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Tubs are starting to..nothing
    #23604511 - 09/02/16 12:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Hey guys, I lost my account from years ago. Cant figure out what email i used and now its lost, oh well haha

I was a BRF cake guy and decided when I jumped back in it was Agar, Grains and Tubs time.

So mid/late July I ran some old prints i've had onto agar, and a few ms syringes.

Having never done tubs, now I'm in the panic mode of does this look right, are the times correct because its 30+ days in.

(x2) PES Amazonian MS -> 2qt rye -> 4qt Spawn (3.5 coir & .5 verm)
Spawned on 8/24

Z Strain Agar -> 2qt rye -> 4qt Spawn (3.5 coir & .5 verm)
Spawned on 8/26

Now the tubs are dialed in, and what I would say is fully colonized and much like a sick person who searches webMD I have nothing but fear and doubt about whats going on in there as they have been (what I think is) fully colonized for a while

Each tub has a 1.5" set of holes stuffed with polly per Frank's Tek, smells a little stale in in there but very mushroomy at the same time..
What concerns me is that everything was reaching for the sky when it broke through now theres a lot of "fluff balls" and kinda "foamy" looking.

Any one have ideas thoughts, I pray its not Stoma or Wet Bubble. Maybe I just need to stop checking and let nature take its course :grin:

PES A Tub#1


PES A Tub #2


Z Tub




Thanks!
-Ghost


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Re: Tubs are starting to..nothing [Re: ghostpepper7]
    #23604521 - 09/02/16 12:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

They don't look too bad to me but you could mist them a bit more they have only been fruiting for about a week it can take up to two weeks sometimes longer but give it some more time and mist I have surface issues myself keeping the beads of water


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Re: Tubs are starting to..nothing [Re: Boogieman47]
    #23605352 - 09/02/16 04:36 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Do you have liners in those?


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Re: Tubs are starting to..nothing [Re: TheLongComma]
    #23605602 - 09/02/16 06:05 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

@noob47 Yeah, i have the little beads on the surface, and they seem to evaporate and come back throughout the the day, maybe I just need to have a little bit more patience and just let them do there thing

@TheLongComma They do not have liners in there, right up on the wall. The tubs have blackout tape around the surface level and completely underneath

Might give it the long weekend and take another picture to compare growth and see where I'm at then


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Re: Tubs are starting to..nothing [Re: ghostpepper7]
    #23605684 - 09/02/16 06:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I don't see what you're worried about.  Honestly you probably just put it into fruiting conditions too early, which just means the sub will take some extra time to consolidate before it fruits.  Depending on how early you started giving fresh air is directly proportional to the time it takes to eventually fruit.

I don't know if you noticed, but I see knots on the PESA tubs.  It's about to flush it look like.  The Z tub, maybe a week behind.


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Re: Tubs are starting to..nothing [Re: Mushierage]
    #23606287 - 09/02/16 09:34 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

The knotting seems to look really great. My understanding is that instead of blackout tape around the outside, it's preferable to have a liner. (I've been told that a microclimate that forms as the substrate shrinks slightly, rather than exposure to light, is a main trigger of side pinning.) I assume the former won't hurt your case, but a liner would probably benefit your next tub.

I agree with Mushierage; your PES tubs look solid. I'm excited to see those pin.


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Re: Tubs are starting to..nothing [Re: r.lutece]
    #23617625 - 09/06/16 09:57 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Mushierage said:
I don't know if you noticed, but I see knots on the PESA tubs.  It's about to flush it look like.  The Z tub, maybe a week behind.




I said id give it the long weekend, and being the worry wort that I am, I needed to have patience

Z Tub :grin: look at that little guy(s)



Since I'm not doing this for profit or lifestyle.. purely an enjoyable hobbyist, I cased with peat one of the PESA tubs, and let the other one go

PESA #1


PESA #2


While both of the PESA's have some knots, I like the how the peat has mellowed the top and brought some organization to the tub.


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r.lutece said:
My understanding is that instead of blackout tape around the outside, it's preferable to have a liner. (I've been told that a microclimate that forms as the substrate shrinks slightly, rather than exposure to light, is a main trigger of side pinning.) I assume the former won't hurt your case, but a liner would probably benefit your next tub.




I agree, I just didnt want to sit and tape the inside of the container and worry about external contams to. I was able to clean and 10% bleach the sides of the tub and then load it up. Maybe I'll go liner in the next tubs, I have 6 more qts of rye that came from the GM and a batch of Agar going to clone the biggest baddest that pops up..

Ill post as they continue :smile:


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Re: Tubs are starting to..nothing [Re: ghostpepper7]
    #23619004 - 09/06/16 05:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I don't think you have to tape anything to the inside; I'm pretty sure it gets lined with a garbage bag (or similar) that is held down by the substrate as opposed to taped in place. That way it can change size with your sub.

Looking forward to updates!


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Re: Tubs are starting to..nothing [Re: r.lutece]
    #23625700 - 09/08/16 12:33 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Hahah totally going with a liner next time, the sub is starting to pull away from the container and Hellooooo side pins. More side pins and fruits than the top :tongue:

Going to have to find a safe and careful way to harvest them once they mature without damaging the sub.

Ill drop some pics tonight


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Re: Tubs are starting to..nothing [Re: ghostpepper7]
    #23625707 - 09/08/16 12:36 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I have one of those like hobby cutting knives you know the ones like a pen that you twist to get the blade out I just cut them with that and use it and one finger to pull them up


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Re: Tubs are starting to..nothing [Re: Boogieman47]
    #23626906 - 09/08/16 07:14 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

That seems like a good plan. A scalpel or Xacto knife would also probably do the job well.


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Re: Tubs are starting to..nothing [Re: r.lutece]
    #23633477 - 09/10/16 06:36 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Going to use the hobby knife, cause these buggers are all over the sides..

but as promised, here are the Z's - not sure why these are so fat and short?


And PESA #2 (the cased one, the other one still isnt doing a thing but knotting)


So, what do you guys thing?


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