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First Time grow Atl#7 help required!
#23601536 - 09/01/16 03:26 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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First time grow of Atl#7 I've followed all steps up till now between cooking and inoculating a few jars and getting ready to G2G 10 precooked jars. I'm going for stones and maybe 1 or 2 jars make cakes.Post what you would do if you were me, shall be awesome hearing some others input. Up in uk Looking for tips and also advice how my jar looks too. Thanks to all, cheers mates.
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Re: First Time grow Atl#7 help required! [Re: PeaceChief34]
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Re: First Time grow Atl#7 help required! [Re: PeaceChief34]
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Re: First Time grow Atl#7 help required! [Re: PeaceChief34]
#23601597 - 09/01/16 03:45 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sorry mates to post the pics this way but my phones a dumb wit and won't let me lol
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Re: First Time grow Atl#7 help required! [Re: The Mycologist]
#23601853 - 09/01/16 04:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bro that things seriously on its way to being a health hazard..start with cubes.atl and other stone producers need impeccably clean spawn...and that things on the whole other side of the clean spawn spectrum...toss it get a cube print..grow them they forgive and get exp....get some culture technique...pf tek is forgiving???ms syringe to grains possible..but other than that get some agar and work on your sterile practice...
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Re: First Time grow Atl#7 help required! [Re: PeaceChief34]
#23601880 - 09/01/16 05:04 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think that jars content will be fine to eat. Wash your stones before eating.
G2g what you have out. Dont use wbs, its a bitch at harvest.
Start some agar plates, pick stones from your best producing jar and clone it to expand from there out.
Check out a sclerotia quote/link compilation with some of the best stone growers here https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22818693
-------------------- But if you're in a hurry, and really got to go If you're in a hurry, might have to find out slow That it's one thing to try and another to fly You get there quicker just a step at a time It's one thing to bark, another to bite The show ain't over till you pack up at night
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Re: First Time grow Atl#7 help required! [Re: filthyknees]
#23601900 - 09/01/16 05:09 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't believe they're contaminated atl7 turn this color when they start producing stones. I need someone with past experience with this strain. I used every pre caution to be sterile and used syringe to grain threw tops nooo way they're contaminated. All my other look this way and another strain I've used in same methods are fine everytime. I'm just talking about this strain. Correct me if I'm wrong?
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Re: First Time grow Atl#7 help required! [Re: filthyknees]
#23601904 - 09/01/16 05:10 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: First Time grow Atl#7 help required! [Re: PeaceChief34]
#23601937 - 09/01/16 05:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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PeaceChief34 said: I don't believe they're contaminated atl7 turn this color when they start producing stones. I need someone with past experience with this strain. I used every pre caution to be sterile and used syringe to grain threw tops nooo way they're contaminated. All my other look this way and another strain I've used in same methods are fine everytime. I'm just talking about this strain. Correct me if I'm wrong?
Yea i was mostly speaking on that black spot..and to see your thread rollin...i think what filthy knees said sounded solid..
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Ive grown many dozen stone quarts, that is typical. Yes there is some funkyness.
Clean your culture using agar, so its 100% clean. Starting from a spore syringe will get you those results.
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Re: First Time grow Atl#7 help required! [Re: filthyknees]
#23602184 - 09/01/16 06:32 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Filthyknees do you have a link possible how to agar the best way possible?
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Re: First Time grow Atl#7 help required! [Re: PeaceChief34]
#23602339 - 09/01/16 07:10 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Anyone else advice?
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Re: First Time grow Atl#7 help required! [Re: PeaceChief34]
#23602363 - 09/01/16 07:16 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: First Time grow Atl#7 help required! [Re: Kenetic]
#23602513 - 09/01/16 07:58 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Follow stonesuns guide. Other people to look up are devilstone, he did many bags. Unas posts are good to read, he was very commercial, but from a decade ago.
All of them use agar though. That's really the key to producing, getting a nice strain. While I've done many multi spore jars they where largely to find good strains to clone and further expand
-------------------- But if you're in a hurry, and really got to go If you're in a hurry, might have to find out slow That it's one thing to try and another to fly You get there quicker just a step at a time It's one thing to bark, another to bite The show ain't over till you pack up at night
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Re: First Time grow Atl#7 help required! [Re: filthyknees]
#23602870 - 09/01/16 09:39 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I read stonesons guide and followed every step to the point I'm at now and even in his pics his jars look the same as mine. I feel like I'm ready to G2G and agar. Anyone got any other good ideas?
