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Re: Why 100 micrograms? [Re: Dark_Star]
#23605962 - 09/02/16 08:05 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said: 100 mics is a good dose.
I'm sure it is but who has ever done a quantitative assay on their acid to find out how many micrograms is on it. I see all these folks in this thread talking about how much is there but unless they're the ones that dissolved the crystal then how the fuck do they know how much is there
know what all this shit sounds like?
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I guess its also a matter of experience or taking the word of the person who tells you even tho most of the time thats bullshit anyways. Ive had blotters that have been laid by people I know and trust what they told me the dosages were that felt true to their word. I'm pretty sure I can tell the difference between 75 ug and 100ug as well as 100 and 150-200 ug. Mostly from the amount of LSD I've eaten over the years Ive been able to tell for the most part. That is unless I've been lied to for the past 15 years from everybody haha.
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Plenty of doses have been lab tested. That's getting more & more common anymore. Also, some of us have laid or had friends laying the doses.
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ONE OZ SLUG said: Some people lay it higher than that. My friend is holding onto some Spongebob blotters dosed at 150mcg. A hit and a half had me flying.
I don't know who decided 100mcg would be the "dose", but I speculate that number is used because it's easy to work with. A gram of crystal gets you ten 10 sheets that way.
Some people say fuck it and lay them 200mcg 
3 years ago the first blotter i got was spongebob. Shit fried my brain so fucking hard. Here's a convo i had with the dealer.
"Hey that stuff made my tongue kinda numb do you have any idea why?"(i knew why already, i was just testing him)
"Oh it's not that 25i-nbome crap, the chemicals that make it stick to the paper and the ink give it that weird taste, this is legit L though, i took 30 and my friend took 40 and we're all good, pretty crazy trip though"
"Ok cool" never associated with him again. He ended up moving across the country after developing a nasty crack addiction. He was not in any way a stereotypical crackhead either.
What i wanted to say to him though was
"That's a shame, maybe if you actually told me what it is and how much it's dosed at, i would be willing to experiment with it, but since it's a tab of "idk" I'm gonna tell yku to fuck off and good luck not selling to the one kid who actually foes take 20 and hunches over dead"
The only reason we took it was because nobody wants to sell acid to someone right out of high school around here.
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Prisoner#1 said:
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Dark_Star said: 100 mics is a good dose.
I'm sure it is but who has ever done a quantitative assay on their acid to find out how many micrograms is on it. I see all these folks in this thread talking about how much is there but unless they're the ones that dissolved the crystal then how the fuck do they know how much is there
know what all this shit sounds like?
"my marijuanas are triple stack, that's why I charge double the price"
Holy shit, I AGREE WITH PRIS!!! HOLY FUCK!!!!
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It's gotten pretty common for folks to send doses out to labs to be tested nowadays. The reputable vendors encourage their customers to do so, to confirm that the doses are as advertised. And plenty of crews are pushing out doses that are laid as advertised. Also, crystal is far more available. It's not all dealer hype anymore. When I was younger I put in my time, and knew what the doses were being laid at. As such I've become good at ballparking it. And my ballpark estimations have been corroborated by lab tests. For example, I remember a print called yin yang dolphins a couple years back. Sold as 110 mics a piece. I was given one, and based on my experience guessed it was ~70-75 mics. A little while later it popped up on ecstasydata; https://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=2913&mobile=1
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The spongebobs I had did not make my tongue numb; there was no taste, not even that very slight "ink" taste. Very clean trip.
The one time I had blotter that numbed my tongue I spit it out and traded off the half sheet for a fistful of oxycontin. This was before the time all this great acid started coming around.
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Well lets hope that these 100mic tabs keep coming. I think I never truly realized what 100mics means till I took 1 one single tab and tripped that hard. I really hoenstly did not see that coming. I saw a light trip on the level of half an eigth. Which really goes to show how poor the quality of acid has been all these years
Speaking of which I am going to take 1.5 or maybe two of those same tabs and see how deep the rabbit hole goes. I feel pretty satisfied that I now have an objective taste of 100mics to gauge future tabs
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Re: Why 100 micrograms? [Re: Dark_Star]
#23607672 - 09/03/16 11:20 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said: Also, some of us have laid or had friends laying the doses. 
while i have never laid a sheet, i have had two acquaintances that were heavily involved back in the day (you might know one of them, actually). based on their dosage, i was able to ballpark quality/quantity there-on-out.
as well, there's only so much lsd a piece of standard paper can hold. kind of why i doubt mr.404 up there saying he has 200+ug hits. highly, highly uncommon, and rarely would that be a for-market lay if it was true.
