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InvisibleMoonshoe
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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Lucis]
    #23603157 - 09/01/16 11:06 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I ordered 2 kilos of kratom before the ban, which doesn't effect Canada so far anyway.

However, if kratom became unavailable, I know drugs that i would use to replace it would potentially include:

SAMe
Tianeptine
Pregabalin/Gabapentin
Modafinil/Armodafinil
Isopropylphenidate
Myrrh


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: The Cheshire Cat]
    #23603193 - 09/01/16 11:20 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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The Cheshire Cat said:
Could really give less a S#!T man. I would rather see all drugs get legalized. War on drugs is a Failure, same with prohibition of alcohol(more addictive drug than kratom), war on prostitution, All HUGE failures!!
If people can recover from alcoholism, i'm pretty f*&%ing sure they can recover from kratom dependence. People need to stop dictating to others what THEY do with their bodies. What they do, it's their choice.

I find it F*&king halarious i can go buy alcohol, but not buy valium or benzos because they are scheduled.  What makes Kratom Tea anymore dangerous than alcohol. Please facts...
:loldongs:



Well, for one kratom gets people off of heroin.

I'm just repeating what the dea said. This stuff is especially concerning because it helps people get off heroin.

IT HELPS PEOPLE GET OFF HEROIN!

QUICK, BAN SUBOXONE AND IT'S WHOLE FAMILY, WE NEED TO GET PEOPLE BACK ON THE HORSE SO WE CAN LOCK THEM UP!!! THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!

:suicide:


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Not LSD, you can't get addicted to LSD, it was built by scientists.

I ain't got no demons that gonna get woke.


In erowid we trust.

Just take your damn pills and don't ask any questions, you'll be fine.

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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
    #23603199 - 09/01/16 11:24 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I'm sure lots of Pharmaceutical companies have their fingers in the Heroin trade, that way they make money on both fronts, getting people hooked on the drug, and giving people the drugs to get them off of the drugs. :lol:

Either way, it's real fucked up.
I can think of a wide variety of substances that are readily available online that are 100x more harmful then Kratom, and someone said earlier that it was isolated to online groups, not true. The entire town (small town) I live in, almost all of their people on probation use Kratom regularly.

The reason the magnifying glass hit Kratom is because it's safe, easy to use and readily available, a big no no in a country where you're legally not allowed to get high or ingest whatever substance you wished.


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
    #23603229 - 09/01/16 11:34 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Quitting heroin destroys families and communities.


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23603268 - 09/01/16 11:52 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I'm sure states are gonna love an increased opiate epidemic like they have never seen before. :rolleyes:

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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: tdubz] * 1
    #23603324 - 09/02/16 12:14 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Big Pharma looking to expand their pockets. All growable medicinal herbs will be schedule 1'ed by the time they are through with it
What a time to be alive

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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: plasma]
    #23603353 - 09/02/16 12:28 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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plasma said:
Big Pharma looking to expand their pockets. All growable medicinal herbs will be schedule 1'ed by the time they are through with it
What a time to be alive



I seriously don't want to live in this country anymore. And i don't have funds to move. This is seriously fucking my head right now.

I really wish i could just rewind to my first kratom dose. Or back to that time i somehow dosed so high on no tolerance i put myself into a 9 hour coma. It was a solid 9 hour fever dream of lucidity like i never knew existed. The whole time in my dream i would take a massive dose of psychadelics (and actually feel them) and had no fear cause i knew i was dreaming. Each psychadelic knocked me into another sleep and dream where i took a different.

I only actually took kratom, but in my dream i, took so many shrooms i knocked myself out and dreamt of taking so much acid i knocked myself out and took so much mescaline i knocked myself out and took all three. I flew to saturn and though "SHIT I GOTTA WORK?" Then BAM

awake. I would do anything to get back to that place. Well the dea decided i can't. Period.

:sad: :supersad: :crying: :bawling :bawlingmyeyesout: :nograemcanexpressthepainandsorrowifeelrightnow: :thisworldisnothingbutshit: :fuckthedea: :ripkratom2016youwillbemissed: :comfortablynumbnomore:


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Not LSD, you can't get addicted to LSD, it was built by scientists.

I ain't got no demons that gonna get woke.


In erowid we trust.

Just take your damn pills and don't ask any questions, you'll be fine.

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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
    #23603407 - 09/02/16 12:48 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

:eek:

How much kratom did you eat for that? Damn :lol:


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: musiclover420]
    #23603426 - 09/02/16 12:56 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, like I'm trying to nod off it right now an for me it's pretty much impossible I have musta ate like close to (15-20gs) I'm getting the pain relief an the itch but nodding is like not even close I know for some people they can nod on very little everyone is different holds true I guess.

