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KingM3
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Re: differences..grain spawn and substrate [Re: Mushierage]
#23611425 - 09/04/16 01:39 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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blackout


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Re: differences..grain spawn and substrate [Re: spacechildo]
#23618823 - 09/06/16 04:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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spacechildo said: If I ran a mush farm I'd use one of those 55gal barrels and steam sterilize my grains, but waiting 8 hrs for a pot with boiling water on my stove to make grain spawn? no thanks.
You do not have to be actively steaming the jars, if you held them at boiling point it should be the same thing. I have heat treated jars over several days just under 100C which still show no sign of contams, submerged in sealed jars in hot water. If you use oil or water with additives you can get it past the usual boiling point, there would be minimal pressure so I expect decent jars would hold up. You would have a simple thermostat controlling it. If done in cold weather the heat given off could be heating your room and so not going to waste. If well insulated the energy costs would not be too much anyway. In a large barrel you could have water circulating using a pump, there are also sous vide water circulators which are cheap enough -and could double up for cooking with.
I would be interested to hear if anybody looked at the power usage of electric PCs in a typical run.
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spacechildo
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Re: differences..grain spawn and substrate [Re: blackout]
#23618917 - 09/06/16 04:49 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I still wouldn't leave my house with a kettle of boiling water on
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Kenetic
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Re: differences..grain spawn and substrate [Re: spacechildo]
#23618961 - 09/06/16 05:01 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah and 8 hours of gas sounds expensive. A 'scientific' way around this shit would be selecting the most efficient method to achieve your goal. If you only have a small batch, get a p.c.
Like blackout said, it can be done, but like I said it probably isn't worth it for a small batch of jars unless you never plan on growing again, which I doubt. Grow once and you'll get the fever....
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blackout


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Re: differences..grain spawn and substrate [Re: Kenetic]
#23639010 - 09/12/16 04:26 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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spacechildo said: I still wouldn't leave my house with a kettle of boiling water on 
I have, the boilers I use are commonly left on over the whole weekend where I work, more often than not cafes etc leave them turned on. I also leave my fridge freezer on. I am not talking about a pot of water on a stove.
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kenetic said: Yeah and 8 hours of gas sounds expensive. A 'scientific' way around this shit would be selecting the most efficient method to achieve your goal.
This is why I wanted to hear the energy usage of people with electric PCs. I have a 10L vacuum insulated tank which only uses about 10W of power while holding water at 97C. The initial heating uses a lot more. If my jars are up to temperature after 90mins then it is only using 10W from then on. Where I live electricity is 16 cent (euros) per kWhr. So if I had a 10L tank up to temperate for 10 additional hours it would cost me 1.6cent extra in addition to initial heat up costs.
I have a 50L keg which has just regular insulation and I think it looses about 200W, so that would be 32cent for the extra 10 hours.
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