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Re: First Time grow Atl#7 help required! [Re: PeaceChief34]
#23602907 - 09/01/16 09:44 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mushierage said: Dude just... No. Fucking toss man. It's trashed.
they don't even look that bad. you are aware that these aren't cubensis, right?
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PeaceChief34 said: Anyone else advice? 
harvest the stones and start your next grow with agar
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Re: First Time grow Atl#7 help required! [Re: Munchauzen]
#23602947 - 09/01/16 09:56 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mushierage said: Dude just... No. Fucking toss man. It's trashed.
they don't even look that bad. you are aware that these aren't cubensis, right?
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PeaceChief34 said: Anyone else advice? 
harvest the stones and start your next grow with agar
I thought the same thing Munchauzen. They're not cubensis completely different. Also I just knocked this one up about 17 days ago, I think its doing great. So when would you harvest this jar? Now or few weeks? As i said its been about 17 days. This my first time grow with this strain. Sorry for all questions mates!
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Re: First Time grow Atl#7 help required! [Re: PeaceChief34]
#23603489 - 09/02/16 01:30 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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17 days is very fast for that type of growth. You could clone a stone, I would pick the biggest and get it from the very centre. If shit is growing in their too it might be within the stone though, so you could look at growth on agar. I have some dodgy stones and have been able to clone from them.
For the people telling him to toss it, please post 3-4 pictures of colonising or colonised Atl#7 jars that you would NOT have tossed, i.e. show him what you think it is meant to look like. I am not looking for your own grows, there are loads of photos available on google images and on this site. And be a bit more descriptive about what you think is wrong.
I don't want people reading the first few posts of this thread and throwing out perfectly fine jars.
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Re: First Time grow Atl#7 help required! [Re: blackout]
#23603545 - 09/02/16 02:03 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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blackout said: 17 days is very fast for that type of growth. You could clone a stone, I would pick the biggest and get it from the very centre. If shit is growing in their too it might be within the stone though, so you could look at growth on agar. I have some dodgy stones and have been able to clone from them.
For the people telling him to toss it, please post 3-4 pictures of colonising or colonised Atl#7 jars that you would NOT have tossed, i.e. show him what you think it is meant to look like. I am not looking for your own grows, there are loads of photos available on google images and on this site. And be a bit more descriptive about what you think is wrong.
I don't want people reading the first few posts of this thread and throwing out perfectly fine jars.
I've seen multiple grows that looked similar to mine, so no matter what anyone said I would & will still kept them and G2G soon. Also I've never Agar before so I'm going to look into it. And as far as growth holy cow these things have took off . I've seen pics of 2-3 month old jars not near as close to the as mine have growth. Glad to see you know some knowledge about this strain also mate.
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Re: First Time grow Atl#7 help required! [Re: PeaceChief34]
#23607069 - 09/03/16 07:05 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: First Time grow Atl#7 help required! [Re: PeaceChief34]
#23607097 - 09/03/16 07:33 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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i think ur jars are fine to consume.
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so no matter what anyone said I would & will still kept them and G2G soon
i've never g2g'd after stone harvest. that seems weird?
i have g2g'd stones a lot though, I just do it any time after 90%. if stones already started forming, it would probably still work, but after 2-3 months, looking like that, I'd wonder if it was worth the trouble vs. just making new jars. even with a hood, harvesting the stones in sterile conditions, gathering the remaining grains, and redistributing them into new grains seems like a hassle.
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Re: First Time grow Atl#7 help required! [Re: blindingleaf]
#23607301 - 09/03/16 09:11 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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i've never g2g'd after stone harvest. that seems weird?
i have g2g'd stones a lot though, I just do it any time after 90%. if stones already started forming, it would probably still work, but after 2-3 months, looking like that, I'd wonder if it was worth the trouble vs. just making new jars. even with a hood, harvesting the stones in sterile conditions, gathering the remaining grains, and redistributing them into new grains seems like a hassle.
This is my first run with stones so even after reading alot on it, I still can't figure out the best solution to do. Also this jar is only about 18-20 days old from inoculation, it's growing twice as fast as others I've seen lol. What would you do since you have grown a few stones?
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Re: First Time grow Atl#7 help required! [Re: PeaceChief34]
#23607338 - 09/03/16 09:25 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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oh shiiiiiit!! i didn't know the jar was that young, my bad for not reading closer. I'm not sure what i'd do
to give you an idea, the jar on left is from 5/8. P. mex. lots of discoloration. jars on right are tamps, g2g'd on 8/16 (17 daysold) with stones forming and no discoloration.

