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Perfect N,N-DMT: The tek for the TOTAL NOOB. * 2
    #23608610 - 09/03/16 04:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)
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I'm going to start this thread by saying: I already know there are a million how-to's, and if this thread needs to be moved please do so.

So often I see so many people struggling to get the technique down, or not understanding at all what they're doing even with the directions right in front of their face (no judgement, chemistry is confusing magic), resulting in diminutive yields and shitty peanut-butter looking DMT. That said, my first two tries were exactly like this (brown and gooey). I didn't even have a tek, I just had someone tell me what they did and I attempted to achieve it by memory. Granted, even ear-wax Dimitry will take you beyond space and time, but everyone wants to have those beautiful, glassy shards.

I love this forum and I love psychedelics and I love you guys all so much, I can't stand to see you all suffer. So, BEFORE I post my tek, I'm going to show you pictures of what your DMT can look like, because it is going to be a long, in-depth read. And I'm doing away with SWIM, because we all know who he is. It doesn't fool anyone and it doesn't protect you from the law.

NOTE: This tek is for people who don't understand what they're reading or why they are doing what the directions tell them to do. Here's what you, too, can make yourself.




This tek is available in a more aesthetically pleasing .DOC format as well, see attachment.
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DMT EXTRACTION; How and Why
An acid-to-base extraction tek by "dp3"

In this tek, along with detailed and coherent instructions on what to do, I will briefly (or in as much detail necessary) explain why each step is done. Note that some measurements will vary depending on container sizes, etc, and may not need to be exact (advance apologies for those afflicted with OCD).

This tek is mainly directed toward those wishing to yield a large amount of DMT from a large amount of MHRB (though Acacia Confusa works just as well, but with much lower yield). Total time required: 2-3 days.

FIRST AND FOREMOST, YOU WILL NEED:

*1 Kilogram Mimosa Hostilis root bark, shredded or powdered; (as I use powdered, a first timer would have a much easier time during filtration with shredded bark. However, powdered can often produce a higher yield of DMT)

*White distilled vinegar or Muriatic Acid (hydrochloric acid. I use vinegar being as it is just as effective, easier to come by, and a hell of a lot safer to handle);

*Sodium Hydroxide (NaOH, Caustic Soda, Lye);

*VM&P Naphtha (other teks show that they use Zippo™ lighter fluid, Coleman™ camp fuel, or other “name brand” non-polar solvents. This is simply because they are easily found at every chain supermarket or convenience store. Unlike VM&P Naphtha, these other solvents often have additives such as colors, scents, longevity aids, and other chemicals that will remain in your DMT when the solvent has evaporated. It is highly recommended that one does not smoke or ingest these additives for any reason);

*Zinc dust (Yes, this is metal. Any questions will be answered along the way)
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Thus concludes the portion of “ingredients” that will go into the actual extraction process. All of these materials can be found at any combination of grocery store, Lowes® or Home Depot®, and chemical supply stores (a quick Google® search will show numerous shops that sell Zinc dust).
You will also need:

*Large size pickle jar (I think the size I use is 1 gallon. It may be larger, I already removed the labels);

*Large mason jar ( ½ gallon [2-quart] is preffered. If you only have access to quart-size jars, get two);

*2 smaller jars (pasta sauce, salsa, mason, or smaller pickle jars. Lids will be necessary for all jars used.);

*OPTIONAL: pH meter (as used for soil (or liquid if you can find one). Pool strips will be very difficult to read, as our solution will be blood-red);

*Cheese cloth (or other large, coarse strainer. More than one will probably be necessary. Coffee filters prove very difficult, if not impossible, to strain powdered bark. As they may work fine for shredded, a cheese cloth will keep all plant material yet the liquid will pass through much faster than with a coffee filter);

*Large pot (crock-pot size is good, though no heat will be required. You want a wide opening, not so much high volume capacity.);

