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3.5g for a spiritually beneficial trip?
    #23600011 - 09/01/16 05:12 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Hey people,

I'm getting hold of an eighth of golden caps soon and I am very much interested in delving into my own psyche throughout the trip, with the intent of having a beneficial experience to help me grow as a person, avoiding recreational purpose.

This will be my 3rd time on shrooms (1g, 2g, now 3.5g two months later).

I am interested by the McKenna method of tripping in silent darkness, so I have some questions for the more experienced trippers out there:

- What kind of steps could I take to have an 'educational' trip?
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- Would it be worthwhile to take 3.5g in silent darkness?

t'anks :smile:

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Re: 3.5g for a spiritually beneficial trip? [Re: Galactic]
    #23600514 - 09/01/16 09:44 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

welcome to the shroomery

mackenna said that you should take 5g not 3.5g but i havent tried it anyway!

just make sure you are in a very comfortable setting, 3.5g is a very good dose, enjoy mate.

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Re: 3.5g for a spiritually beneficial trip? [Re: oontribe]
    #23601009 - 09/01/16 12:35 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

do it! in silent darkness if possible.
its just hard to push yourself to actually do it and stay in darkness the whole time cus you want to explore and do things, not sure why that is, but at the peak i always find a very calm place and am alone with my thoughts and go deep into my psyche, this is why set and setting is so crucial
the less distracting things(silent darkness being no distractions at all), the more you can go into your subconscious and explore your own mind


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Re: 3.5g for a spiritually beneficial trip? [Re: ergoticmandala] * 1
    #23601018 - 09/01/16 12:37 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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- What kind of steps could I take to have an 'educational' trip?



there are no real steps, simply write down on a piece of paper and think about your intentions going into the trip as well as the days before the trip, then you have in mind what you aim to get out of it, however don't "expect" anything, simply take what it has to offer
go with the flow and don't freak out if they want to overpower your ego


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Re: 3.5g for a spiritually beneficial trip? [Re: ergoticmandala]
    #23601063 - 09/01/16 12:49 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

It should be a good time, but you'll need a dose of 5 to 7 grams to get the McKenna level 5 type of trips. 3.5 grams is a very good standard dose that is a strong level 3 type of experience, not the McKenna level though. I personally would advise having a playlist of chill music for the trip at 3.5 grams as it wont be enough to completely detach you from reality like 5+ gram doses do. Furthermore i'd say 3.5 grams is the perfect next step for you, those large mega doses of 7 grams etc are not for everyone.

good vibes :mushroom2:

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Re: 3.5g for a spiritually beneficial trip? [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #23601077 - 09/01/16 12:54 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

3.5 grams is most certainly "McKenna level" for some. Psilocybin sensitivities vary, and it's very possible to hit level 5 trips off that dose. McKenna himself stopped taking 5+ Gs after bugging out.


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Re: 3.5g for a spiritually beneficial trip? [Re: Dark_Star]
    #23601907 - 09/01/16 05:10 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I agree 3.5 gram can definitely produce a very strong experience and I am sure Mckenna would not have any problem with people starting off a little bit lower and then working their way up.

Mckenna started the five gram thing because he wanted to make sure people were getting what he considered to be the full experience but there is definitely wiggle room there. There is nothing super special about 5 grams that makes it different from other dosages, it's just meant to guarantee a very strong trip.

Personally Ive never spent a  whole trip in silent darkness as I tend to find it very difficult to resist listening to music which is my favorite thing to do while tripping. I will sometimes spend part of a trip in silent darkness though. I just cant imagine going through a whole trip without at least listening to some drumming or something.

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Re: 3.5g for a spiritually beneficial trip? [Re: Peyote Road]
    #23602307 - 09/01/16 07:01 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

It depends on how potent the shrooms are. But 3.5 should be enough to do what you are looking for.

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Re: 3.5g for a spiritually beneficial trip? [Re: Contrast]
    #23602349 - 09/01/16 07:12 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Haha personally for me I love tripping in complete silence. Just waiting in silent darkness for the trip to start, and staying that way for the entire trip. I enjoy music on some Psychedelics, but not shrooms personally.

You've already got the best setup for getting an "educational" trip. Silent darkness is the way to go.

And yeah, 5 grams at minimum is what you want for the 'McKenna', diving balls-deep, touching the core of your soul - kind of trip. But you can have deep trips on 3.5 grams as well and it would definitely be worth doing 3.5 in silent darkness. It'd be great, I'm sure.

