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amidogen
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Re: stages of mycelial pinning [Re: Troll Bot]
#23612413 - 09/04/16 07:27 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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xPTxHIPPIe
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Re: stages of mycelial pinning [Re: amidogen]
#23612454 - 09/04/16 07:39 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Lol this is funny i read through the whole post and i have a question my enrollment in college date.... Ummm how long before most people graduate from shroomery university. I hate being new lol i just was eat my shit and trip but i just started agar....
In other words how long from when you started growing or agar before you got some cubes worth eating...
Edited by xPTxHIPPIe (09/04/16 07:54 PM)
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Inocuole
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Re: stages of mycelial pinning [Re: Troll Bot]
#23612502 - 09/04/16 07:59 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Foamy said: heres a foundation for you, tell me how this applies to cultivation:
Most biological membranes are more permeable to water than to ions or other solutes, and water moves across them by osmosis from a solution of lower solute concentration to one of higher solute concentration. Animal cells swell or shrink when placed in hypotonic or hypertonic solutions, respectively.
The only thing that this applies to in regards to cultivation is that dunking or misting with distilled water can leech nutrients and/or cause some small amounts of cellular death. I really don't understand what you're trying to do here though, unless of course I was right and you're trolling. You do still fall perfectly within the descriptors for that.
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Re: stages of mycelial pinning *DELETED* [Re: Inocuole]
#23612521 - 09/04/16 08:04 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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circles
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Re: stages of mycelial pinning [Re: Troll Bot]
#23612667 - 09/04/16 08:40 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Foamy said: I feel like you're the one who is trolling
Humidity and osmosis
and I feel like you are the lonely type who does think that no one is really taking notice of him/her. To get temporary relief from this introverted assumption you create strong reactions towards yourself. Using the anonymity of a forum like this gives you the security to do so without further consequences. Let me tell you that this behavior doesn't help you in the long run.
Stop creating drama. Start creating mushrooms. Enjoy.
and regarding your question:
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heres a foundation for you, tell me how this applies to cultivation:
Most biological membranes are more permeable to water than to ions or other solutes, and water moves across them by osmosis from a solution of lower solute concentration to one of higher solute concentration. Animal cells swell or shrink when placed in hypotonic or hypertonic solutions, respectively.
I think it got answered in this thread
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23612332
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Inocuole
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Re: stages of mycelial pinning [Re: circles]
#23612825 - 09/04/16 09:24 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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circles said: I think it got answered in this thread
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23612332
What's said in that post by OP, is shockingly, incorrect. Mycelium uses active transport to move water around, it doesn't have to rely on passive osmosis. Misting fruits doesn't cause them to grow. The substrate drinking up water and pumping it into the fruits is what causes them to grow. That and cell division, anyway.
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Re: stages of mycelial pinning [Re: Inocuole]
#23612854 - 09/04/16 09:35 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well, his title does say Naive. You are making this too easy OP. Listen man, just do yourself a favor at this point and just clam up about anything cultivation related. Find a tek using the forum search engine and repeat said tek over and over again until you've mastered it with repeatable results. Coming here and claiming to know everything about everything is only going to get you grief from respected users, especially when everything you're saying is complete shit coming outcha commode hole.
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circles
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Re: stages of mycelial pinning [Re: Mushierage]
#23613277 - 09/05/16 12:03 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Inocuole said:
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circles said: I think it got answered in this thread
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23612332
What's said in that post by OP, is shockingly, incorrect. Mycelium uses active transport to move water around, it doesn't have to rely on passive osmosis. Misting fruits doesn't cause them to grow. The substrate drinking up water and pumping it into the fruits is what causes them to grow. That and cell division, anyway.
Yes, true water vapor / humidity won't get absorbed through osmosis, but subsequently the misting keeps the substrate moist and water sprayed in the FC will get absorbed.
Yes, mycelium does pump water actively around through molecular motors in the cell walls and the mycelium doesn't rely on passive water transport, but the turgor pressure created by osmosis does play a role in the grows of the hypha by causing the mass flow of cytoplasm from the basal mycelial network towards the expanding hyphal tips at the colony edge.
Well I said "sort of" in my answer meaning osmosis does promote growth, Its not the type of question to be answered in a couple of sentences anyway. My answer was an approximation to the topic, as I didn't see a reason to explain it in detail. I will correct this by leaving a link to a research paper on this to leave proper information for the OP and other people.
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Boogieman47
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Re: stages of mycelial pinning [Re: circles]
#23613332 - 09/05/16 12:20 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I had a friend who went on this elaborate journey to all these places to trip on his way from Peru be went to Mexico and ate bad mescaline or way too much he literally has to be babysat and carries a rattle they made from an antler ... point is he asks questions like op
Edited by Boogieman47 (09/05/16 12:21 AM)
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mrmazdarx9
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Re: stages of mycelial pinning [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23614309 - 09/05/16 10:20 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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So I gave op a chance for me to take him seriously and I guess I'm on ignore but just in case one last chance to prove your not trolling here's my questions
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mrmazdarx9 said:
Foamy said: I'm not a troll
We'll see
Foamy said: I have a single Brf cake colonized and in a pineapple jar with some holes in it (SGFC)
Its not even close to a sgfc no perlite does it have a lid holes in lid and bottom
Foamy said: Its by a stream waiting for pin formation.
Massive contamination risk not even a risk a definate if the slugs and other shit done get it first
Foamy said: Once the fruits develop and are veiled I'll post a picture.
Can't wait
Foamy said: There is constant gas exchange by this stream and my experiment is there is no need to mist or do anything else.
This sounds trollish Gas exchange is for colonising not fruiting you mean FAE also no need for misting and fanning why? Is it in the water if so fail otherwise how's it not gonna dry out if its staying damp it'll mold up and die I'm giving you help and a chance either throw it back in my face and prove your trolling or give me good feed back on the advice I just gave you also let's see a picture of this cake and where your attempting to fruit it you'd be better burying it and casing it as its way too open to the elements (lol on the elements)
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Re: stages of mycelial pinning [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23614316 - 09/05/16 10:21 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I wouldn't bother, OP clearly isn't interested in being right, they're more about being a special snowflake.
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Mushierage
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Re: stages of mycelial pinning [Re: Boogieman47]
#23614317 - 09/05/16 10:21 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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noob47 said: I had a friend who went on this elaborate journey to all these places to trip on his way from Peru be went to Mexico and ate bad mescaline or way too much he literally has to be babysat and carries a rattle they made from an antler ... point is he asks questions like op
The spirits must've punished him. Just like they are going to punish this naive baby man child.
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mrmazdarx9
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Re: stages of mycelial pinning [Re: Inocuole]
#23614325 - 09/05/16 10:24 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: I wouldn't bother, OP clearly isn't interested in being right, they're more about being a special snowflake.
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