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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: Hobozen]
    #23620671 - 09/07/16 03:49 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

>I just feel like I'm dealing with it in the opposite way that you are. And whilst going in the direction I am has me in the absolute best place I've ever been in my life, I feel like yours is taking you the other way.

Irks me when people say stuff like this. That's all.


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: Hobozen]
    #23620706 - 09/07/16 04:25 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

That's far out man I was just considering my life and how I need to want to have less but not use at as an excuse for gaining more over people when I loaded up the forum.

And Rumi is a favourite.

I'll be.


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: Hobozen]
    #23620727 - 09/07/16 04:47 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Hobozen said:
>I just feel like I'm dealing with it in the opposite way that you are. And whilst going in the direction I am has me in the absolute best place I've ever been in my life, I feel like yours is taking you the other way.

Irks me when people say stuff like this. That's all.



I appreciate you saying so man. It's worth noting that OC and I have probably spent near a dozen hours talking on the phone over the last couple of months, so I'm not just going on some arbitrary notion of words on a screen. I love the dude and count him as a good friend. Perhaps I should not have brought this into public light the way I did, and I know I have a tendency to lack tact, and I feel truly sorry if I've offended him. But yanno, I also feel that sometimes friends gotta call each other out when they see them being self destructive, it's important IMO and I count my closest as those that have done so for me. I wouldn't be where I am if it weren't for the people in my life who have done so for me.

@OC; please know I meant nothing but love and good intention. Shout when your cool to talk man.


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23620794 - 09/07/16 05:38 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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OrgoneConclusion said:
Because life is an incredible struggle; not a weekend on the beach drinking Corona.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starvation

Perhaps these children should just read and understand Rumi.




I absolutely agree about life being a struggle, I have struggled hard and fallen harder. Rose up with a different view, changes course, and fight those struggles in a different light, with a different view.

I have been homeless, I have gone days without food, I have stolen to feed my kids. Things have been rough in my past. But $$$ was the problem and hard work, and perseverance were the answer. If I take more than I need, an I robbing from the next who may need more?

If those children read Rumi and understood it, they would probably understand it on a level most comfortably living individuals would not.


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: nuentoter]
    #23620860 - 09/07/16 06:03 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

sometimes the wife is not so hot, the job sucks, and the house is a lot of trouble.
one has to get out of the way.
then with some perspective and detachment
resume.

I don't think Rumi had the opportunity to think about how shroomerites could live 8 centuries later.


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23620874 - 09/07/16 06:12 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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redgreenvines said:
one has to get out of the way.
then with some perspective and detachment
resume.



And this is the point at which we begin to find peace and freedom right? Perspective and detachment, or, in other words, letting go of attachment.

I've been round and round on this one and I can find 0 valid argument against the supposition that all suffering is in fact due to attachment.

Not to say that I believe any of us will ever be entirely free of it, but to steer in the right direction, when one is heading down a dark path, towards the light, surely makes sense?


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 1
    #23621074 - 09/07/16 07:52 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

To free yourself of pain would be to devoid ones self of half the spectrum of experience.
To free yourself if suffering would be to not hold on to these pains. But at times these pains are attached to people we care for, and to detach yourself from that pain, in a way, detaches you from that person. Or at least feels like it sometimes. This is a hard choice, do you detach and abandon your friend or do you suffer and will either help them?


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: OrgoneConclusion] * 2
    #23621187 - 09/07/16 08:41 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

i think there's nothing wrong with desire and ambition, so long as the desire comes from your true being, and is not mentally adopted from prevailing societal norms. and even then, that's not wrong if someone consciously chooses it. what to me is more of an issue is having our own innate 'soul desires' overruled by social conditioning, often for materialistic pursuits. so i think it's important to tune into your inner being and find what really excites you in life, what your truest ambition and passion is :smile: i think in most cases, people who did this would find it isn't solely the 'nice house, hot wife, etc..' - though if it is, then that's fine too :smile:


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 1
    #23621217 - 09/07/16 08:58 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Jokeshopbeard said:
Quote:

Hobozen said:
>I just feel like I'm dealing with it in the opposite way that you are. And whilst going in the direction I am has me in the absolute best place I've ever been in my life, I feel like yours is taking you the other way.

Irks me when people say stuff like this. That's all.



