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    #23608540 - 09/03/16 04:13 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I'm getting into growing medicinal mushrooms for profit and a study lately, but processing these grains take so long! I soak them in 5 gallon buckets for 24 hours, drain them, throw them into the biggest pot and pan I have for boiling on the stove, I steam dry what I can in a strainer, but there is too much. I end up laying it out on a row of baking sheets, with a fan to help dry them. Next, I've been putting them in extra large filter patch bags, and PCing them @ 22 PSI for 3.5 hours. Sadly, only one bag fits in the 22.5Q pressure cooker at a time. A second one is just barely to big :frown:

I'm looking for a way to soak 50 lbs of grain, boil it preferably in the same container, and then load them into bags for sterilization. Any ideas on how to sterilize large amounts at a time, other than buying more pressure cookers?


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Re: Bulk...everything. [Re: Stargate]
    #23608629 - 09/03/16 04:37 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Build a steamer:shrug: as for grain prep I bucket tek large amounts


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Re: Bulk...everything. [Re: cronicr]
    #23608673 - 09/03/16 04:54 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Build a steamer:shrug: as for grain prep I bucket tek large amounts



There are multiple bucket teks out there. I'm trying to find the grain one, but am not having much luck just yet. Are there any keywords that would help me find the one you're talking about?


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Re: Bulk...everything. [Re: Stargate]
    #23608682 - 09/03/16 04:57 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

There is no tek...I simply boil water and add it to the grain in a five gallon bucket and wait an hour...check the grains moisture n if it's good I drain it out and proceed


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Re: Bulk...everything. [Re: cronicr]
    #23608730 - 09/03/16 05:16 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

For real


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Re: Bulk...everything. [Re: Terpfreak]
    #23608797 - 09/03/16 05:39 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I don't see why not... it's not like he's using it for spawn right after or anything.  Still goes through the sterilization process.  Unless "For real" was intended less to be incredulous and more affirmative.


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Re: Bulk...everything. [Re: cronicr]
    #23608897 - 09/03/16 06:23 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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There is no tek...I simply boil water and add it to the grain in a five gallon bucket and wait an hour...check the grains moisture n if it's good I drain it out and proceed



Are you saying that is for the step after soaking? I soak for 24 hours, in hopes that any endospores will hatch before sterilization.

Do you have a way of sterilizing the grain without a pressure cooker?


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Re: Bulk...everything. [Re: Stargate]
    #23608903 - 09/03/16 06:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

You can steam it for like 8 hours and pray to the deity of your choice, cron's demonstrated that to work pretty well.  I think he used dank nugs instead of prayer though.


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Re: Bulk...everything. [Re: Inocuole]
    #23608963 - 09/03/16 06:46 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I would scale up foomans wbs tek as cron describes, add more time if its a larger grain than wbs.

As for drying them, get some 2x4s and door screen and make a huge drying rack with walls(2x4 tall ways) to keep grain from spilling, and fans.

A steamer would rule, if you find a deal on a couple 941s or better yet sterilizers, just put the fuckin money up and get them


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Re: Bulk...everything. [Re: filthyknees]
    #23609031 - 09/03/16 07:13 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Definitely affirmative :thumbup: learn something new every second on here.


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Re: Bulk...everything. [Re: Terpfreak]
    #23609035 - 09/03/16 07:15 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Been soaking/simmering in my PC and it takes much too long to heat up.


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Re: Bulk...everything. [Re: Inocuole]
    #23609438 - 09/03/16 09:17 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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You can steam it for like 8 hours and pray to the deity of your choice, cron's demonstrated that to work pretty well.  I think he used dank nugs instead of prayer though.



So, he sterilizes using a steamer of sorts? If its big enough to hold more than my pressure cooker, I'm up for it. Where can I find how to do that?


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Re: Bulk...everything. [Re: Stargate]
    #23609528 - 09/03/16 09:44 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

dont be up for it.
i used a steamer for my first run of wbs. 10 pints. only 1 jar survived.
just use your PC in small batches. its not worth the headache.


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Re: Bulk...everything. [Re: mushboy]
    #23609857 - 09/03/16 11:58 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

How do large operations do it?


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Re: Bulk...everything. [Re: Stargate]
    #23610898 - 09/04/16 10:29 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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You can steam it for like 8 hours and pray to the deity of your choice, cron's demonstrated that to work pretty well.  I think he used dank nugs instead of prayer though.



So, he sterilizes using a steamer of sorts? If its big enough to hold more than my pressure cooker, I'm up for it. Where can I find how to do that?




No, but he has before and it worked, that's not to say you should, anybody and everybody would recommend properly PCing it.


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Re: Bulk...everything. [Re: Stargate]
    #23610916 - 09/04/16 10:36 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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How do large operations do it?



They probably use a large pc


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Re: Bulk...everything. [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23610923 - 09/04/16 10:37 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Large sterilizers/steamers actually a lot of the time.  The largest PC you can get is definitely large enough for cubes though.


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Re: Bulk...everything. [Re: Inocuole]
    #23610939 - 09/04/16 10:43 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Large sterilizers/steamers actually a lot of the time.  The largest PC you can get is definitely large enough for cubes though.





I believe RR had posted his before and also Paul stamets had shown a  amazing stainless one I think 20'x10'



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Re: Bulk...everything. [Re: spore-ty]
    #23610965 - 09/04/16 10:55 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Inocuole said:
Large sterilizers/steamers actually a lot of the time.  The largest PC you can get is definitely large enough for cubes though.





I believe RR had posted his before and also Paul stamets had shown a  amazing stainless one I think 20'x10'





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Re: Bulk...everything. [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23610975 - 09/04/16 10:58 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Oh wow I just realized your username.
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