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Uncleruzuncle
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ID REQUEST LIBERTY CAP, Canada
#23601964 - 09/01/16 05:29 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Habitat: Where does it grow? Eg. woods, pasture, state, province, country, altitude, etc. What does it grow on? Eg. soil, dung, wood (dead, living, what kind of wood?), etc.
Central Alberta canada, farmers field, growing beside cow dung in the grass. Record rainfall year, below room temperature the last few days.
Gills: Color, attached/not, gills/pores, etc.
Very dark brown, not black. Maybe slight purple tinge but mind might be playing tricks. They hold form when touched and do not leave behind any ink or residue. Blade like but not straight and forking towards the outer edge of the cap. Do not attach to stem but not completely free.
Stem: Length, diameter, color, texture, hollow/solid, thin/thick, etc.
Very long relative to mushroom size (3"-5" long) very skinny when dried, about 1/8"+ when fresh, blank smooth texture when fresh, long vertical ridges when aged/dried. Does NOT turn blue when touched. Firm structure but can wrap around finger without breaking, darkens in spots where it bent. A medium brown-grey color with a hint of "dandelion stem" color when fresh, but barely any. Some stems are hollowing some just have a pin hole.
Cap: Diameter, color, texture, conical/spherical, convex/concave, etc.
1/4"-1" in diameter, smooth texture, color ranging from pale brown to gray, sometimes slightly blackening around edges. Edges bevel inwards towards stem. Classic Phrygian hat shape with nipple like protrusion, some have more of a classic comical shape without much of a nipple. Middles are usually a richer brown color that fades to a pale gray towards the edge.
Spore print color: Very important!
Haven't got a full print yet but after 8 hours on paper a few dark brown specks were on the paper, not black but VERY dark
Bruising: Color that the mushroom bruises, if any.
No bruising at all, hence my confusion, though I know it's very common for libs not to blue.
Other information: Scent of the mushroom, anything else you think is important, large close-up pictures showing stem, cap and gills.
Not very much of a smell, maybe flour like if anything at all. Taste is like classic mush taste (spit out)
Please don't jump to a conclusion too quick, I am experienced in mushroom picking just not the magic variety, they look IDENTICAL im physical appearance and habitat/setting
Thanks so much! First post on this site, been using since 2011
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MushroomAreTheKey
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Yo your in Alberta wanna meet up and hunt
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doctorghosty
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You're not allowed to ask that
Please read the Forum Rules before you put your foot in your mouth again.
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doctorghosty
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Not Liberty caps btw, probably Panaeolus foenisecii
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MushroomAreTheKey
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Re: ID REQUEST LIBERTY CAP, Canada [Re: doctorghosty]
#23602258 - 09/01/16 06:48 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've seen that asked many times before...
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doctorghosty
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Keep asking and get banned, just trying to help
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Uncleruzuncle
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I'm around edmonton where are you?
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Uncleruzuncle
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I read the rules and checked the other forms and still no conclusion. what makes you think they are not a psilocybin species? They look nothing like all the pans i checks the Mycenas etc, please more specific
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Uncleruzuncle
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Re: ID REQUEST LIBERTY CAP, Canada [Re: doctorghosty]
#23602315 - 09/01/16 07:02 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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These have a distinct nipple conical cap, not convex like pan. Foe.
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doctorghosty
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I could be wrong, wait for someone else to chime in. Dried mushroom IDs are hard.
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Uncleruzuncle
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Re: ID REQUEST LIBERTY CAP, Canada [Re: doctorghosty]
#23603056 - 09/01/16 10:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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They are fresh just a little bit sun dried, this site butchers photos
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MushroomAreTheKey
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Blue bruising? And yo im in edmonton to lol
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Uncleruzuncle
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No blue bruising but I've read liberty caps commonly don't blue, they are an exact match of every photo and description, habitat, etc. I'm ordering a Nark II test kit to test them. I did a Meiixner test and not amatoxins were present, though I've read on the reliability on that test. It turned the area a manila color. Bump bump
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knarkkorven
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Panaeolus papilionaceus
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Re: ID REQUEST LIBERTY CAP, Canada [Re: knarkkorven]
#23607229 - 09/03/16 08:39 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
knarkkorven said: Panaeolus papilionaceus
I agree
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Re: ID REQUEST LIBERTY CAP, Canada [Re: lvnthalife]
#23607266 - 09/03/16 08:58 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
lvnthalife said:
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knarkkorven said: Panaeolus papilionaceus
I agree
I reallllyyy disagree.. I always seem to find a lot of papilionaceus when I'm out foraging and these just don't seem to fit the bill. To me, the stems seem too thick and the none of the caps look to have that distinctive frayed/spiked bottom.
I could be wrong, but I don't think that's what they are.
Edited by rudeb0y (09/03/16 08:59 AM)
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