolled up in a ball, made a small gurgling sound, and then stopped breathing. I was completely unresponsive, had no vital signs. They slapped me, shook me, screamed in my ear, and there was nothing....then I came back with that jolt.
I have no idea how long I was out for. It couldn't have been long though. I do know that I was completely unaware of this reality/life, and I couldn't hear the people in that room. I just knew of the place I was, and my companions there. I call them companions because I don't know what they were. It was a very vivid experience though. I wish that I could remember it more clearly, but it I also feel that it was the kind of thing that in it's very nature will never fully translate in my mind here. I've also had many opiate nod dreams before...countless times. I was an opiate addict for almost a decade. This was different then a nod dream.
I had a very dicey few hours after that, going in & out, but never being allowed to nod out completely; the people were watching me like a hawk. I then drove to another friend's house....nodding the whole way   , and he about shit when he saw me....told me that I looked as though I'd crawled out of a grave, and asked me what had happened. He wasn't all that surprised when I told him.
I didn't get my shit together right away, and didn't keep together when I did. Took over a year after that experience to finally clean up my act & start getting better. That experience sticks in my mind though, and inspires me when I'm feeling down. I've made a lot of changes & progress in my life, with my reasoning being the content of that experience. "Your work is not done." That's some seriously powerful shit to hear when you're that close to being gone for good. It's definitely had a profound effect on me.
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Re: How do you feel about death? [Re: kaste]
#23614743 - 09/05/16 12:54 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Remembering past lives wouldn't make sense. Because the physical brain and memory is separate from your previous ones.
I'd say it's fair if youre living a wonderful blissful painless life knowing that you will have to endure a life of suffering sometime after your current one.
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Re: How do you feel about death? [Re: Dark_Star]
#23614762 - 09/05/16 01:05 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Not to demean your experience in any way, but have you considered it to be the work of the brain, no matter how vivid the experience?
P.S. Glad you're with us.
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Re: How do you feel about death? [Re: trees]
#23614774 - 09/05/16 01:10 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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trees said: Remembering past lives wouldn't make sense. Because the physical brain and memory is separate from your previous ones.
I'd say it's fair if youre living a wonderful blissful painless life knowing that you will have to endure a life of suffering sometime after your current one.
This imposed mechanism doesn't speak to me (at least in the common terms humans use). What did bring you to this view?
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Re: How do you feel about death? [Re: kaste]
#23614801 - 09/05/16 01:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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kaste said:
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trees said: Remembering past lives wouldn't make sense. Because the physical brain and memory is separate from your previous ones.
I'd say it's fair if youre living a wonderful blissful painless life knowing that you will have to endure a life of suffering sometime after your current one.
This imposed mechanism doesn't speak to me (at least in the common terms humans use). What did bring you to this view?
Ive thought about death alot, had lots of ideas about it, and this is my current theory.
Seems to me like if there was a reason for us living cellular beings to experience stuff, why not have us experience all of it.
Imo, to think that we each only have 1 life, and theres nothing beyond it is like lazy assumption.
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Re: How do you feel about death? [Re: kaste]
#23614813 - 09/05/16 01:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't believe in souls or afterlife, I personally think we just stop existing at death, I don't mind the thought of dying or not existing because I already feel like I didn't before my birth, it's just the thought of the pain that is almost always associated with death that is somewhat scary to me and what I don't want to go through.
Even if there is something else beyond this life, I don't think I'll ever have memory of this life again and it'll be like I'm starting new so I don't really give it much thought or think it's even worth thinking about.
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Re: How do you feel about death? [Re: kaste] 1
#23614819 - 09/05/16 01:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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No, this was something different. I take it as what it appeared to be; death's door & being sent back. Doing so has profoundly impacted me. For one, I didn't get clean at that time. I did kinda I guess, but for different reasons & it didn't last. Had a relapse after that lasted a year. That relapse led me to a crossroads; kill myself & get it over with, or get help & fight for a different life. I was tired of dealing with this shit, and did not believe I'd ever be happy again. That NDE is why I chose to get help & fight. And lo & behold, I got better & did find happiness. So taking the experience at face value literally saved my life down the road. Also, being told I had work to do....when I did clean up my act & decided to go back to school, I thought back to this. I didn't & don't believe I was sent back just to fuck around. So I decided that what I did with my life needed to revolve around helping others. So I'm now a healthcare professional in pediatrics, and I positively impact the lives of sick, delayed & injured children from all over world. This is because I took/take that NDE at face value.
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Re: How do you feel about death? [Re: Dark_Star]
#23614838 - 09/05/16 01:34 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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There is no death. It's a loop. The record is skipping. It's an endless loop a, flat circle
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