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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: tdubz]
    #23603435 - 09/02/16 01:00 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Tldr soni can legally buy it online up until sep 29?


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Plain]
    #23603511 - 09/02/16 01:44 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I signed the white house petition. The DEA has proven themselves to be obsolete liars, with this just following their decision to keep cannabis schedule 1.

I'm looking to spend up to $50 to stock up; anyone have a vendor recommendation?

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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: ScriabinAnime]
    #23603519 - 09/02/16 01:48 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

can't really recommend non shroomery supporters but there is one that ends in .us domain for $100 a kilo

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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: tdubz]
    #23603533 - 09/02/16 01:56 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Indeed, it's tempting but I'm in poverty right now. The only shroomery vendor I've seen yet is krakenkratom and the prices seem a bit high but I may settle with that.

I'll actually take a strain recommendation; I was planning on maeng da since it got good reviews.

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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: tdubz]
    #23603535 - 09/02/16 01:57 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

The maeng da caps had me in the best nod of my life

https://www.kratomcapsules.com


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: ScriabinAnime]
    #23603551 - 09/02/16 02:07 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Plain said:
Tldr soni can legally buy it online up until sep 29?



Quote:

ScriabinAnime said:
I signed the white house petition. The DEA has proven themselves to be obsolete liars, with this just following their decision to keep cannabis schedule 1.

I'm looking to spend up to $50 to stock up; anyone have a vendor recommendation?




World seed supply's "kratom collection" which is a shroomery sponsor selling kilos of ma da for 75 bucks. 
I've been using them for over 3 years. Best vender I've ever used.


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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Plain]
    #23603552 - 09/02/16 02:10 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Plain said:
The maeng da caps had me in the best nod of my life

https://www.kratomcapsules.com



Are those extracts or something? Trying to figure out if these are worth the purchase, or if capsuling them yourself would be significantly more economical.

Edit: Just read that they aren't extracted.

Edited by PatrickKn (09/02/16 02:20 AM)

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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: PatrickKn]
    #23603571 - 09/02/16 02:28 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

kraken is good but sorta pricey you can get way more somewhere else but kraken has good quality.

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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23603589 - 09/02/16 02:49 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Looks like kratomcollection is selling for $300+ a kilo rather than $75. Regardless, I now realize why I haven't gotten earlier; I can't find a vendor that accepts paypal. I've gone through 10+ sites that don't accept paypal... Anyone know of one that does?

~legalize plants

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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: ScriabinAnime]
    #23603601 - 09/02/16 03:05 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

ScriabinAnime said:
Looks like kratomcollection is selling for $300+ a kilo rather than $75. Regardless, I now realize why I haven't gotten earlier; I can't find a vendor that accepts paypal. I've gone through 10+ sites that don't accept paypal... Anyone know of one that does?

~legalize plants




It's listed as 300 but if you email them your order and say you want it through squared they should say $75. Just hit them with a email I swear it's 75 because I just got some.

Edit: never mind I don't think they do paypal.

Edited by Eggtimer (09/02/16 03:10 AM)

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Re: PSA: Kratom is about to be placed Scheduled 1 by the DEA [Re: ScriabinAnime]
    #23603642 - 09/02/16 03:42 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Just spent a while sending this bad boy to the justice department at https://www.justice.gov/doj/webform/your-message-department-justice

"I am absolutely appalled at the recent decisions made by the DEA regarding the plants Cannabis and Kratom, but also with their system in general. To maintain cannabis as a schedule 1 drug without any medical uses is completely wrong and false. I see no reason whatsoever why a lying, private-interest motivated organization should have SUCH an enormous influence over laws regarding our access to nature and its remedies, or why they should effectively have a monopoly on research. More recently, the DEA has declared its intention to place Kratom on Schedule 1. Kratom's medical uses for recovering opiod/heroin addicts, among others, is(typo) well documented. The DEA chooses not only to ignore evidence that disfavors their prohibitionist agenda, but to propagate lies to society and the uninformed. What the DEA has done is unforgivable, and I will never overlook this organization or its mandates until they are rectified; with legalization. "

I would have loved to include how my life is torture without cannabis to medicate with, or other desirable psychedelics (shrooms)... but I chose to keep everything legal.  I can barely do anything but lie in bed all day and play computer games, when I would like to be spending this time forwarding my career. It's pretty sad that I don't know anyone to get weed from for 8 months now.

~ Keep up the good fight fellas. For legalization. truth. rightness. https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/please-do-not-make-kratom-schedule-i-substance

Edited by ScriabinAnime (09/02/16 03:44 AM)

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