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Re: Some plates [Re: h0ldthedoor]
    #23657041 - 09/18/16 09:12 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Hey htd, if you're going to work with agar, I highly suggest you use petri dishes.  They're the proper tool for the job.  They're also easier to photograph, even with a shitty phone camera.


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Re: Some plates [Re: Mycolorado] * 1
    #23657451 - 09/19/16 12:16 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Pasty plates do the same thing petri dishes do.


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Re: Some plates [Re: Kenetic] * 1
    #23657472 - 09/19/16 12:27 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Pasty plates do the same thing petri dishes do.




Petri dishes have a few pros... but they are not the 'proper tool for the job'...

I have Petri's, 1/2 pint wide mouths, and PP5's all in rotation. They all work the same way.


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Re: Some plates [Re: morty422]
    #23657488 - 09/19/16 12:33 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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kenetic said:
Pasty plates do the same thing petri dishes do.




Petri dishes have a few pros... but they are not the 'proper tool for the job'...

I have Petri's, 1/2 pint wide mouths, and PP5's all in rotation. They all work the same way.





Lol then what is the proper tool for the job.


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Re: Some plates [Re: spore-ty] * 1
    #23657542 - 09/19/16 01:13 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

The 'proper tool for the job' is a vessel that allows you to place a pool of media into it that allows mycelium to grow in it contaminate-free.
This could be:
Plastic Dishes
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etc...

If you tell me that you can get "better growth" from a petri than anyone else could from the same culture in the same type of agar solution from the bottom of a wide mouth 1/2 pint than I'm going to laugh at you.

We're talking about a container that holds a volume of matter.... Nothing more.

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Now I WILL tell you that I have a lot easier of a time seeing growth through a petri than I do my other agar vessels. But, all of them are exactly the same. They all grow the same.

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Re: Some plates [Re: h0ldthedoor]
    #23657548 - 09/19/16 01:17 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Sort of hard to see it while it's through the wall of the container, but it looks nice. I'd keep my eye on that one!


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Re: Some plates [Re: Mycolorado]
    #23657878 - 09/19/16 05:59 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Hey htd, if you're going to work with agar, I highly suggest you use petri dishes.  They're the proper tool for the job.  They're also easier to photograph, even with a shitty phone camera.





nice plates mang!

those reishi plates look like cubensis though.  why are they sectoring? is it MS?


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Re: Some plates [Re: morty422]
    #23657916 - 09/19/16 06:15 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Sort of hard to see it while it's through the wall of the container, but it looks nice. I'd keep my eye on that one!




Here's a more recent pic of the plate, from the album uploaded last night. Can't wait for my storage to "reset" or whatever so the pics can go up here, where they look much better in a post and retain their original order.


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Re: Some plates [Re: h0ldthedoor]
    #23657958 - 09/19/16 06:56 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Good work man your skills are coming along nicely


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Re: Some plates [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23657979 - 09/19/16 07:09 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

man, thats a lot of plate pictures.  when u have a post with a lot of text, or a lot of pictures (unless its a grow log), few people will actually respond to each point (few will actually read it all either).  make ur posts concise and to the point with the highest quality pictures you can.  after a few replies, u can always refine ur questions and ask more according to the answers people replied with.

not sure about the site "resetting" storage??  is that a real thing?

just a tip if ur using crappy phone camera (sometimes its all we got)…take a few shots of the plate, but before uploading them to imgur or the site, check them out.  if they aren't clear, don't post them.  this might be hard with plates, but if i have to use phone camera, i do it outside in natural light for better quality.  maybe try a window.

with my regular camera, any light is fine


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Re: Some plates [Re: blindingleaf]
    #23658036 - 09/19/16 07:48 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, storage limits are a real thing here on Shroomery.org, .

However, as noted in the screenshot above, supporters enjoy unlimited storage space.

Yes, a flagship smartphone camera was used for the shots. Pro-am equipment was used first, but the shots were 'times' worse than the photos taken with the smartphone camera. As someone still new to the hobby, the decision as to whether or not to include photos based on their quality, has been omitted entirely from the posting process. With the rationale being, it's better to include them all for inspection, rather than foolishly remove a photo(s) that other users could have gleaned additional information from.

