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TheEaglesGift
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Start up a new project. Worst case scenario, you have a new set of jars that make it if these don't. Best case scenario, you have a lot of jars to fruit.
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ninelives
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Registered: 07/13/15
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So I walked by my grow room, and without entering I catch a whiff of this rancid milk odor, so I go in, and smell each jar without disturbing or touching them. The rancid smell was pretty dang potent, but it was only in one jar, so it's been removed and discarded. Are my other jars at risk, since they were basking in the stank? I went ahead and started another set of jars, thanks @TheEaglesGift. I might have an idea of what went wrong. Ran out of solution on my last two jars, so I sucked a small amount of filtered drinking water in the syringe, one turned black, the other, the gnarly smell. Is this stuff naturally in my drinking water? Is boiling the only way to achieve truly sterile water?
-------------------- You wish to grow but fear what you may become, so you push off the water, the dirt, the sun, to stay in your hole. But it is in the very pushing that you become a tree, in spite of yourself. How did that happen?
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ninelives
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@Mrmazdarx9, promise I didn't touch lol :P. The jar on the right is the trouble maker. I left it outside and it looks like it's putting up a valiant effort to survive, curious to see what happens. The BRF/Verm was looking slimy.
-------------------- You wish to grow but fear what you may become, so you push off the water, the dirt, the sun, to stay in your hole. But it is in the very pushing that you become a tree, in spite of yourself. How did that happen?
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Mad Season
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Ew. Wet and clumpy af! Hella bacterial. Those look perfect for the trash can. Take off the foil during colonization.. also what recipe did you follow? It should be 1:1:2 water:brf:verm. Water and verm mixed first and then brf mixed in after.
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ninelives
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I used FungiFun's PF Tek For Simple Minds. My sterilization process was almost hypochondriac like. I had a slight cold when I made them, but I even went as far as wearing a disposable face mask. Ive got them in a closet that stays at 79 regardless of the thermostat. It was completely sterilized and emptied, shampood carpet, Lysol on walls, counter and ceiling. My BRF/Verm ratio was spot on as well. No odors from the other jars though, and growth is pretty good at the moment. Does odor mean it's gone airborne? Or is it just odor from the bacteria digesting?
-------------------- You wish to grow but fear what you may become, so you push off the water, the dirt, the sun, to stay in your hole. But it is in the very pushing that you become a tree, in spite of yourself. How did that happen?
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mrmazdarx9
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ninelives said: @Mrmazdarx9, promise I didn't touch lol :P. The jar on the right is the trouble maker. I left it outside and it looks like it's putting up a valiant effort to survive, curious to see what happens. The BRF/Verm was looking slimy.

Lol it happens I just binned a PE jar that I was a little unsure of, wasn't the same as the rest of the jars. Normally I'd of let it finish but I've learnt its generally not worth the wait or the risk of contaminating the rest
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ninelives
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The smell was pretty gnarly. Held my breath on my way outside it was so bad. It was the farthest behind, so I wasn't too bummed about it. Would you recommend wide mouth half pint jars instead?
-------------------- You wish to grow but fear what you may become, so you push off the water, the dirt, the sun, to stay in your hole. But it is in the very pushing that you become a tree, in spite of yourself. How did that happen?
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TheEaglesGift
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What kind of water did you suck into the syringe? Bottle distilled water is usually pretty safe I hear, but I've always used PC sterilized or at the very least boiled water when working with spore syringes.
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ninelives
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Used filtered water from my fridge, which was purchased recently, but I've got a feeling that was the problem. Four out of seven of my jars seem to be pretty healthy, and I inoculated 3 of them with drinking water, so I'm assuming those are the jars that failed. I didn't label them though (dumb I know), so I can't be sure. Last night I made two jars of just drinking water using a spare unopened syringe, following the exact process, without using spores to see if anything nasty grows.
Working on my SGFC today. Using an old PC fan mounted to the side for FAE. The rest of my fans are industrial, so that's a no go with those.
-------------------- You wish to grow but fear what you may become, so you push off the water, the dirt, the sun, to stay in your hole. But it is in the very pushing that you become a tree, in spite of yourself. How did that happen?
