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Peaceful is the one... * 2
    #23613907 - 09/05/16 07:10 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Peaceful is the one who's not concerned with having more or less. ~ Rumi

Sure, but with that attitude he will never get the great job, nice house, hot wife and so forth - but he will certainly be peaceful - while panhandling.


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23614045 - 09/05/16 08:09 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Do a nice house, good job, hot wife, ensure peace though?
I have met drifters, roaming for 20 years with little possessions that were happy and living well by their choice of standards.


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"I found I could say things with color and shapes that I couldn't say any other way - things I had no words for"  - Georgia O'Keefe

I think the word is vagina


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: nuentoter]
    #23614095 - 09/05/16 08:31 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

False dilemma followed by an anecdote.

Try again.


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23614114 - 09/05/16 08:42 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Only a response to projection.


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: nuentoter]
    #23614157 - 09/05/16 09:06 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I have met drifters, roaming for 20 years with little possessions that were totally fucking miserable and living in hell by their choice of standards.




Hey - "debate" sure is fun! :cookiemonster:


https://www.fastcoexist.com/1679633/the-world-happiness-report-explains-what-makes-people-happy

Top 3 keys to happiness: Wealth, spouse, job. No surprise to this poster.


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23614218 - 09/05/16 09:48 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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OrgoneConclusion said:
Quote:

I have met drifters, roaming for 20 years with little possessions that were totally fucking miserable and living in hell by their choice of standards.




Hey - "debate" sure is fun! :cookiemonster:


https://www.fastcoexist.com/1679633/the-world-happiness-report-explains-what-makes-people-happy

Top 3 keys to happiness: Wealth, spouse, job. No surprise to this poster.




Lousy example. Have you looked at the report? The report is  full of ambiguity. One of Jeffery Sachs
heroes has to be Hari Seldon. Economic professors publishing Psycho-sociology isn't science, just because it has numbers in it doesn't mean thing.


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: falcon] * 3
    #23616645 - 09/05/16 11:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah I bet that report is horseshit. 'Normal' people are brought happiness by big houses, big TV's, hot wives, etc.

Last I checked, I'm pretty damn far from normal, as I bet most people that used this forum are.

When you've visited the ethereal realms of psychedelics a bunch of times in your life, you begin to realise that most of what the world thinks, likes and does is absolutely fucking retarded.

I'm with nuentoter on this one.


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23616890 - 09/06/16 02:52 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Peaceful is the mind that has not want. But who doesn't


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: OrgoneConclusion] * 3
    #23617011 - 09/06/16 05:09 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Peaceful is the one who's not concerned with having more or less. ~ Rumi

Content with what you have. Not using another as the measuring stick to your own personal life.

Some people may be happy with the marble floors mansion, the Ferrari, hot wife that loves sticking Dick. Not saying those things aren't awesome. But the lifestyle has little appeal to me. Would i like a mansion? It'd b cool for awhile I bet, but no, I prefer something less showy, somewhere that I'm not afraid to let my kids run in and spill shit and break things. Somewhere I can clean easily, without hirelings, I can do my own landscaping and lawn care. I don't want a Ferrari, I want an 80's beat up pick up truck that I don't care if i bring in the woods and scratch up. Do I want the hot wife that craves Dick flavor? Probably fun for awhile, but I would prefer someone I can make a true emotional connection with, that shares my morals isn't complacently accepting of whatever I say. I want the strife, the small argument, these are challenge, signs of humanity.

I feel bad in a way for the one who does believe money buys happiness, that happiness is real but shallow and doesn't come from within, it is laid out on the surface like a fresh paint job on a broken car, looks nice in the driveway but gets you no where.


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: nuentoter]
    #23617086 - 09/06/16 06:05 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I don't know. Money buys a waver runner. No one can be not happy on one of those. Having nice things are just nice things. Everyone would love to live and spend more money in day then thet make in a year. As for the sexy times with the hot wife vs the ugly women? Doesn't matter the hotter the women the more effort you have to make. There are happy memories but in the moments of life there is no real happiness.


