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Re: The Secret of Life is... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23612378 - 09/04/16 07:16 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

This is like the psychedelic version of that seinfeld episode where jerry writes down what he thinks is a great joke in the middle of the night but can't read it in the morning. Then when he finally figures it out, it's not even funny.


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Re: The Secret of Life is... [Re: demiu5] * 1
    #23612411 - 09/04/16 07:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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demiu5 said:
i really have to wonder if any other species contemplates there "being more than what is experienced"

everything else seems content with being as is




I think this is a very subtle and important point.

Other species give no thought to the possibility of there being more to life than is experienced.  Every single other organism on Earth is quite content with things as they are.  Only man neurotically dwells on his lot in life, and too commonly the status quo is far from good enough.  To compound matters, for most their lot never really changes.  It would clearly then behoove us to learn acceptance and satisfaction in who we are.  Trying to deny who or what we are, or rebel against it, is at the root of a lot of the major problems we face as a species.


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Re: The Secret of Life is... [Re: Dim ethyl]
    #23612440 - 09/04/16 07:34 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I think he may mean we are pure beings made of love and we have been decived into thinking we are corrupt filthy damn dirty apes




We are Charlton Heston.


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Re: The Secret of Life is... [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #23612471 - 09/04/16 07:45 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Other species give no thought to the possibility of there being more to life than is experienced.  Every single other organism on Earth is quite content with things as they are.  Only man neurotically dwells on his lot in life, and too commonly the status quo is far from good enough.  To compound matters, for most their lot never really changes.  It would clearly then behoove us to learn acceptance and satisfaction in who we are.  Trying to deny who or what we are, or rebel against it, is at the root of a lot of the major problems we face as a species.



Great post DQ, really like that.


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Re: The Secret of Life is... [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #23612493 - 09/04/16 07:54 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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demiu5 said:
i really have to wonder if any other species contemplates there "being more than what is experienced"

everything else seems content with being as is




I think this is a very subtle and important point.

Other species give no thought to the possibility of there being more to life than is experienced.  Every single other organism on Earth is quite content with things as they are.  Only man neurotically dwells on his lot in life, and too commonly the status quo is far from good enough.  To compound matters, for most their lot never really changes.  It would clearly then behoove us to learn acceptance and satisfaction in who we are.  Trying to deny who or what we are, or rebel against it, is at the root of a lot of the major problems we face as a species.





do you think the same applies to animals taken from their natural habitats and placed into captivity?  (presumably at an age where they would have a strong memory of what once was)

granted this involves human interference, as captivity does not seem a natural state anywhere else but among humanity or a spider's web/funnel.  i'm not including quicksand/tar-pits as they are not organisms.


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Re: The Secret of Life is... [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23612496 - 09/04/16 07:56 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Other species give no thought to the possibility of there being more to life than is experienced.  Every single other organism on Earth is quite content with things as they are.  Only man neurotically dwells on his lot in life, and too commonly the status quo is far from good enough.  To compound matters, for most their lot never really changes.  It would clearly then behoove us to learn acceptance and satisfaction in who we are.  Trying to deny who or what we are, or rebel against it, is at the root of a lot of the major problems we face as a species.



Great post DQ, really like that.




If by great, you mean unsubstantiated, then yes. However, I want to see the data.


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Re: The Secret of Life is... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23612659 - 09/04/16 08:38 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

You always want to see the fucking data. I think you need to let go of that shit for a while man.


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Re: The Secret of Life is... [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23612661 - 09/04/16 08:38 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I say that with only kindness and love BTW.


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Re: The Secret of Life is... [Re: demiu5]
    #23612687 - 09/04/16 08:47 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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demiu5 said:
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DividedQuantum said:
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demiu5 said:
i really have to wonder if any other species contemplates there "being more than what is experienced"

everything else seems content with being as is




I think this is a very subtle and important point.

Other species give no thought to the possibility of there being more to life than is experienced.  Every single other organism on Earth is quite content with things as they are.  Only man neurotically dwells on his lot in life, and too commonly the status quo is far from good enough.  To compound matters, for most their lot never really changes.  It would clearly then behoove us to learn acceptance and satisfaction in who we are.  Trying to deny who or what we are, or rebel against it, is at the root of a lot of the major problems we face as a species.





do you think the same applies to animals taken from their natural habitats and placed into captivity?  (presumably at an age where they would have a strong memory of what once was)

granted this involves human interference, as captivity does not seem a natural state anywhere else but among humanity or a spider's web/funnel.  i'm not including quicksand/tar-pits as they are not organisms.




