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jivangilad
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excessive water truffle jar
#23603532 - 09/02/16 01:55 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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This are ATL#7 grown on rye. Took about a month to fully colonize and this is about month and half after colonization. truffles are forming but very slowly. I see a lot of water forming in the jar lately. Actually there were no water after full colonization.
It might be that in my preparation I used too much water. (I skipped soaking steaming etc. just water and rye straight in PC in jar). Or maybe this is the heat average 33 celsius. Anyway, should I open jar and throw the water?
Edited by jivangilad (09/02/16 01:57 AM)
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Re: excessive water truffle jar [Re: jivangilad]
#23603563 - 09/02/16 02:20 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Do not open the jar. It's part of aging process for the myc. More age plus stress equals stones. Looks bacteria or emezyen related. If bacteria is the case idk what to tell you about leaking it out in a clean way. But you open the lidd your screwed.
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Re: excessive water truffle jar [Re: tump]
#23604568 - 09/02/16 12:48 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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tump said: Do not open the jar. It's part of aging process for the myc. More age plus stress equals stones. Looks bacteria or emezyen related. If bacteria is the case idk what to tell you about leaking it out in a clean way. But you open the lidd your screwed.
I don“t understand the answer. Do you suggest leaving it as is, or removing the water in a clean way? Do you say that because it is bacteria, I should remove the water, in a clean way?
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Re: excessive water truffle jar [Re: jivangilad]
#23604963 - 09/02/16 02:53 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Im saying no leave it in there.
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Re: excessive water truffle jar [Re: jivangilad]
#23610136 - 09/04/16 03:57 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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jivangilad said: Or maybe this is the heat average 33 celsius.
33C (91.4F) is very hot, can you find cooler place. I presume they are at room temperature and that you are not actively heating them more.
This is a quote from Workman (who developed the ATL strain) talking about growing mexicana stones
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But you are incubating at too high of temperature for quality sclerotia. I am incubating at 85F just until I see the start of sclerotia (to speed full colonization) and then lower the temperature to room temps 68-72F by bringing it into the kitchen. I just put them in a brown paper bag on a shelf and leave them alone. I have noticed that overly high temps causes excessive buildup of metabolites (yellow mycelium piss) and that can't be good.
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Re: excessive water truffle jar [Re: blackout]
#23611345 - 09/04/16 01:05 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Unfortunately I can do nothing about the heat. Only thing I can do is wait for the winter and grow new ones. Maybe start inoculation one or two months before winter. Winter here is just 4 months, so it means this is only time of year that makes sense to grow truffles.
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