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Re: Why 100 micrograms? [Re: demiu5]
#23607737 - 09/03/16 11:40 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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demiu5 said:
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Dark_Star said: Also, some of us have laid or had friends laying the doses. 
while i have never laid a sheet, i have had two acquaintances that were heavily involved back in the day (you might know one of them, actually). based on their dosage, i was able to ballpark quality/quantity there-on-out.
as well, there's only so much lsd a piece of standard paper can hold. kind of why i doubt mr.404 up there saying he has 200+ug hits. highly, highly uncommon, and rarely would that be a for-market lay if it was true.
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morrowasted said:
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demiu5 said:
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Dark_Star said: Also, some of us have laid or had friends laying the doses. 
while i have never laid a sheet, i have had two acquaintances that were heavily involved back in the day (you might know one of them, actually). based on their dosage, i was able to ballpark quality/quantity there-on-out.
as well, there's only so much lsd a piece of standard paper can hold. kind of why i doubt mr.404 up there saying he has 200+ug hits. highly, highly uncommon, and rarely would that be a for-market lay if it was true.

Do you know how much NBOMe blotters have on them? Much more than 200ug
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Re: Why 100 micrograms? [Re: demiu5] 1
#23607853 - 09/03/16 12:08 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Actually there are 200 mic hits & higher. Not super common, but they're out there. Highest lab result I've seen is 291 mics. I actually have had paper from that same vendor 404 is talking about, and they truly are 200 mics.
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Re: Why 100 micrograms? [Re: topdog82]
#23608197 - 09/03/16 02:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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topdog82 said: Well lets hope that these 100mic tabs keep coming. I think I never truly realized what 100mics means till I took 1 one single tab and tripped that hard. I really hoenstly did not see that coming. I saw a light trip on the level of half an eigth. Which really goes to show how poor the quality of acid has been all these years
Speaking of which I am going to take 1.5 or maybe two of those same tabs and see how deep the rabbit hole goes. I feel pretty satisfied that I now have an objective taste of 100mics to gauge future tabs
Ive done two 100micro hits recently, was not what i was expecting. My experience was somewhat chaotic, disorienting, hypontonic, so when u go deeper, be prepared to be knocked on your ass from the experience.
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Thing is, I've found over the years, is dosage means next to fuck all. It's the quality of the acid that counts.
I've had trips on 125ug that were 10x better than trips on 500ug
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Re: Why 100 micrograms? [Re: topdog82]
#23609096 - 09/03/16 07:37 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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If you have pure or nearly pure acid laying blotters at 100ug allows 10,000 hits per gram.
Keeps the numbers simple and for most people is a good starting dose though I can understand for some it is overwhelming.
I have no idea if thats why but the most circulated doses I see are around 100-110ug
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Jokeshopbeard said: Thing is, I've found over the years, is dosage means next to fuck all. It's the quality of the acid that counts.
I've had trips on 125ug that were 10x better than trips on 500ug
Quality of the set, setting, and tolerance at the time matters far more than the purity of the crystal. You can have completely different psychedelic experiences on the same batch
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Re: Why 100 micrograms? [Re: Sheekle]
#23609639 - 09/03/16 10:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Partially agree with you Sheeks, but the quality of the compound matters a fucking lot IMO, more than the former you mentioned. I'm no amatuer with the stuff and have had it in many, many sets, settings, and tolerance levels.
I'll agree to disagree though, cause I don't wanna get into subjective shit.
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There is no subjective difference between the quality. Only difference with purity is potency. Everything else is due to other factors, as the psychedelic is highly variable. This has been shown time & time again. There is literature from the old studies that show this. And I've seen it in action. I guarantee that you would not be able to tell the difference between 100 mics of 99.9% pure d-LSD crystal & 200 mics of 50% pure d-LSD crystal. Furthermore, if I gave you the 200 mics of 50% pure L & said it was needlepoint or fluff, then gave you the 100 mics of 99.9% pure L & said it was lavender or amber crystal laid higher to make up for the impurities, you'd be saying that both got you off but the "fluff/needlepoint" was a lot cleaner/smoother.....even though that was the more impure stuff. That's the effect just these names have on the experience. Preconceptions & all that. I saw that situation play out thousands of times when I was involved in this line of work. We'd put out a bunch of books with the same crystal, and down the line people would give it different names to sell it. And people would swear that not only was it different, but you could feel the difference & people could tell which was which. But it was all the same exact stuff & same exact dose. The impurities in LSD are inactive, and are minuscule amounts. The difference is all in your head.
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Re: Why 100 micrograms? [Re: Dark_Star]
#23609895 - 09/04/16 12:24 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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You sound like you know of which you speak D_S. Are you saying that all clandestine labs are producing the same quality of product? I.e - impurities would have no bearing on experience when ingested?
I'd like to learn. To me, I feel there has been a massive variation in terms of quality of product.
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