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consuming cactus alcohol extract
    #23608129 - 09/03/16 01:56 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

50g of dried powdered san pedro was extracted using a simple alcohol tek that had some good reviews  (151 rum was used).

I now have a few grams of resin/tar.  I am wondering if this should simply be put into gel caps and eaten?  Can the resin be boiled and then filtered through a coffee filter and drank like a tea?

Also, my extract seems to consist of two different things.  In the center there is a black gooey portion (like tar), and towards the edges there is a harder yellow-green portion (like resin).  Should both be consumed, or is the mescaline concentrated in only one?

Thanks!

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Re: consuming cactus alcohol extract [Re: empty palm]
    #23608233 - 09/03/16 02:35 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I covered my tar with flour and ate it like that, extremely bitter! Have an amazing time! Sacred cacti!!

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Re: consuming cactus alcohol extract [Re: connectedcosmos]
    #23608532 - 09/03/16 04:10 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

50g of dried san pedro contains between 50mg and 1187.5mg of mescaline.
https://www.erowid.org/plants/cacti/cacti_sanpedro_potency_faq.shtml

50mg is well below a threshold dose, and 1187.5mg is a very uncomfortable overdose, so you need to be very careful about how you choose to dose your tar.
https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mescaline/mescaline_dose.shtml

To be honest, 50g is not nearly enough material to work with because you're just going to have to take a guess hope for the best no matter what dosage scheme you come up with.

I wouldn't bother further processing the tar. Just find some way to make it easier to swallow. Gel caps work, but capping up the tar may prove to be somewhat difficult. Flour, as suggested above, works well too, but it definitely will taste bad. If you go that route, make them into many smaller balls, rather than fewer larger balls, to make them easier to swallow like pills. Another option is to parachute them, though that could involve ingesting quite a bit of paper.


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Re: consuming cactus alcohol extract [Re: healing]
    #23608737 - 09/03/16 05:18 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks for the insight.  I will be spitting the 50g with another person and leaving a little of the extract aside for later, so I am estimating the dose to be around 20g each (hopefully not enough for an overdose). 

I just updated the post with one other question I had, regarding the difference if any between the black gooey portion of my extract and the more resiny, hard yellow part.  If you have any knowledge of this I would be grateful.

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Re: consuming cactus alcohol extract [Re: empty palm]
    #23608887 - 09/03/16 06:19 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

^^^ Overdose?  Ummmm...no.  You won't even feel it.  I think you misunderstood the advice given to you in this tread.  50 grams of dried powder is a fraction of what one person would require.  Splitting it with another individual is a guarantee that nothing will be felt.

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Re: consuming cactus alcohol extract [Re: Nature Boy]
    #23609003 - 09/03/16 07:04 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I doubted the idea of overdose, i was just responding to the poster who said it is possible to have a 1000mg mescaline trip from 50g of cactus.  I have taken cactus about 6 times at a does of 15g and had a significant psychedelic experience every time... i suppose my cactus could have been good quality?  But yes it was dried and measured and very profound even at low doses around 15g

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Re: consuming cactus alcohol extract [Re: Nature Boy]
    #23609149 - 09/03/16 07:50 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Nature Boy said:
^^^ Overdose?  Ummmm...no.  You won't even feel it.  I think you misunderstood the advice given to you in this tread.  50 grams of dried powder is a fraction of what one person would require.  Splitting it with another individual is a guarantee that nothing will be felt.

N.B.




No I'm saying that they shouldn't take any more than 1/5 of the total extract each on their first time. That way they don't take too high of a dose. You should always start small and work your way up. The problem is that they didn't buy enough cactus material to titrate their dosage, so there is a definite possibility that they won't trip at all and wasted their money.


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Re: consuming cactus alcohol extract [Re: empty palm]
    #23609170 - 09/03/16 07:53 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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empty palm said:
I doubted the idea of overdose, i was just responding to the poster who said it is possible to have a 1000mg mescaline trip from 50g of cactus.  I have taken cactus about 6 times at a does of 15g and had a significant psychedelic experience every time... i suppose my cactus could have been good quality?  But yes it was dried and measured and very profound even at low doses around 15g




15g of dried san pedro contains between 15mg and 356.25mg of mescaline, so your cactus was on the strong side. 15g of dried san pedro is a reasonable, though somewhat high dose to take of an untested specimen. You just have to have the understanding when you take such a dose that there is the possibility that you will only ingest 15mg of mescaline. That's why you want to have more material to work with, so that you can slowly safely increase your dosage until you can achieve the intensity of experience you desire without risking a very uncomfortable overdose. That's just part of the problem of safely taking a drug that varies so widely in potency.


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