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ninelives
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The contaminated jar I placed outside is really fighting, even with the heat. The smell has diminished as well but the Mycelium fights on.
-------------------- You wish to grow but fear what you may become, so you push off the water, the dirt, the sun, to stay in your hole. But it is in the very pushing that you become a tree, in spite of yourself. How did that happen?
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mrmazdarx9
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ninelives said: The contaminated jar I placed outside is really fighting, even with the heat. The smell has diminished as well but the Mycelium fights on.
I like to do that the myc usually wins even had one go mostly green then the myc took it back, I never used it though just buried it once I got bored
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ninelives
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I figured it deserved a fighting chance. I felt too guilty throwing it away, even though it's unusable. I'm going to give it some time then bury it. Unfertilized manure okay? I've got loads of it.
-------------------- You wish to grow but fear what you may become, so you push off the water, the dirt, the sun, to stay in your hole. But it is in the very pushing that you become a tree, in spite of yourself. How did that happen?
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mrmazdarx9
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ninelives said: I figured it deserved a fighting chance. I felt too guilty throwing it away, even though it's unusable. I'm going to give it some time then bury it. Unfertilized manure okay? I've got loads of it.
Its basically being thrown anyway
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ninelives
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Alright haha I won't waste my manure on it then, even though I don't have anything else to do with it. Would a Mercury vapor bulb be effective at speeding up the colonization on my other jars?
-------------------- You wish to grow but fear what you may become, so you push off the water, the dirt, the sun, to stay in your hole. But it is in the very pushing that you become a tree, in spite of yourself. How did that happen?
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TheEaglesGift
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Used filtered water from my fridge, which was purchased recently, but I've got a feeling that was the problem.
It was a problem, for sure. Hard to say if this was the cause as you may have made other mistakes, but don't use this as a water source again. Sterilized water is best, though some use boiled or bottle distilled.
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ninelives
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So am I drinking this stuff on a daily basis? I have an extra mercury vapor bulb that emits UVB for the absorption of Vitamin D in lizards, would this affect the colonization time if used indirectly on a 12/12 schedule?
Also what do you think about Damions Coir Tek on my first grow?
-------------------- You wish to grow but fear what you may become, so you push off the water, the dirt, the sun, to stay in your hole. But it is in the very pushing that you become a tree, in spite of yourself. How did that happen?
Edited by ninelives (09/18/16 06:23 PM)
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TheEaglesGift
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Did you think your carbon block filter completely sterilized your water? It doesn't, but that's not really an issue for drinking but it is an issue for mycology. The housing units for those filter are usually filled with massive biofilms unless they're cleaned. The carbon block itself will become a breeding ground for biofilms if they're not changed often enough. That said, it hasn't killed you yet. Drinking water isn't supposed to be sterile, it just shouldn't have pathogens, which chlorine and processing takes care of. Wells and especially springs can be safe and great water sources as well. That said, chlorine and the other constituents in city water are horrible for your health. The inorganic minerals in well water are damaging as well. I suggest using a water distiller if you have city water or hard well water(most well water is very hard). This is getting pretty off topic but considering it's your thread I don't see the issue.
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ninelives
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It makes sense that it doesn't filter everything, though the last thing I would have expected to be present in it was bacteria. Colonization is moving along, slowly but surely in last four jars. I'll let you guys know how everything works out. Sorry about this getting so far off topic, I really appreciate all the help though, I've learned a ton from this thread.
-------------------- You wish to grow but fear what you may become, so you push off the water, the dirt, the sun, to stay in your hole. But it is in the very pushing that you become a tree, in spite of yourself. How did that happen?
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ninelives
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Progress so far. Looks weird to me but we'll see.
-------------------- You wish to grow but fear what you may become, so you push off the water, the dirt, the sun, to stay in your hole. But it is in the very pushing that you become a tree, in spite of yourself. How did that happen?
Edited by ninelives (09/19/16 06:07 PM)
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mrmazdarx9
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Bacterial but should still fruit, not long now till birthing time couple weeks maybe not forgetting consolidation
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