*OPTIONAL (for powdered bark): Hand-held fruit juicer (this may be used in filtering the bark from the vinegar.);

*Turkey baster (if you can find a glass one, definitely do so. I have not been able to find one, and plastic has worked just fine. Be sure to get one with a wire cleaner included! This may be needed if emulsion occurs);

*Glass or Pyrex baking dish (Pie size dish is sufficient, but one might get a quicker evaporation from a large casserole dish);

*Scales (capable of weighing as little as 0.1g and as much as 200g

I wish I didn’t need to say this, but remember proper protection: Goggles, gloves, & at least a drywall mask. Solvents and reactions produce fumes that can irritate your skin, eyes, and sinuses from contact or inhalation. Vinegar will leave your hands smelling pretty gross. And lest I should forget to mention, handling caustic soda can AND WILL burn the skin right off your hands, especially if wet (reference the scene in Fight Club where Tyler burns Jack’s hand, that is Sodium Hydroxide).

PRE-EXTRACTION PREP:
Place 1 kilogram root bark into the large pickle jar.
Mimosa Hostilis, Acacia Confusa (Ayahuasca), and numerous other plants contain DMT. This will be the source of the crystals extracted.

Pour vinegar into the jar along with the bark. Between 1/3 and ½ gallon will suffice ( ½ may be a bit excessive, but too much doesn’t necessarily hurt). If you are using Muriatic acid, you will want to dilute with water to a pH between 2 and 3, which is about 1 part HCl to 500 parts water ALWAYS ADD HCl ACID TO WATER, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. If you are needing this tek I would highly advise against fucking with HCl acid.
This is our acidic solution.

DMT as it naturally exists in the bark is not water soluble. An acidic solution is required to dissolve the DMT alkaloids and separate it from the plant material.

Now put, along with the bark and vinegar, an excess of raw Zinc dust. I usually use 100g per 1000g mimosa bark (1/10 ratio), leaving behind 10-20 grams for later.

This is a step not found on other teks, but I have found it almost necessary every time. THE REASON: As bark, especially pre-powdered, sits in packages at warehouses and shops, it begins to oxidize. Without vacuum sealing this cannot be helped. Unfortunately, this causes the DMT molecules to also absorb oxygen, creating DMT-N-Oxide. This form of DMT is still psychoactive and usable for its intended purposes, however it does not fully solidify. The Zinc absorbs oxygen, turning into Zinc oxide. The DMT, having lost its oxygen molecule, is now the desired N,N-DMT. Without Zinc you are likely to be left with a brownish-orange goo, somewhat the consistency of earwax. This is a pain to handle and makes a mess, losing precious DMT on skin, surfaces, etc.

Stir and shake this mixture extremely well.

Upon looking at the bottom of the jar, you will notice the heavy metal dust has sunken to the bottom almost immediately. Keep shaking or stirring this mixture every couple hours. This mixture will need to remain together for 24-72 hours. While 24 may be sufficient, the longer it sits the more DMT is likely to be absorbed into the vinegar. Don’t forget to keep mixing every few hours! It is desired that the Zinc remain as spread out as possible, in hopes of coming into contact with each individual DMT molecule. By the time it is ready for filtration, the powdered bark will mostly have turned to a semi-solid foam and the vinegar will be dark, blood-red.

FILTRATION:
Along the bottom of the large pot, lay the cheese cloth (or two), keeping the corners accessible, outside the pot.

The bark will be placed into the cloth, and the acid solution will remain in the pot as the filtration cloth is retrieved.

OPTIONAL (for powdered bark): Place the juicer across the pot. Pour off any excess liquid through the juicer and filter. Then scoop bark into the juicer to about halfway full. Squeeze hard (not so hard to break the juicer) and press any vinegar out of the bark. Repeat this process until all foamy bark debris has been squeezed as dry as possible, discarding the depleted bark each time (you may save this to repeat steps 2 and 4, but this does not always yield enough left-behind DMT to make it worthwhile). After pressing all plant material dry, pour whatever is left in the jar into the cloth filter.