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: tump]
    #23617106 - 09/06/16 06:15 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

STAL.

nuentoter has this shit locked down.


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23617233 - 09/06/16 07:17 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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OrgoneConclusion said:
Peaceful is the one who's not concerned with having more or less. ~ Rumi

Sure, but with that attitude he will never get the great job, nice house, hot wife and so forth - but he will certainly be peaceful - while panhandling.




I am a peaceful rumi poetry lover with a nice house and hot wife  --- they are both very small however


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23617340 - 09/06/16 07:52 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Can you stand upright?


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23617501 - 09/06/16 09:08 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Where there's a will there's a way.


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23617507 - 09/06/16 09:09 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

<--- gets the joke

FYI not wanting something does not preclude one from getting that something

i dont want to be sick but sometimes i get sick

unless you buy into "the secret" that in order to get something you have to really want that something
then I don't know what to tell ya


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: Kickle]
    #23617590 - 09/06/16 09:43 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Not striving or desiring = stagnation. That is not a human's (nor any other creature's) lot in life.


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23617610 - 09/06/16 09:49 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I think a quote by Morris Berman is apropos:

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I saw Americans as being miserable because they had bought into a definition of success called the American Dream, which consisted of hustling, competing, getting ahead, and pursuing wealth or fame.  And I knew that real success was a very different thing: it consisted in the relationship you had with yourself.  As John Ruskin once put it, "There is no wealth but life."  If you let yourself be defined from the outside, it will eventually make you sick.  Unfortunately, this is what most Americans have chosen to do.




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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #23617616 - 09/06/16 09:53 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Uh huh. How do you pay your bills, DQ?


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23617627 - 09/06/16 09:57 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

There is nothing in that quotation that precludes making a living and having some money.  It points out the emptiness in the insatiable drive to acquire excesses of money and fame.


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #23617633 - 09/06/16 10:00 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Education/mating/job hunting/promotions; etc., ALL require competition. There is no way around that.


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: OrgoneConclusion] * 1
    #23617845 - 09/06/16 11:21 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

But are the good job the nice car etc., The means or the end. If it is the goal, then from my personal view that is almost a shame for the lost potential. A steady paycheck, someone to talk to and share time and sex with, a reliable vehicle are the means to the end goal of the job being fulfilling on a moral level and adequate on a financial level, enjoyable on a social level. A vehicle that fits 2 car seats and groceries and starts and heats well at -45 mornings. A wife that loves and respects and accepts me for myself, or is willing to learn and try, as I do with her. 2 boys who can grow up working hard, understanding the importance of self sufficiency, and understand empathy and stoicism of morals.

These are my ends, my goals. The finances help grease the wheels of all this, but I have adjusted my lifestyle and expenses to fit my course of career. The job is more important to me than the paycheck, the paycheck simply allows me to feed, clothe, house family, it is not the focus or purpose. In 2 more years my income will increase 3 fold and things will be easier financially, but we do not struggle, we simply do not waste.

If your goals are simply superficial and financial or expressions of vanity, you are selling your own potential short. Maybe not even realizing it.


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I think the word is vagina


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23618003 - 09/06/16 12:19 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Not striving or desiring = stagnation. That is not a human's (nor any other creature's) lot in life.




agreed. but one need not strive to have more or less drive than what is naturally there. aka one need not push when there is already a force pushing.

IMO not striving or desiring is impossible and anyone attempting to do so is "striving for less" which the original quote warned against


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23619547 - 09/06/16 08:05 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Uh huh. How do you pay your bills, DQ?



Why do you keep defaulting to this?


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23619696 - 09/06/16 08:44 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Because life is an incredible struggle; not a weekend on the beach drinking Corona.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starvation

Perhaps these children should just read and understand Rumi.


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23619708 - 09/06/16 08:48 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah but it's just making you come off bitter man. Is a middle ground not possible IYO?


