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Offlineak47myth
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Re: Kratom - first timer [Re: Peyote Road]
    #23606135 - 09/02/16 08:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I always make sure to eat before i dose.. i will often feel sick if i dont.

Im a daily kratom user.. use about 2-4g as a standard dose. One time i woke up and didnt eat and decided to dose. I was more dizzy than anything else ive ever experienced, it was AWFUL. So ive learned that i cant take kratom on an empty stomach.


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Re: Kratom - first timer [Re: ak47myth]
    #23607021 - 09/03/16 06:28 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Assuming we lose the battle and it becomes illegal, don't worry...it's on the darkweb already :smile: also, if you haven't signed the whitehouse petition please do so...we're doing well so far. Thanks


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Re: Kratom - first timer [Re: Jvells]
    #23607031 - 09/03/16 06:41 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Done.

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Re: Kratom - first timer [Re: Nature Boy]
    #23607349 - 09/03/16 09:31 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I got curious about Kratom a couple months ago and ordered a verity of samples. Got a few 10gram bags and some 28 gram bags, all with different "names". It all looks and smells the same but the potency differs from bag to bag.

I stuff it into 00 capsules. I'm able to get a little under 1 gram into each pill. From the strongest bag, I can feel one capsule. From the weaker stuff it takes 2 or 3 pills and sometimes I'm not sure I feel anything.

I like Kratom. I do light doses and I like the mild stimulation and warm fuzzy feeling. The only problem is that it doesn't last long. The opiate that I like is Tramadol. I ended up with a big bottle of it when my dad died and I've been taking one about once a week. That stuff is great and it lasts long-  like 8 hours. Kratom lasts about 2 hours for me. I'm thinking about dumping the Tramadol in the trash because it scares me a little and I don't want to get hooked on it, and that's why I decided to try Kratom. A little bit of that opiate feeling once in a while is really nice.


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Re: Kratom - first timer [Re: Nature Boy]
    #23608012 - 09/03/16 01:08 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Nature Boy said:
Done.

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Much much appreciated


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Re: Kratom - first timer [Re: Jvells]
    #23608626 - 09/03/16 04:37 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I deal in kratom (yeah, jokes on me, my business is about to be shut down), and I can say with confidence that even the strongest kratom, even for a first time user, I wouldn't recommend any less than 5 grams. If you're trying to get "high", it's going to take more than that.

Just my $0.02 ....


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Re: Kratom - first timer [Re: wjbaltimore]
    #23608697 - 09/03/16 05:03 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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wjbaltimore said:
....I can say with confidence that even the strongest kratom, even for a first time user, I wouldn't recommend any less than 5 grams. If you're trying to get "high", it's going to take more than that.

Just my $0.02 ....






5g, taken with no tolerance, would be too much for me, or right on the verge of being too much....2g with no tolerance is a perfect dose to get me feeling euphoric but not "loaded".

When I give kratom to people that have no previous or recent history of opioid use, I always give them around 2g to start off with (about a level teaspoon). Most of them experience a pleasant buzz and pronounced effects, 2 people I know barely felt it or didn't have much to say about it at that dosage.




Already mentioned, but I've been using this leaf daily for many years now and 5g is still what I consider to be a relatively high dose. Around 5g to 6g taken at once can put me into a nod (even after using it for years), anything beyond that and it's too much (I start getting nauseated, dizzy, light headed, hot & sweaty, hard to focus/concentrate on things, just dysphoric in general).

After almost 5 years....2g taken two to three times a day is still plenty sufficient for what I use the leaf for (anxiety, mood lift, energy, an absolutely massive boost in stamina, pain killer)...and 4g to 5g is my "Sweet spot" if I'm looking to get a nice full on euphoric buzz.





I'm starting to think my opioid receptors/system is much different/much different sensitivity than most people :strokebeard: .






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Re: Kratom - first timer [Re: openmind]
    #23609308 - 09/03/16 08:37 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I have no luck with premilled kratom.
I got 13g as a sample with an order of red vain MD kratom ground leaf.

The milled stuff was something red Thai.
Anyway, I boiled my first tea with the red Thai pre milled kratom 5 grams.
Not much effect I could concern from placebo.
Next day re used the 5grams and added 4 more of the same red Thai pre milled. Total of 9 grams brewed.
Same thing.

So two days later I decided fuck it and reused the red Thai 9 grams and add 4 grams of the red vain MD.
Total of 12-13grams tea. Got pretty damn high.

Idk if it was the leaves but the tea came out so much stronger than the two times I made it with just pre milled stuff.

Maybe it's just coincidence.


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Re: Kratom - first timer [Re: impaired420]
    #23609538 - 09/03/16 09:46 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

OP, I have been taking Kratom for about 7 years now, so I have a few tips for you that may help improve your experience. For your first time, you want to go more around 3-5g for a noteworthy experience (I have taken 10g every day for the past 4 years lol). For best results, do not eat anything for around 2-3hr before taking it.

I like to take a Turmeric Supplement (potentiates), 6oz of Grapefruit juice (potentiates), and Ginger Supplement (prevents nausea) 45min before taking the kratom. Just trust me and use the toss and wash method with Orange Juice instead of wasting your time with caps (they coat your stomach and greatly subtract from the experience imo). Trust me when I say you will get used to the bitterness and even come to like it (with time).

I love this herb and it breaks my heart that the DEA is trying to fuck it up. I have been in such good health (body and mind) since beginning taking it, have so much more energy, and am almost never sick. I hope you enjoy it!


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Re: Kratom - first timer [Re: br33zy]
    #23610486 - 09/04/16 07:54 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Kratom is something that gets much better the more you develop a relationship with it. Its very common for people to be disappointed and underwhelmed at first mostly because they expect too much but also because the effects are difficult to distinguish at first.

I think this is because Kratom is mainly a feeling as oppose to a headspace although it can get pretty dreamy and even hallucinogenic if you've taken alot of it and are nodding out blissfully. But you cant really take it with the intention to get high or nod out as it doesnt really work like that but rather sometimes just happens.

I get some great Green Malay but even with that Kratom (the best I have so far found) I need about 5 grams.


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Re: Kratom - first timer [Re: wolf8312]
    #23610511 - 09/04/16 08:04 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Kratom is by far one of the best natural herbs on the planet.  Next to weed, kratom is most amazing.  They want to make it illegal because they are the antichrist.  I can't even order it to my state any longer.

All else that I can say is that it made life much better, and it is bad for your teeth.  In my experience, about the teeth.  lol
The gums tend to recede a slight bit, which heals once you stopped using it.

That stuff is next to weed and people with depression even, should be prescribed crushed leaf.  It will almost definitely work.  A sad world we live in where a thing like that is made illegal.  The people running the show are money hungry sicko-fuckos.  That's how shit gets scary eventually, and kratom becoming a controlled substance is no exception. 

Meanwhile...  Who cares, right?  Let the police rape you on a side road somewhere.


Edited by fractalsybolism (09/04/16 08:07 AM)


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Re: Kratom - first timer [Re: fractalsybolism]
    #23611247 - 09/04/16 12:29 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I took my morning dose of maeng da earlier but u had forgot I didn't eat dinner last night and God did I get the wobbles. Felt like the worst low blood sugar of my life. Tuna sandwich cleared it up though. Love my kratom!


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