(No juicer) Pour off any excess liquid through the filter. Using a large spoon, put one scoop of solid bark debris from the jar into the filter.
Pull the sides of the filter up, creating a net around what should be a tennis ball-sized lump of bark that made it through the juicer (or per scoop if not using a juicer). Holding the cloth closed to not let any plant matter escape, squeeze this with your hands (use gloves!), pressing out any excess liquid held in the bark. Repeat this step until all bark is out of the jar and squeezed dry. Discard depleted plant material.
You should now be left with somewhere around 1/3 gallon of dark red acidic solution, containing very little visible debris. Using a funnel, pour this solution into the ½ gallon mason jar (or equally distribute into two quart-size jars).

Add what is left of the zinc (10g-20g) to the clean red solution and mix well. Allow this to react for about two hours. The zinc will sink immediately so make sure to keep mixing it fairly often. If you did not remember to keep some from before, don’t worry too much about it. It is mostly precautionary.

ACID-TO-BASE
Using a section of paper towel or a coffee filter, cover the top of your scale (make sure you can still see the display). Weigh out 100g of NaOH. GLOVE UP! Using a wooden spoon, gently stir the solution, slowly adding a few grams of the caustic soda. Continue adding NaOH at a consistent rate until the solution begins to change color (You may not need 100g. If you are using HCl acid, the amount required to basify your acid solution will depend on how dilute your HCl is).

Sodium hydroxide is a very strong base. Adding enough to an acidic solution will cause it to become basic. Since N, N-DMT is soluble in acid, the solution now releases the DMT into the solution, unattached from the vinegar (which at this point is not vinegar anymore). This is why it is called Freebase.

:::CAUTION! Adding NaOH to liquid, especially acidic liquid, induces rapid changes to the molecular structure of both reagents. Rapid reactions create great amounts of heat. The liquid, therefore also the jar itself, will become hot! Perhaps not so hot that it will burn you, but this all depends on how quickly you add the NaOH. Take your time. Add about 5-10g at a time whilst stirring.

The red solution will turn foggy white or gray. At this point, stop adding soda (you may have used more than 100g. If you used two jars, you’ve probably used half or more of what you weighed out). Keep stirring until it is a consistent color. Still stirring, add a little more soda, until the solution turns dark black. If you see yellow or white debris floating around in the solution, keep stirring until it has fully dissolved. You may see a shiny gold layer on top of the solution, these are little Dimitris floating about!

OPTIONAL: Using your pH meter, the solution should read a pH of about 11 or higher. It is now basic, and the N,N-DMT has been released.

EXTRACTION
Using the turkey baster and a glass measuring cup, draw out about 200ml-300ml of naphtha. Add this to the jar(s) containing the basic solution (these measurements may vary depending on what type of jars you are using. Be sure the naphtha layer is a good 2-inches deep.). Place the lid tightly on the jar. Turn the jar upside down a few times, just quickly enough for the dark and light layers to mix a little. Keep doing this for a minute or so. It shouldn’t take more than 30 seconds for the layers to separate fully.
If you’ve read up on DMT extraction, you’ve likely heard of emulsion. Emulsion is when two immiscible (things that don't mix) substances partially mix via bubbles and foam. If you strained carefully, you shouldn’t have much of a problem with this. Lots of plant material in your basic solution will cause an unwanted amount of emulsion. If this is the case, use the bristled end of the cleaner that came attached to the turkey baster. Twirl this around in the emulsion to break the bubbles. You will never get it all, so just do this until you feel no more emulsion is being broken up.

Using the turkey baster again, releasing the balloon slowly, draw off the naphtha layer. Watch carefully and have your eyes at jar level to make sure NO black liquid goes into the baster. Put this naphtha in one of the clean smaller jars.