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 2
    #23619731 - 09/06/16 08:55 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

OP If they are your measures of success then you will never be truly happy and forever burdened.


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: pineninja]
    #23619757 - 09/06/16 09:01 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Amen to that.


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: pineninja]
    #23619817 - 09/06/16 09:15 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

lol..as Rumi I have this to say:

Take Great Heed in your original steps...which are platforms to eternity and Beyond..the completion of everything is Boundless..and thats where fire begins and ends..which is a Blaspheming atonement..for the One none other than God..or otherwise Allah..because Fire is burning black..we have Ice..and in this do we know each other..as a High Life..or living life..full energy cell.
And in the photons do we speak to each other like waves of fire...we are on an ever progressing Caravan..and thats fire so to speak..because of the movement..and Ice is the concept of stillness..or things that will always be here..as a necessity..this is alchemy..of mind and spirit..which goes along great with classical conversation..which is a Lord to the Brute indeed..and thats the end of this Gay Inuendo..I heard rumi was Gay anyways..maybe he smoked to much hash and wa


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23620156 - 09/06/16 10:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Yeah but it's just making you come off bitter man. Is a middle ground not possible IYO?




You are about to make a major life change because you want more of some things and less of others. True or false?


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: OrgoneConclusion] * 2
    #23620188 - 09/06/16 10:33 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I'm doing it because I'm trying to find the middle ground, where inner peace lies. And I'm damn sure it's got nothing to do with having anything in excess. It's got nothing to do with having a 'great job, nice house, hot wife'.

I'm going somewhere quiet so that I can learn to just be at peace with me, and have little more than the bare essentials for survival.

I had the 'great job, nice house, hot wife' - only when they were taken away from me did I realise that they were just leading me away from myself, and thus, inner peace. The change in direction is internal, but of course the manifestations of that change only appear external to everyone else.


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23620201 - 09/06/16 10:39 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

It was a true or false question.


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: OrgoneConclusion] * 1
    #23620242 - 09/06/16 10:54 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I want more of less and less of more. More or less. I would answer true if it asked of me.
Insert abuse because it wasn't directed at me below.


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: pineninja]
    #23620281 - 09/06/16 11:04 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

True. But the eventual aim is that I want to be not concerned with having more or less. I just want to be.


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23620355 - 09/06/16 11:29 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Interesting that you actually agree with me about the quote, yet rationalize your attack.

As to me being bitter or not - that is a poor example from a mod. Should we all assess the poster rather than debate points?


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23620382 - 09/06/16 11:41 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I'm not calling you bitter. I'm saying that you sticking doggedly to that position is making you sound (come of as) bitter. So it is the argument and not the poster I am addressing. It was not an attack, it was an observation.

You know how I feel OC, we've both had the same calling. I just feel like I'm dealing with it in the opposite way that you are. And whilst going in the direction I am has me in the absolute best place I've ever been in my life, I feel like yours is taking you the other way.

I'm only saying anything I'm saying here out of concern, and as a friend.


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23620494 - 09/07/16 12:39 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

18 years here with untold contributions and I am done. :bye:


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23620505 - 09/07/16 12:49 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I hope your kidding I value your posts greatly.


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23620638 - 09/07/16 03:14 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Don't listen to Drysmashbeard, he's just being obtuse as usual.


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: Hobozen]
    #23620658 - 09/07/16 03:40 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I have no idea how I was being obtuse. Perhaps you'd care to enlighten me Hobo?


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23620661 - 09/07/16 03:42 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I can only enlighten myself


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: Hobozen]
    #23620671 - 09/07/16 03:49 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

>I just feel like I'm dealing with it in the opposite way that you are. And whilst going in the direction I am has me in the absolute best place I've ever been in my life, I feel like yours is taking you the other way.

Irks me when people say stuff like this. That's all.


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: Hobozen]
    #23620706 - 09/07/16 04:25 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

That's far out man I was just considering my life and how I need to want to have less but not use at as an excuse for gaining more over people when I loaded up the forum.