Sounds like you've already got it figured out really. Go for it, and I hope you go deep. :thumbup:


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Re: 3.5g for a spiritually beneficial trip? [Re: mctaveesh]
    #23602385 - 09/01/16 07:21 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Music on shrooms are are awsome...

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Re: 3.5g for a spiritually beneficial trip? [Re: mctaveesh]
    #23602387 - 09/01/16 07:23 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I love music on shrooms. I wouldn't say shrooms are as good for music as LSD or mescaline but when you get in a groove on shrooms there is nothing more sublime.  I love how shrooms warp and distort everyhing and make it all seem so mysterious and magical.


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Re: 3.5g for a spiritually beneficial trip? [Re: Peyote Road]
    #23602517 - 09/01/16 08:00 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I really should try to get a good playlist setup and try to really go through with listening to music while on shrooms.

I really like music on 2CB. On Mushrooms, the times I've had music playing while tripping, I usually let the music play for a while and then get to a point where I'm like "No. I need to turn the music off."

i feel like it gets in the way of what I'm trying to see. Same thing with DMT. Even on 2CB as well I usually get to a point where I just want to lay down in silence and just look.

Even on MDMA this happened! Can you believe that? I was enjoying music more than I ever had before in my life on my first MDMA roll. Then I got to a point in the roll where I just thought "No. No music." It was right then when I got CEV's on MDMA too. Surprised me.

I dunno. For me music is a sober or stoned kind of thing. Not for Psychedelics really.

I probably should just make myself do it during a mushroom trip one day though. :tongue:


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Re: 3.5g for a spiritually beneficial trip? [Re: oontribe]
    #23602641 - 09/01/16 08:33 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Music on shrooms are are awsome...



Yes! :aweyeah:

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Re: 3.5g for a spiritually beneficial trip? [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #23602880 - 09/01/16 09:41 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Whats' all you guys' favorite music to listen to on shrooms?

I remember on some thread I said that European Folk Music and Black Metal seemed fitting for the mushroom trips I have. That's cause I usually get into some super-brutal chanting and howling and what not when I go deep with the mushrooms.

But I could imagine that not turning out too well. Lol.

Well maybe the folk music would be good. :tongue:


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Re: 3.5g for a spiritually beneficial trip? [Re: Galactic]
    #23603070 - 09/01/16 10:31 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Galactic said:
What kind of steps could I take to have an 'educational' trip?




Take the mushroom alone and on an empty stomach and that's it and and of course being mentally prepared to sort of "travel" somewhere else and to have your boundaries dissolved. I go in with an ascetic attitude about it and and come in with great respect.

There's no real steps you have to take to have an "educational" trip, it's not something you have to strain for or anything. You don't have to suspend any doubts or beliefs you just let the learning take place and let the experience unfold.

As for the question about being worthwhile in silent darkness yes most definitely. And this is coming from someone who usually likes to trip outside during the daytime.

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Re: 3.5g for a spiritually beneficial trip? [Re: mctaveesh]
    #23604146 - 09/02/16 09:55 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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mctaveesh said:
Whats' all you guys' favorite music to listen to on shrooms?




For me and my friends Jefferson Airplane typically as well as other classic shit usually.

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Re: 3.5g for a spiritually beneficial trip? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23604504 - 09/02/16 12:16 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Hell yeah. I'll probably get some of that, some of the good folksy/weird Zeppelin music, and other good old rock n roll and folk stuff.

My next mushroom trip will be my first musical one. :strokebeard:


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Re: 3.5g for a spiritually beneficial trip? [Re: Galactic]
    #23604542 - 09/02/16 12:39 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Just make sure you enjoy it and don't think over think it haha.

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Re: 3.5g for a spiritually beneficial trip? [Re: Occazn]
    #23604915 - 09/02/16 02:45 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

You might want to try a 2.5 g and 3 g trip before the 3.5.  I went from 1.8 to 3.5 and ran smack into the wall.  Very intense and you've never tried it before.


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Re: 3.5g for a spiritually beneficial trip? [Re: mctaveesh]
    #23605774 - 09/02/16 06:54 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

mctaveesh said:
Hell yeah. I'll probably get some of that, some of the good folksy/weird Zeppelin music, and other good old rock n roll and folk stuff.

My next mushroom trip will be my first musical one. :strokebeard:




ya Zeppelin can really add to the mysterious/fantasy quality of mushrooms. It's like a mystical band in itself.

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