so i'd expect stones at the age of ur jars, but not all that discoloration….so I dunno
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Re: First Time grow Atl#7 help required! [Re: blindingleaf]
#23607352 - 09/03/16 09:33 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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blindingleaf said: oh shiiiiiit!! i didn't know the jar was that young, my bad for not reading closer. I'm not sure what i'd do
to give you an idea, the jar on left is from 5/8. P. mex. lots of discoloration. jars on right are tamps, g2g'd on 8/16 (17 daysold) with stones forming and no discoloration.

so i'd expect stones at the age of ur jar7s, but not all that discoloration….so I dunno
Yeah I'm not sure what to do either lol all of mine look that way and are producing hella stones but with alot of discoloration. Wish I knew more on what would be my best options. Should I clone stone, G2G or agar and start more? Anyones advice please post, open to all ideas as I'm clueless on this strain
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Re: First Time grow Atl#7 help required! [Re: PeaceChief34]
#23607360 - 09/03/16 09:36 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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are you sure u labeled them with the correct date?
yea, i would throw a stone on agar, and maybe throw some grains on a seperate plate. see what happens.
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Re: First Time grow Atl#7 help required! [Re: blindingleaf]
#23607362 - 09/03/16 09:37 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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and yea, start more. always start more
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Re: First Time grow Atl#7 help required! [Re: blindingleaf]
#23607381 - 09/03/16 09:44 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm positive on the date and later today I'll upload more pics. Also I've read from RR that by using coffee in the cooking method and everything speeds the process up to 75% growth so instead of 2-3 months for stones, I've got them around 2-3 weeks. I did indeed use coffee and all thoses methods as detailed on another post. I'll see if I can find link. Also I'll agar a stone and some grain like you've said.
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Re: First Time grow Atl#7 help required! [Re: PeaceChief34]
#23607387 - 09/03/16 09:48 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/8762232
Right here this grow was 17 days almost like mine, also where I read RR line about coffee.
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Re: First Time grow Atl#7 help required! [Re: PeaceChief34]
#23607392 - 09/03/16 09:50 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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i agree, coffee helps a lot. I've only grown ATL7 twice, 2 years ago. maybe they do tend to brown quicker,IDK. even with the coffee, yours look older than 1 month.
if the stone and the grain come clean, then it would be safe to assume everything went ok, but still would be remarkable for the speed.
have you looked at stone suns pictures? he might have some relevant ones.
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Re: First Time grow Atl#7 help required! [Re: blindingleaf]
#23607437 - 09/03/16 10:08 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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The Moment my ATL#7 started forming Stones it started turning brown
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Re: First Time grow Atl#7 help required! [Re: blindingleaf]
#23607460 - 09/03/16 10:18 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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blindingleaf said: i agree, coffee helps a lot. I've only grown ATL7 twice, 2 years ago. maybe they do tend to brown quicker,IDK. even with the coffee, yours look older than 1 month.
if the stone and the grain come clean, then it would be safe to assume everything went ok, but still would be remarkable for the speed.
have you looked at stone suns pictures? he might have some relevant ones.
Yes indeed I agree but it's possible from everything I've researched. Also I haven't seen too many because alot of logs new members cant view. I'm only been on here for 2 days lol it keeps saying 12 more days and 10 posts I believe before I can view some things.
-Curious shroomer. So did mine and that's what the brown streaks are from, some other members believed they were contaminated and said trash them lol. I took every precaution for sterilization and did every step as said with all new equipment so I know it's clean. Same process I've done with cub many times before no problems.
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Re: First Time grow Atl#7 help required! [Re: PeaceChief34]
#23607471 - 09/03/16 10:21 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I wish stone sun would make an appearance on this thread an give us some great set in stone advice  Then we would know forsure for someone who has tons of experience in this field.
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Re: First Time grow Atl#7 help required! [Re: PeaceChief34]
#23608967 - 09/03/16 06:49 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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more pics will be uploaded later tonight. 