Well, tigers pacing their cages are probably not thinking about how things can be better.  They're probably thinking more along the lines of "this sucks, this sucks, this sucks, etc..."


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Re: The Secret of Life is... [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23612718 - 09/04/16 08:56 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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You always want to see the fucking data. I think you need to let go of that shit for a while man.




Truly not getting you. A member claims to know the minds of every species on earth and I am supposed to accept that as factual?

We are ONLY communicating via electricity/satellite/router/internet/computer because engineers needed to see the data.


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Re: The Secret of Life is... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23612752 - 09/04/16 09:04 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

There's things in this life to be known (like technology) and things to be not (like god).

IMO. I'm really not wording that very well. My head is in a funny place tonight. We shall talk this out in gross detail soon my brother.


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Re: The Secret of Life is... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23612756 - 09/04/16 09:05 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Jokeshopbeard said:
You always want to see the fucking data. I think you need to let go of that shit for a while man.




Truly not getting you. A member claims to know the minds of every species on earth and I am supposed to accept that as factual?

We are ONLY communicating via electricity/satellite/router/internet/computer because engineers needed to see the data.





i want the data too.  unfortunately, i don't think this is data that will [ever] be obtainable for humans.

it's an unfortunate coin toss, being:  a) we do, so why wouldn't others?, and b) just because we do, why would the others?


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Re: The Secret of Life is... [Re: demiu5]
    #23612793 - 09/04/16 09:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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i really have to wonder if any other species contemplates there "being more than what is experienced"

everything else seems content with being as is





This for some reason made me think of trees and plants. The reason for sending branches up in systematically spaces out arrays in all directions. The plant knows what is, maybe there is something else? So more branches. More feelers out into the world. More antennas.

Animals, almost anyone that has owned a male dog will tell you that when you out, most males (unless conditioner otherwise) will want to go and explore sniff stuff, bite and paw at things, piss on everything. Is this not the doings of a curious animal? If so what is it curious about? To find something new? Something yet inexperienced. Same with cats and ferrets. I do not speak about all animals but some (at least in my [slightly bias] opinion) definitely show signs of wanting more, just on what scope or scale may vary.


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Re: The Secret of Life is... [Re: nuentoter]
    #23612869 - 09/04/16 09:39 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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demiu5 said:

i really have to wonder if any other species contemplates there "being more than what is experienced"

everything else seems content with being as is





This for some reason made me think of trees and plants. The reason for sending branches up in systematically spaces out arrays in all directions. The plant knows what is, maybe there is something else? So more branches. More feelers out into the world. More antennas.

Animals, almost anyone that has owned a male dog will tell you that when you out, most males (unless conditioner otherwise) will want to go and explore sniff stuff, bite and paw at things, piss on everything. Is this not the doings of a curious animal? If so what is it curious about? To find something new? Something yet inexperienced. Same with cats and ferrets. I do not speak about all animals but some (at least in my [slightly bias] opinion) definitely show signs of wanting more, just on what scope or scale may vary.





while i see your point, it is one thing for an organism to explore its immediate landscape/reality.  it's a whole other thing for an organism to create a landscape to explore with no rational physical base/bearing.


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Re: The Secret of Life is... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23614362 - 09/05/16 10:40 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Dammit! I wrote it down last night on a sticky pad. It has to be around here somewhere. * scratches head*




Duh ...

so if that was the secret, how are you still living without it?

Duh ...

must actually be quite unnecessary

scratches head

bloody head

wonders: why is my head bloody

answer must be on a piece of paper somewhere

wonders: why is there blood on the paper

so scratches head with incredulity


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Re: The Secret of Life is... [Re: laughingdog]
    #23619796 - 09/06/16 09:10 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Hmm, meaning and being..in a time for the longing of rites..to do things..if you could do whatever you wanted you would probably know the meaning of life?


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Re: The Secret of Life is... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23619927 - 09/06/16 09:36 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Life is a Mystery but it's no secret. It's right in your face.


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Re: The Secret of Life is... [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #23620020 - 09/06/16 09:56 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

lol...omg are you referring to Tiferet in Kabbalah>?


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Re: The Secret of Life is... [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #23620155 - 09/06/16 10:26 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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lol...omg are you referring to Tiferet in Kabbalah>?




Not intentionally. But The Lesser Countenance is the immanence of the transcendent Greater Countenance, the Infinite in the finite, Ain Sof in The Sun, the Father in the Son, the Mystery Revealed.


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