Repeat steps 1-3 one or two more times. And don’t worry about getting every bit of the naphtha. Once you get close enough, it will become impossible to draw any naphtha without also drawing off the black layer (a separation funnel would solve this issue, but is an unnecessary expense).
The basic solution no longer contains any DMT, and it has a lot of sodium hydroxide in it, so you do not want any of this in your naphtha jars. If you do see a couple spots of it at the bottom of the jars, just pour slowly when you add the naphtha to the baking pan, watching to make sure it doesn’t go into the pan also.

CHOOSE A METHOD:

A) Pour the naphtha into the glass or pyrex pan, and sit somewhere at room temperature to evaporate. After evaporated, you should be left with beautiful, snowball crystal formations scattered across a thick layer of crystals. This will take at least 24 hours. Then scrape the dish clean with a razor.
Putting a fan in front of the pan will speed this process along by up to 6 times faster, but the crystal formations will not be as intricate and defined.

B) Put the jars of naphtha (with lids) in the freezer for 6-12 hours. Longer may yield a few more crystals, but probably not too many.

This method will freeze the DMT, separating it from the naphtha which does not freeze. The naphtha can be poured into a clean jar and reused for another extraction, or evaporated to collect the DMT molecules that didn’t separate. Place the jars with the frozen DMT in front of a fan for about an hour to fully dry it of solvent. Then scrape out the dried DMT crystals with a knife or razor.

Congratulations! You should now have anywhere from 5-10 grams of pure N,N-DMT!

Note: An experienced extractor can complete this method in as little as a single day, but for a first timer you will want to take it easy, make sure you give everything enough time to react.

Enjoy!


Edited by wjbaltimore (09/03/16 04:50 PM)


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Re: Perfect N,N-DMT: The tek for the TOTAL NOOB. [Re: wjbaltimore]
    #23609877 - 09/04/16 12:08 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Seems like a pretty good and simple tek, nice write up! One thing I would add is a hot water bath, this will kill emulsions and allow the alkaloid containing solvent layer to separate from the base layer much faster :smile:


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Re: Perfect N,N-DMT: The tek for the TOTAL NOOB. [Re: buddingshroomer]
    #23611878 - 09/04/16 04:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Would this work for a tek as well? Hbwr preferably.

Pulverize seeds,
Acidify seeds with C4H6O6 dilute 1M polarity mass
Defat with (C6H14)
Dry seed matter
Soak in (C2H6O) 99.5% - 99.99% purity
Acidify (C4H6O6 1M, potentially KoH 1M) to  pH3.5
Defat solution with (DCM or C6H14)
Concentrate,   add to small amount of C2H6O
Evaporate for salts, highly unstable. (keep in aqueous form, more stable)

Debatable: Basify  acidic solution with (NH3 1M) to pH8.5 max
Precipitate with Diethyl-ether to yield visible crystalline free base.
Evaporate
Acidify freebase with dilute C4H6O6 or KoH 1M
Defat with DCM or C6H14
Decant and save aqueous layer.


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Re: Perfect N,N-DMT: The tek for the TOTAL NOOB. [Re: sdef_eht_kcuf] * 1
    #23612446 - 09/04/16 07:36 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Stopped reading at turkey baster.

Best and easiest MHRB tek is the q21q21 dry tek.

I like the zinc dust idea tho.


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Re: Perfect N,N-DMT: The tek for the TOTAL NOOB. [Re: Icon]
    #23618718 - 09/06/16 03:48 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Icon said:
Stopped reading at turkey baster.

Best and easiest MHRB tek is the q21q21 dry tek.

I like the zinc dust idea tho.



I agree 100% q2121 tek is so simple and has ALWAYS produced pure white crystals. I will never do a different tek


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Re: Perfect N,N-DMT: The tek for the TOTAL NOOB. [Re: FruitOfLife]
    #23619164 - 09/06/16 06:09 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I doubt that a noob working with a kilo of bark would be easy. And I've never read where someone leaves it in jars instead of Pyrex dishes. But the zinc dust is a nice touch.