Sure, opening the lid and snapping a few shots would result in higher quality photos; but doing so remains a clumsy and awkward process. Until more practice has been had with plates that don't matter, shooting this way (One shot through the lid on top, the next through the side of the tub) is the only method this user is comfortable with. Oh and these photos were taken in front of a large window, in a room filled with natural light, a CFL 60w (equivalent) over the makeshift excuse of a photobox and a 5 LED flashlight aimed at one of the walls to refract light at the plate being photographed.


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Re: Some plates [Re: morty422]
    #23658043 - 09/19/16 07:52 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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kenetic said:
Pasty plates do the same thing petri dishes do.




Petri dishes have a few pros... but they are not the 'proper tool for the job'...

I have Petri's, 1/2 pint wide mouths, and PP5's all in rotation. They all work the same way.




Petri dishes are the tool for the job, otherwise every lab in the world would be using your wide mouth half quarts or whatever vessel they had laying around.  Petris are much easier to work with, are low-profile, stack nicely, allow for easier transfers to and from and reduce the risk of contamination due to bad technique (low pro -you don't have to reach down into it like you do a higher-walled vessel.  Look, OP asked for input and I shared. When you respond with shit like you did, it sounds like you just want to argue as opposed to contribute.  If you wanna drive screws with a hammer, knock yourself out.


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Re: Some plates [Re: h0ldthedoor]
    #23658055 - 09/19/16 07:56 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

yes…i understand storage limits.  but what is this "reset"?  i think u need to delete pictures to make space instead?

i don't think u should open the lid of the container….i never said that.  maybe if u already did the xfer.

not sure what to tell you about the phone camera.  i struggle with good shots too unless completely outside.

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Yes, a flagship smartphone camera was used for the shots. Pro-am equipment was used first, but the shots were 'times' worse than the photos taken with the smartphone camera. As someone still new to the hobby, the decision as to whether or not to include photos based on their quality, has been omitted entirely from the posting process. With the rational being, it's better to include them all for inspection, rather than foolishly remove a photo(s) that other users could have gleaned additional information from.




your grammar and punctuation remind me a lot of ham loaf. you use commas in weird places.

anyways, u could also make the argument that the act of uploading blurry photos is just as "foolish" as uploading them with the very small chance someone could make something out, and that that "someone" was knowledgeable enough to tell you whats going on with them.

all im suggesting is that a clear photo will get you better answers, and will be more helpful to others reading the thread, so the short amount of time u need to spend"screening" them before uploading is worth it.


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Re: Some plates [Re: blindingleaf]
    #23658066 - 09/19/16 08:04 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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yes…i understand storage limits.  but what is this "reset"?  i think u need to delete pictures to make space instead?

i don't think u should open the lid of the container….i never said that.  maybe if u already did the xfer.

not sure what to tell you about the phone camera.  i struggle with good shots too unless completely outside.

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Yes, a flagship smartphone camera was used for the shots. Pro-am equipment was used first, but the shots were 'times' worse than the photos taken with the smartphone camera. As someone still new to the hobby, the decision as to whether or not to include photos based on their quality, has been omitted entirely from the posting process. With the rational being, it's better to include them all for inspection, rather than foolishly remove a photo(s) that other users could have gleaned additional information from.




your grammar and punctuation remind me a lot of ham loaf. you use commas in weird places.

anyways, u could also make the argument that the act of uploading blurry photos is just as "foolish" as uploading them with the very small chance someone could make something out, and that that "someone" was knowledgeable enough to tell you whats going on with them.

all im suggesting is that a clear photo will get you better answers, and will be more helpful to others reading the thread, so the short amount of time u need to spend"screening" them before uploading is worth it.



