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OfflineMarkosheehan
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    #23601202 - 09/01/16 01:37 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Shrooms and heart damage [Re: Markosheehan]
    #23601269 - 09/01/16 01:55 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Just because it binds to 5HT2B does not in and of itself mean anything. All drugs have different effects. Mushrooms have never been shown to have any impact on the heart (aside from causing an increase in heartrate due to the intensity of the experience). You'll be fine.


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Re: Shrooms and heart damage [Re: Markosheehan]
    #23601282 - 09/01/16 01:58 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

And this is why I hate science. No really I don't hate science but I hate the role science has come to play in our culture.

They injected rats with pure psilocybin every other day with the intention of finding cardiac abnormalities and then lo and behold they found cardiac abnormalities?

ANd what does this have to do with humans? Nothing. You seriously think these scientists are smarter than nature and her sacred gift the magic mushroom?

If you want to look at the safety of magic mushroom just look at how many people have been taking it and how few of them have died of cardiac issues as a result. That should be all you need to know. This study is simply a case of poisoning animals to try and make shrooms look bad. How can you possibly be dumb enough to fall for this shit?


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Re: Shrooms and heart damage [Re: Peyote Road]
    #23601423 - 09/01/16 02:49 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Peyote Road said:
And this is why I hate science. No really I don't hate science but I hate the role science has come to play in our culture.

They injected rats with pure psilocybin every other day with the intention of finding cardiac abnormalities and then lo and behold they found cardiac abnormalities?

ANd what does this have to do with humans? Nothing. You seriously think these scientists are smarter than nature and her sacred gift the magic mushroom?

If you want to look at the safety of magic mushroom just look at how many people have been taking it and how few of them have died of cardiac issues as a result. That should be all you need to know. This study is simply a case of poisoning animals to try and make shrooms look bad. How can you possibly be dumb enough to fall for this shit?




I agree with this statement 100%. Thanks for sharing brother.


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Re: Shrooms and heart damage [Re: MagicDave]
    #23601458 - 09/01/16 03:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Holy fuck...they gave it to them every other day for 12 weeks....If you had someone eat a big mac every other day for 12 weeks, they would develop heart problems. Plus...does anyone know what that dosage comes out to be in comparison with humans?


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Re: Shrooms and heart damage [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #23601467 - 09/01/16 03:04 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

ive binged on acid harder than every other day for 12 weeks, i hope my heart is fine


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Re: Shrooms and heart damage [Re: Markosheehan]
    #23601762 - 09/01/16 04:36 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Markosheehan said:
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i suffer from depression and take mushies roughly every 14 days to help me cope and it really does me good.




Sounds like someone needs to up their dose if they find they have to take it once every 14 days.

And that study is obviously pure shit.
5ht2b agonist causing heart problems? Lol give me a break


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Re: Shrooms and heart damage [Re: AuroraBorealis88] * 1
    #23602914 - 09/01/16 09:47 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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The study groups received
intraperitoneally psilocin (PSI) in a dose of 10 µg/kg body weight (b.w.) or beta-phenylethylamine (PEA) in
a dose of 1 mg/kg b.w. dissolved in 5% ethanol every second day for 2 and 12 weeks.





They injected them with 10 µg/kg body weight of psilocin every other day for 12 weeks...:thataintright:

Well let's put in perspective:  dried cubensis mushrooms are maybe 1% psilocybin and psilocin, and dried mushrooms are about 10% the weight of fresh, so there's about 1mg per gram fresh fruits as actives, or 1000µg.

I weigh about 66kg, so if was to dose up on 10µg/kg body weight that'd be 0.66 grams of fresh mushrooms - which in all honestly is basically nothing - as I do up to 125 g fresh a day after tolerance kicks in, about 200x as much.  Oh my gawd I should be dead!

Still no heart problems here or anything at all that I've noticed while tripping, and I've tripped that hard most days of the week for weeks on end more than once.  :shrug:

I would pay it no mind.


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Re: Shrooms and heart damage [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #23604027 - 09/02/16 08:50 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

You guys are a lot more hardcore than me. Holy crap! Twice a year for me is plenty.:mushroom2:


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Re: Shrooms and heart damage [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #23604401 - 09/02/16 11:34 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Thayendanegea said:
You guys are a lot more hardcore than me. Holy crap! Twice a year for me is plenty.:mushroom2:




Imagine taking Ayahuasca every other day lol. 2012 was a hell of a year for me. I miss it.


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