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WanderingSettler
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Low yields on bulk substrate
#23609797 - 09/03/16 11:28 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hello everybody. This is my first grow and I'm sure I've made some mistakes along the way. I had a brf cake that I spawned to coco coir. I waited about 10 days for it to colonize and at the time I thought it looked good enough to transfer to the fruiting chamber but now that I'm learning more about growing, I'm pretty sure it wasn't ready to transfer yet. I had a very small flush and picked it about 3 days ago and haven't noticed anything so far. I'm wondering if I will get a second flush because it seems to have stalled? I have (2) 6500k fluorescent bulbs, temp is 76-78 and humidity is 88-95. I fan 3-4 times a day and mist every other time I fan. Am I missing anything?
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Pics ...you're missing pics
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WanderingSettler said: I had a brf cake that I spawned to coco coir......
you got your answer. trust me.. i did it once. brf to coco(or brf to any spawn) is not that way to go.
edit: good job on getting your first fruits!!
Edited by mushboy (09/03/16 11:52 PM)
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WanderingSettler
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Re: Low yields on bulk substrate [Re: mushboy]
#23610624 - 09/04/16 08:54 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah I'm having a hard time figuring out how to attach a picture to my post. For some reason when I do it, it only lets me access like 4 photos from my gallery. And yeah I gotta say it's all learning I'm just glad I had a little something to show for it!
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spacechildo
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are these the pics you wanted to share?

1 brf cake isnt much spawn, you could have gotten more if you didnt take the sub cake out of whatever it colonized in, as it is now its losing moisture FAST. the top looks very dry while it needs drops of water all over to initiate knotting.
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Re: Low yields on bulk substrate [Re: spacechildo]
#23610758 - 09/04/16 09:43 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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That's a nice little group though
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Re: Low yields on bulk substrate [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23610967 - 09/04/16 10:56 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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mrmazdarx9 said: That's a nice little group though
Indeed it looks symmetrical, lol mmmm purtty mushwooms
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Pastywhyte
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WanderingSettler said: I fan 3-4 times a day and mist every other time I fan. Am I missing anything?
This is what's drying it all out. Only fan after you mist. No mist, no fan. Fanning consists of opening the chamber to mist and then placing the lid back when done misting. Standing there for 3 min fanning the hell outta it gives pretty poor results.
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Re: Low yields on bulk substrate [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23611402 - 09/04/16 01:29 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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When I used brf I never cased my cakes and had them sitting on perlite. I also didn't mist but used steaming water poured and drained through the perlite and ice cubes to keep the steam from raising the heat
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Re: Low yields on bulk substrate [Re: KingM3]
#23611404 - 09/04/16 01:31 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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KingM3 said: When I used brf I never cased my cakes and had them sitting on perlite. I also didn't mist but used steaming water poured and drained through the perlite and ice cubes to keep the steam from raising the heat
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Re: Low yields on bulk substrate [Re: KingM3]
#23611408 - 09/04/16 01:32 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I got good yield 2 maybe 3 rather large flushes per cake. But it wasn't bulk
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Re: Low yields on bulk substrate [Re: KingM3]
#23611409 - 09/04/16 01:33 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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KingM3 said: When I used brf I never cased my cakes and had them sitting on perlite. I also didn't mist but used steaming water poured and drained through the perlite and ice cubes to keep the steam from raising the heat
You are really really over complicating things. Mist, then fan. Humidity is not an issue in a properly built chamber.
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Re: Low yields on bulk substrate [Re: Mushierage]
#23611415 - 09/04/16 01:35 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Oh I know I did. I was a shitty make shift terrarium in my closet. I was misting till I read that getting to much on the cakes would hurt them and got paranoid.
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Re: Low yields on bulk substrate [Re: KingM3]
#23611421 - 09/04/16 01:38 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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It was a laughable funny set up let me tell you
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Re: Low yields on bulk substrate [Re: KingM3]
#23611426 - 09/04/16 01:40 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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By cased do you mean dunked then rolled
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Re: Low yields on bulk substrate [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23611439 - 09/04/16 01:45 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah. I had a hard time with the first batch getting anything to stick. I misted and fanned when I was casing. But when I stopped doing that I watched my cakes get damaged before my very every eyes and realized with out that casing direct misting could be trouble. I did amazing without it with a little more work and never really looked for a different method after that
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Re: Low yields on bulk substrate [Re: KingM3]
#23611446 - 09/04/16 01:47 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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It seemed to tear the mycelium with direct misting and no casing
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Re: Low yields on bulk substrate [Re: KingM3]
#23611508 - 09/04/16 02:07 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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What are you doing, spraying with a fire hose? A light mist above the chamber, and allowing it to fall all over you sub or cakes should do no harm at all.
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Re: Low yields on bulk substrate [Re: KingM3]
#23611514 - 09/04/16 02:08 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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It should stick easy you did dunk in water for 24 hours first right? Dunk and roll I then leave it a day to give the myc time to grab hold of the verm it should be plenty wet to not need a spray for 24 hours that way it all doesn't fall off first time I spray it
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Re: Low yields on bulk substrate [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23611617 - 09/04/16 02:37 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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See that was my problem....I literally dipped them in distilled water then attempted to roll them in the verm. No I was spraying them directly. EEverything I'm telling you was from my first time ever trying this. All from of head knowledge (obviously limited). But I did end up with brilliant beautiful flushes like I ssaid monthly 3 flushes per cake and almost no aborts at all once I began to learn from my mistakes
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Re: Low yields on bulk substrate [Re: KingM3]
#23611624 - 09/04/16 02:39 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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24 hour soak...makes me feel stupid lol
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Re: Low yields on bulk substrate [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23611626 - 09/04/16 02:39 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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unrolled cakes dry out easily and leave the cake bruised which this guy apparently mistook for water damage.
DO dunk and roll cakes, mist cakes directly.
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Re: Low yields on bulk substrate [Re: spacechildo]
#23611629 - 09/04/16 02:41 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks for the info
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Re: Low yields on bulk substrate [Re: spacechildo]
#23611630 - 09/04/16 02:41 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Its won't make a difference with the stickiness but distilled water is not necessary and potentially reducing useful minerals that tap water contains Are you saying you soaked them for 24 hours or dipped them in and out your two posts are conflicting so don't know which you mean if you only dipped them then that's your problem
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Re: Low yields on bulk substrate [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23611648 - 09/04/16 02:55 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Was my problem
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Re: Low yields on bulk substrate [Re: KingM3]
#23613180 - 09/04/16 11:28 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yes those are the pics I was trying to upload! Ok so I went and misted the substrate really well. Gave it a light fanning. This isn't a lost cause, is it? I mean, I'm assuming that was my "first flush". Should I be working towards a second flush?
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