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Can't make out much looks like good growth but I can only assume its myc.
I started with petri dishes, in my opinion the better way to start, because if your good at pouring on Petri's with no contams from the beggining then that's one less thing to worry about if and when you move to Petri's. Pasty plates are great noob tools but a lot of pp5 containers are difficult to see through


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Re: Some plates [Re: blindingleaf] * 1
    #23658214 - 09/19/16 09:16 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Hey htd, if you're going to work with agar, I highly suggest you use petri dishes.  They're the proper tool for the job.  They're also easier to photograph, even with a shitty phone camera.





nice plates mang!

those reishi plates look like cubensis though.  why are they sectoring? is it MS?




That's just what Reishi does in my experience:


I guess it's possible we both have MS cultures, but mine came from a seller who said it's an isolate. :shrug:


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Re: Some plates [Re: Greg]
    #23658267 - 09/19/16 09:39 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Lol I did my t1 transfers on 3rd of sept


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Re: Some plates [Re: blindingleaf]
    #23658333 - 09/19/16 10:10 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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yes…i understand storage limits.  but what is this "reset"?  i think u need to delete pictures to make space instead?

i don't think u should open the lid of the container….i never said that.  maybe if u already did the xfer.

not sure what to tell you about the phone camera.  i struggle with good shots too unless completely outside.

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Yes, a flagship smartphone camera was used for the shots. Pro-am equipment was used first, but the shots were 'times' worse than the photos taken with the smartphone camera. As someone still new to the hobby, the decision as to whether or not to include photos based on their quality, has been omitted entirely from the posting process. With the rational being, it's better to include them all for inspection, rather than foolishly remove a photo(s) that other users could have gleaned additional information from.




your grammar and punctuation remind me a lot of ham loaf. you use commas in weird places.

anyways, u could also make the argument that the act of uploading blurry photos is just as "foolish" as uploading them with the very small chance someone could make something out, and that that "someone" was knowledgeable enough to tell you whats going on with them.

all im suggesting is that a clear photo will get you better answers, and will be more helpful to others reading the thread, so the short amount of time u need to spend"screening" them before uploading is worth it.




Apparently, after checking, it looks like there is only 1,200 KB of space left for photos, total. It also appears the limit will not increase. Deleting photos is the only method to increase free space, unless a supporter status is attained.

Did not mean to give the impression that you suggested to open the lid. This is something that was mentioned in the past as another way to get more clear photos.

Unfortunately, taking photos outside is not viable at this time.

The reference to "ham loaf" is lost, not sure as to what you mean. Yes, uploading clear photos is preferred. Unfortunately, it's not always possible to take photographs that reflect the desired level of clarity/focus. Petri dishes are ideal for photographing due to their design. However, petri dishes can be difficult to source locally.

For what it's worth, it's so much easier to see in person, than through the lens of a camera. Though it's unlikely anyone wants to drop by for a house call, :rofl:


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Re: Some plates [Re: Greg]
    #23658586 - 09/19/16 12:04 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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blindingleaf said:
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Mycolorado said:
Hey htd, if you're going to work with agar, I highly suggest you use petri dishes.  They're the proper tool for the job.  They're also easier to photograph, even with a shitty phone camera.





nice plates mang!

those reishi plates look like cubensis though.  why are they sectoring? is it MS?




That's just what Reishi does in my experience:


I guess it's possible we both have MS cultures, but mine came from a seller who said it's an isolate. :shrug:




Not sure, could just be reishi mycelial characteristics as Greg suggests or it might be that it's not a monoculture?  I've never grown reishi before so don't have any experience.  Another member on the gourmet board was kind enough to send me a couple dowels.  I'll use one plate to create spawn and work on isolating the other and see what happens...


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Re: Some plates [Re: Mycolorado]
    #23660662 - 09/20/16 04:13 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

hmmm i dunno then.  TBH, been a hot minute since I had a reishi plate out, so maybe I'm just remembering wrong:lol:

either way, u guys have some nice looking plates:cool::mushroom2:


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Re: Some plates [Re: blindingleaf]
    #23661252 - 09/20/16 10:28 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Like leaf said a long ass post will rarely be read my thumb hurts from scrolling down this page haha looking good man


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