And Rumi is a favourite.

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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: Hobozen]
    #23620727 - 09/07/16 04:47 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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>I just feel like I'm dealing with it in the opposite way that you are. And whilst going in the direction I am has me in the absolute best place I've ever been in my life, I feel like yours is taking you the other way.

Irks me when people say stuff like this. That's all.



I appreciate you saying so man. It's worth noting that OC and I have probably spent near a dozen hours talking on the phone over the last couple of months, so I'm not just going on some arbitrary notion of words on a screen. I love the dude and count him as a good friend. Perhaps I should not have brought this into public light the way I did, and I know I have a tendency to lack tact, and I feel truly sorry if I've offended him. But yanno, I also feel that sometimes friends gotta call each other out when they see them being self destructive, it's important IMO and I count my closest as those that have done so for me. I wouldn't be where I am if it weren't for the people in my life who have done so for me.

@OC; please know I meant nothing but love and good intention. Shout when your cool to talk man.


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23620794 - 09/07/16 05:38 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Because life is an incredible struggle; not a weekend on the beach drinking Corona.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starvation

Perhaps these children should just read and understand Rumi.




I absolutely agree about life being a struggle, I have struggled hard and fallen harder. Rose up with a different view, changes course, and fight those struggles in a different light, with a different view.

I have been homeless, I have gone days without food, I have stolen to feed my kids. Things have been rough in my past. But $$$ was the problem and hard work, and perseverance were the answer. If I take more than I need, an I robbing from the next who may need more?

If those children read Rumi and understood it, they would probably understand it on a level most comfortably living individuals would not.


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: nuentoter]
    #23620860 - 09/07/16 06:03 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

sometimes the wife is not so hot, the job sucks, and the house is a lot of trouble.
one has to get out of the way.
then with some perspective and detachment
resume.

I don't think Rumi had the opportunity to think about how shroomerites could live 8 centuries later.


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23620874 - 09/07/16 06:12 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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redgreenvines said:
one has to get out of the way.
then with some perspective and detachment
resume.



And this is the point at which we begin to find peace and freedom right? Perspective and detachment, or, in other words, letting go of attachment.

I've been round and round on this one and I can find 0 valid argument against the supposition that all suffering is in fact due to attachment.

Not to say that I believe any of us will ever be entirely free of it, but to steer in the right direction, when one is heading down a dark path, towards the light, surely makes sense?


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 1
    #23621074 - 09/07/16 07:52 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

To free yourself of pain would be to devoid ones self of half the spectrum of experience.
To free yourself if suffering would be to not hold on to these pains. But at times these pains are attached to people we care for, and to detach yourself from that pain, in a way, detaches you from that person. Or at least feels like it sometimes. This is a hard choice, do you detach and abandon your friend or do you suffer and will either help them?


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: OrgoneConclusion] * 2
    #23621187 - 09/07/16 08:41 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

i think there's nothing wrong with desire and ambition, so long as the desire comes from your true being, and is not mentally adopted from prevailing societal norms. and even then, that's not wrong if someone consciously chooses it. what to me is more of an issue is having our own innate 'soul desires' overruled by social conditioning, often for materialistic pursuits. so i think it's important to tune into your inner being and find what really excites you in life, what your truest ambition and passion is :smile: i think in most cases, people who did this would find it isn't solely the 'nice house, hot wife, etc..' - though if it is, then that's fine too :smile:


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 1
    #23621217 - 09/07/16 08:58 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

Hobozen said:
>I just feel like I'm dealing with it in the opposite way that you are. And whilst going in the direction I am has me in the absolute best place I've ever been in my life, I feel like yours is taking you the other way.

Irks me when people say stuff like this. That's all.



I appreciate you saying so man. It's worth noting that OC and I have probably spent near a dozen hours talking on the phone over the last couple of months, so I'm not just going on some arbitrary notion of words on a screen. I love the dude and count him as a good friend. Perhaps I should not have brought this into public light the way I did, and I know I have a tendency to lack tact, and I feel truly sorry if I've offended him. But yanno, I also feel that sometimes friends gotta call each other out when they see them being self destructive, it's important IMO and I count my closest as those that have done so for me. I wouldn't be where I am if it weren't for the people in my life who have done so for me.