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Re: First Time grow Atl#7 help required! [Re: PeaceChief34]
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Re: First Time grow Atl#7 help required! [Re: PeaceChief34]
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Re: First Time grow Atl#7 help required! [Re: PeaceChief34]
#23609900 - 09/04/16 12:26 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Guess no one seen new pics? Lol
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Re: First Time grow Atl#7 help required! *DELETED* [Re: blindingleaf]
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Re: First Time grow Atl#7 help required! [Re: stevo]
#23609966 - 09/04/16 01:13 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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You wouldn't have to do that though. I've dug them out of my backyard and used my fingernails to scrub the dirt off of them in the bathtub to clean them up. They were more or less sterile on the inside and never needed another transfer to clean up.
Cloning sclerotia very rarely has turned into a good sclerotia forming strain. I agree with others that cloning that brown band that connects them all is the ticket.
So clone some of the brown streak is the ticket. Good to hear. Also how do you think those stones look?
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Re: First Time grow Atl#7 help required! [Re: stevo]
#23609990 - 09/04/16 01:27 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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also how do you think those stones look?
Looks like you have a well above average yielding colony of mycelium to me. I see nothing wrong with them at all.
That's good to hear because I've got 10 that all look this way and I've got 10 more precooked ready to G2G & store away. I can't believe its only 20ish days and ive got stones in all my jars! another month or so and they will be crazy looking. How long do you suppose I should wait till harvesting?
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Re: First Time grow Atl#7 help required! [Re: PeaceChief34]
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Re: First Time grow Atl#7 help required! [Re: stevo]
#23610098 - 09/04/16 02:49 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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stevo said: 20 days is rediculously fast. Are you incubating them at really hot temperatures?
Harvest when you feel they are done growing, and you are ready to harvest. The way I look at it is, they don't store very well anyway, so I wouldn't worry too much about getting a gram or 2 less than you could have. I usually get mine ready for fruiting at full colonization and not even worry about jarstones. They grow faster in the casing layer and only slightly less potent. I think the less sclerotia you harvest, the more it will yield after put into fruiting conditions, both in sclerotia and fruits. They could theoretically fruit for years if you can keep them fed up without molding. This is why I plant mine outside.
From yesterday:


I planted this hear in 2014 I think, and still going. It isn't where I planted it either. They are following a tire rut that had grass and corn cobs wash into it, get covered in sandy soil and as it decomposes leaves a little rut that makes a prime microclimate. I can usually find a cluster in these ruts daily. This is an example though, of a good flush in "natural" conditions. All of this was started by throwing stem butts and/or slurries there. When there's a big pile of grain underneath they will flush a sea of shrooms and then get scarce and push up random stagerred single shrooms that are rarely in huge abundance.
Yes it is fast and I love to fruit them but I miss days where i'm not home and wouldn't be able to take care of them and I'm not too experienced in casing for fruit indoors so it would be a learning experience. I've mostly grown outdoors just like you shown in the picture. I completely believe you when you say they grow on their own and in patches. I've personal seen a couple of pounds grown in a huge patch just in the mountains in it's natural state. It was the motherload.
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Re: First Time grow Atl#7 help required! [Re: stevo]
#23610175 - 09/04/16 04:56 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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blindingleaf said: even with a hood, harvesting the stones in sterile conditions, gathering the remaining grains, and redistributing them into new grains seems like a hassle.
You wouldn't have to do that though. I've dug them out of my backyard and used my fingernails to scrub the dirt off of them in the bathtub to clean them up. They were more or less sterile on the inside and never needed another transfer to clean up.
Cloning sclerotia very rarely has turned into a good sclerotia forming strain. I agree with others that cloning that brown band that connects them all is the ticket.
i thought he was asking about g2ging the remaining grains after harvesting the stones (thats why I said gathering the remaining grains and redistributing them), my bad OP.
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Re: First Time grow Atl#7 help required! [Re: blindingleaf]
#23610241 - 09/04/16 05:40 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Blindingleaf- I'm going to G2G from my master to my other 10 precooked jars and let them colonize. Then take my other few jars that I posted pics of and harvest them get stones and make fruit,clone, ect.... But yes you are right if you harvested them then tried to take the remaining grains and G2G would be a pain in the butt. Makes sense lol.
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Re: First Time grow Atl#7 help required! [Re: PeaceChief34]
#23610285 - 09/04/16 06:22 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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rock on man, go for it
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PeaceChief34
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Re: First Time grow Atl#7 help required! [Re: blindingleaf]
#23610993 - 09/04/16 11:09 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hell yea bro, will do!
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Re: First Time grow Atl#7 help required! [Re: PeaceChief34]
#23613378 - 09/05/16 12:34 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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