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Re: Perfect N,N-DMT: The tek for the TOTAL NOOB. [Re: wjbaltimore]
    #24489146 - 07/17/17 09:53 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

wjbaltimore said:




And I'm doing away with SWIM, because we all know who he is.






What do you mean???

I follow Swim on Yt and I didn't get the "we all know who he is"
maybe cause I miss some english basis......you don't agree with swim or I've missed something he did??


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Re: Perfect N,N-DMT: The tek for the TOTAL NOOB. [Re: esse_jeremy]
    #24489276 - 07/17/17 11:17 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

:popcorn:


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Re: Perfect N,N-DMT: The tek for the TOTAL NOOB. [Re: Kenetic]
    #24489360 - 07/17/17 11:53 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Kenetic said:
:popcorn:




not my intention to start any flame (usaully popcorn are for watch a good flame)

I'd just like to know if there's a sort of controversy or if he did something bad.

I start to follow him about 1 month ago, I'm not triggered just curious :wink:


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Re: Perfect N,N-DMT: The tek for the TOTAL NOOB. [Re: esse_jeremy]
    #24489377 - 07/17/17 12:02 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

The OP is referring to someone using SWIM as someone who isnt me which alot ofdrug forums use that to help protect themselves but it really doesnt... we dont swim here


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Re: Perfect N,N-DMT: The tek for the TOTAL NOOB. [Re: connectedcosmos]
    #24489402 - 07/17/17 12:12 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

connectedcosmos said:
The OP is referring to someone using SWIM as someone who isnt me which alot ofdrug forums use that to help protect themselves but it really doesnt... we dont swim here




BIG LOLLLL

I didn't know that people use SWIM as a way to avoid(?) consequences


How can people belive that using SWIM instead of ME can work as a protection?!?!!?!?


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Re: Perfect N,N-DMT: The tek for the TOTAL NOOB. [Re: esse_jeremy]
    #24489409 - 07/17/17 12:15 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Idk! I've even seen "my uncles pet monkeys tried this research chemical and these are the effects"

And pretty silly stuff like that when swim is everywhere in a text instead of I it's just hard to read :lol:


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Re: Perfect N,N-DMT: The tek for the TOTAL NOOB. [Re: connectedcosmos] * 1
    #24489441 - 07/17/17 12:36 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

I didn't know anything could get simpler than NoMans Tek.

If you can follow
1 2 3 steps you win.



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    #24491420 - 07/18/17 10:48 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

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Please help without the bullshit [Re: esse_jeremy]
    #24501193 - 07/22/17 05:19 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Wrong forum i know...I first start by saying im guilty of rushing and fucked up...i did the lazyman tek i thought to a T...first pull clear btw cloudy when frozen over night i drained it through the filter got a little crystal but it desinigrated after a minute so guess it was ice..my freezer is probably shitty on temp not mention...so i mixed pulled clear again..left in the window with a fan and evapted alot but when i blow on it doesnt seem to be cloudy i put it in the freezer 45 mins ago and im scared.to.go look..also the container of lye says weight 900g..well weighing it wasnt that spot on or even close cuz i went back to double check everything and somehow i weighed 400g and mind u its only 800ml water and 50g mimosa shedded...someone without jus talking shit please help


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Re: Please help without the bullshit [Re: Dmt444]
    #24523056 - 08/01/17 03:55 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

so No Defatting needed to extract with this tek?

That's cool, looks like a good method to extract large quantity of dmt


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Re: Perfect N,N-DMT: The tek for the TOTAL NOOB. [Re: wjbaltimore]
    #26992101 - 10/18/20 10:22 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

hummm  i wanted to  down load The pdf  Buut it wiill only allow it to be down lloaded as mycrosooft woord doocument . is there aanother place to  sownload that will allowme too use other format
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