I appreciate you saying so man. It's worth noting that OC and I have probably spent near a dozen hours talking on the phone over the last couple of months, so I'm not just going on some arbitrary notion of words on a screen. I love the dude and count him as a good friend. Perhaps I should not have brought this into public light the way I did, and I know I have a tendency to lack tact, and I feel truly sorry if I've offended him. But yanno, I also feel that sometimes friends gotta call each other out when they see them being self destructive, it's important IMO and I count my closest as those that have done so for me. I wouldn't be where I am if it weren't for the people in my life who have done so for me.

@OC; please know I meant nothing but love and good intention. Shout when your cool to talk man.




Fair enough. I have nothing against you just as an fyi, I was a bit aggressive and confrontational last night.


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23622447 - 09/07/16 03:45 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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OrgoneConclusion said:
Not striving or desiring = stagnation. That is not a human's (nor any other creature's) lot in life.


Or if you ask a strawman-Buddhist:
-Life is suffering
-Desire is the cause of suffering
-To cease desiring is to cease suffering
-Follow the 8fold path, fool

I feel like your realization that you will always desire more has got you half-way there, now
you need to figure out how to find contentment.

You can't take it with you

EDIT:Oh yeah, and according to Princeton's business school happiness doesn't rise with salaries over $75,000 (though that
is rich for most Americans and super filthy rich if you include the rest of the world)


Edited by Crumist (09/07/16 03:47 PM)


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23627402 - 09/08/16 10:01 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Peaceful is the one who's not concerned with having more or less. ~ Rumi

Sure, but with that attitude he will never get the great job, nice house, hot wife and so forth - but he will certainly be peaceful - while panhandling.




as usual you are partly being facetious and provocative

all the man did was give a definition, which sounds reasonable, if you get nothing out of it - that's that.

this dude (Ramana Maharshi) was on the same wavelength, check out his face, dude looks pretty chill, doesn't seem these guys were such fools.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ramana+maharshi&t=h_&iax=1&ia=images


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23628796 - 09/09/16 11:45 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

God is watching


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23629228 - 09/09/16 02:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I don't interpret the original quote so much about material rather than something more related too balance or being in the middle. Keeping a middle ground between living in between the two hemispheres of the brain and making it work somehow, to a chemical level even.

This can also include material possessions and a hot wife, why not?

How rare is it that someone actually has a balanced mindset , am I wrong or people are quite unstable in some way or another. Living one foot in reality while another portion of ourselves are consumed in a self created avatar. (the online avatar is an extension of that) I'm just talking about this ego survival mechanism thing, the competitor.

You had better have a house by the time you get old because the body will start to betray you. It's also wise to remember as our friend OP says you can't bake bread with peace and love, you need some nice and physical ingredients like dough, water and even fire.


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: Withinity] * 1
    #23629388 - 09/09/16 03:13 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Peace is the one who finds joy within themselves! Peace is being content with whatever you have as opposed to wishing that things were different.


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: Gary Kwana]
    #23629471 - 09/09/16 03:41 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Bread is the one that fuels thyself! Bread is about being content that you will be able to live another day because their is something physical in your organism that gives you life opposed to.... Starvation or dehydration.

I never saw a sick person who was content with life.
Without a piece of bread , there is no peace of mind.

Will you take a slice?


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: Withinity]
    #23629531 - 09/09/16 03:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

peace doesn't come from the things you have but rather the joys it brings you. so what if you have a big house? does it bring you true joy? how about those who live in tiny homes because that is what they choose? does that mean they aren't at peace? hot wife? wonderful you have something to look at. unless she is real wife material you'll find yourself scrapping the walls just to get away. great paying job. i had a great paying job. provided me with everything I needed and then some... I wasn't at peace because I didn't get to spend time with my kids.

just because you have greater things doesn't necessarily mean you are at peace. maybe more profound in the social attention. if it doesn't truely give you great joy you aren't at peace with whatever it may be.

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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: DocShamen]
    #23630134 - 09/09/16 06:29 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

The only thing that gives us true peace is God


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Re: Peaceful is the one... [Re: bigdoodie]
    #23631014 - 09/09/16 11:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Do you guys honestly..think you can get away from peace?

Well I think if your trying to do something..than there is a certain amount of chaos...that is not on your leash...so to speak...so chaos..is an effect of curiosity obviosly.. but the giver gives the ford..


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