@OC; please know I meant nothing but love and good intention. Shout when your cool to talk man.




Fair enough. I have nothing against you just as an fyi, I was a bit aggressive and confrontational last night.


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23622447 - 09/07/16 03:45 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Not striving or desiring = stagnation. That is not a human's (nor any other creature's) lot in life.


Or if you ask a strawman-Buddhist:
-Life is suffering
-Desire is the cause of suffering
-To cease desiring is to cease suffering
-Follow the 8fold path, fool

I feel like your realization that you will always desire more has got you half-way there, now
you need to figure out how to find contentment.

You can't take it with you

EDIT:Oh yeah, and according to Princeton's business school happiness doesn't rise with salaries over $75,000 (though that
is rich for most Americans and super filthy rich if you include the rest of the world)


Edited by Crumist (09/07/16 03:47 PM)


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23627402 - 09/08/16 10:01 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Peaceful is the one who's not concerned with having more or less. ~ Rumi

Sure, but with that attitude he will never get the great job, nice house, hot wife and so forth - but he will certainly be peaceful - while panhandling.




as usual you are partly being facetious and provocative

all the man did was give a definition, which sounds reasonable, if you get nothing out of it - that's that.

this dude (Ramana Maharshi) was on the same wavelength, check out his face, dude looks pretty chill, doesn't seem these guys were such fools.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ramana+maharshi&t=h_&iax=1&ia=images


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23628796 - 09/09/16 11:45 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

God is watching


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23629228 - 09/09/16 02:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I don't interpret the original quote so much about material rather than something more related too balance or being in the middle. Keeping a middle ground between living in between the two hemispheres of the brain and making it work somehow, to a chemical level even.

This can also include material possessions and a hot wife, why not?

How rare is it that someone actually has a balanced mindset , am I wrong or people are quite unstable in some way or another. Living one foot in reality while another portion of ourselves are consumed in a self created avatar. (the online avatar is an extension of that) I'm just talking about this ego survival mechanism thing, the competitor.

You had better have a house by the time you get old because the body will start to betray you. It's also wise to remember as our friend OP says you can't bake bread with peace and love, you need some nice and physical ingredients like dough, water and even fire.


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: Withinity] * 1
    #23629388 - 09/09/16 03:13 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Peace is the one who finds joy within themselves! Peace is being content with whatever you have as opposed to wishing that things were different.


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: Gary Kwana]
    #23629471 - 09/09/16 03:41 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Bread is the one that fuels thyself! Bread is about being content that you will be able to live another day because their is something physical in your organism that gives you life opposed to.... Starvation or dehydration.

I never saw a sick person who was content with life.
Without a piece of bread , there is no peace of mind.

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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: Withinity]
    #23629531 - 09/09/16 03:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

peace doesn't come from the things you have but rather the joys it brings you. so what if you have a big house? does it bring you true joy? how about those who live in tiny homes because that is what they choose? does that mean they aren't at peace? hot wife? wonderful you have something to look at. unless she is real wife material you'll find yourself scrapping the walls just to get away. great paying job. i had a great paying job. provided me with everything I needed and then some... I wasn't at peace because I didn't get to spend time with my kids.

just because you have greater things doesn't necessarily mean you are at peace. maybe more profound in the social attention. if it doesn't truely give you great joy you aren't at peace with whatever it may be.

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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: DocShamen]
    #23630134 - 09/09/16 06:29 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

The only thing that gives us true peace is God


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: bigdoodie]
    #23631014 - 09/09/16 11:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Do you guys honestly..think you can get away from peace?

Well I think if your trying to do something..than there is a certain amount of chaos...that is not on your leash...so to speak...so chaos..is an effect of curiosity obviosly.. but the giver gives the ford..


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