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Bath salts may have pushed 19-year-old to eat faces of victims
    #23601092 - 09/01/16 01:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

http://cw39.com/2016/08/17/deputies-bath-salts-may-have-pushed-19-year-old-to-eat-faces-of-victims/

TEQUESTA, Fl. — The latest findings in a horrific double-homicide in Florida Monday night has presented more questions than answers.

Austin Harrouff, 19, is accused of savagely killing Michelle Mischon and John Stevens in their garage. The Florida State University student has never been in trouble with the law before.  The obvious questions: What was Harrouff on when he committed the brutal murders and why did he do it?

The Harrouff was found biting off the face of one of his victims. It's enough to even shock Martin County Sheriff William Snyder who has four decades under his belt.

“I don't think I've ever seen anything with this much violence," he said. “It does look, as inexplicably as it sounds, like a completely unprovoked and random attack.”

A blood test ruled out cocaine, pot and opiates. But they're still looking into the synthetic drug flakka, otherwise known as bath salts! Deputies said when they arrived, Harrouff seemed to possess super-human strength. It took a taser, a K-9, and about six officers to stop his cannibalistic actions and pry him off his victim.

This isn't the first time Florida police are dealing with zombie like behavior. Remember that guy back in 2012 who chewed off the face of a homeless man?! Bath salts change you, there's no doubt about it!

A former Harrouff classmate, Oliver Joseph, is in disbelief. He said this is not the quiet guy he knew in high school.

“This kid had a lot of potential in a lot of different ways," he said

Joseph said the whole thing is surreal, theatrical, just like the movies.


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Re: Bath salts may have pushed 19-year-old to eat faces of victims [Re: Connoisseur]
    #23601561 - 09/01/16 03:33 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Toxicology didn't find bath salts in Rudy Eugene the perpetrator in the previous face-biting attack mentioned in that article.


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Re: Bath salts may have pushed 19-year-old to eat faces of victims [Re: Connoisseur] * 1
    #23604536 - 09/02/16 12:34 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

This is just speculation on the part of reporters and the police. The kid involved was very adamant when arrested that he wasn't on any drugs and had never used drugs.

It's great how people just automatically assume "someone did something bad? IT MUST BE THE DRUGS!" Like fuck man, stop blaming drugs for people's bad behavior. Put some blame on the person for once.


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OfflineConnoisseur

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Re: Bath salts may have pushed 19-year-old to eat faces of victims [Re: nooneman]
    #23604539 - 09/02/16 12:37 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Im also very skeptical of that as well when i watch videos like bitch flips out on pcp or anything akin to that (lol) it could very well be something thats not a drug at all making them act in a bizare manner.

I just kinda assume after maybe some people admit it was bath salts or spice?


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Re: Bath salts may have pushed 19-year-old to eat faces of victims [Re: Connoisseur]
    #23607930 - 09/03/16 12:37 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

So, I just found the Freudian, psychological cause of cannibalism, if you want to read more about it.

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oral aggression




:smbfacepalm::facepalm3:

Someone goes from "lots of potential" to "oral aggression," without showing any warning signs, for their whole life, family and friends? Really?

So, you found a convenient and trendy scapegoat in shitty, plastic research chemicals.

Or, one formal venue links it to iron deficiency.
He might just be hungry and mad.:cookiemonster:


Edited by durian_2008 (09/03/16 12:42 PM)


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Re: Bath salts may have pushed 19-year-old to eat faces of victims [Re: durian_2008]
    #23615241 - 09/05/16 04:12 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I've read a few reports of some pharmaceuticals causing really bizarre hallucinations in some people.. just a thought..


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Re: Bath salts may have pushed 19-year-old to eat faces of victims [Re: tripp23]
    #23615449 - 09/05/16 05:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Keep it smart, guys. :thumbup:


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Re: Bath salts may have pushed 19-year-old to eat faces of victims [Re: Connoisseur]
    #23625894 - 09/08/16 01:54 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-florida-face-biting-suspect-poison-20160908-story.html [warning auto-playing-video]
he father of a Florida college student accused of randomly killing a couple and biting the dead husband's face said Thursday that his son's condition is deteriorating.

Dr. Wade Harrouff said his 19-year-old son Austin Harrouff "is not doing well" and remains hospitalized nearly four weeks after the Aug. 15 beating and stabbing attack that killed John Stevens, 59, and his wife, Michelle Mishcon, 53, at the couple's Tequesta home. The couple's neighbor was also injured. Harrouff said his son can open his eyes and squeeze his hand, but has pneumonia and can't talk.

Harrouff, a dentist, believes his son had a mental breakdown, which is why he stripped off most of his clothes before the attack. He thinks his son drank poison before the attack, which would explain his burned esophagus and the animal noises he was making during the attack.

"He was very dehydrated and wanted to drink something," Wade Harrouff said during two short phone interviews with The Associated Press.

It took several Martin County sheriff's deputies, shocks from an electric stun gun and bites from a police dog to pry Austin Harrouff off Stevens. The Florida State University exercise science major was a body builder, had played football and wrestled in high school and could bench press over 300 pounds, but football teammates have said their coaches criticized him for not being aggressive.

Wade Harrouff said his son had no history of violence before the attack.

The interviews came one day after Wade Harrouff appeared Wednesday on an episode of the "Dr. Phil" television show, where he gave his first detailed account of the case.
Florida couple killed, attacker bites off part of man's face

Austin Harrouff is charged with fatally stabbing a couple outside their Florida home and then biting the dead man's face. Harrouff, 19, is hospitalized, officials said. Aug. 17, 2016. (CBS Miami)

Austin Harrouff had been acting strangely for about a week before the attack — his mother told police before she knew about the killings that he had been claiming to have superpowers and to have been sent to help people.

Wade Harrouff told host Phil McGraw that his son had left a restaurant where they had been eating without explanation, walked to his mother's house two miles away and tried to drink a bottle of cooking oil. She stopped him, but he poured it into a bowl with parmesan cheese and ate it.

She brought him back to the restaurant. Harrouff said he grabbed his son by the shirt and said, "What is wrong with you?" He said his son reared back and raised his fist, but Wade Harrouff's girlfriend told him to stop. Austin Harrouff turned and left, his father said. Video from the restaurant shows Austin Harrouff walking calmly as he exits about 45 minutes before Stevens and Mishcon were attacked. He apparently walked the four miles to their home.

Wade Harrouff said he first got a call from deputies about 2 a.m., about five hours after the attack. He told McGraw his first thought was "he's dead."
Florida face-biting suspect might have ingested 'caustic' chemicals, sheriff says
Florida face-biting suspect might have ingested 'caustic' chemicals, sheriff says

They told him they had found his son and he was relieved, but then two deputies arrived at his house and showed him a photo of his battered son taken after his arrest. They told him his son was in the hospital and that "he's killed two people and eaten them," adding "that blood you see isn't his own."

He said he was stunned because that's not something he could believe his son could do.

"He's always been the kindest, caring kid I've seen. He always wanted to help people. He was always great. I called him the 'happy boy,'" a tearful Harrouff told McGraw. "When he wakes up, he's not going to be able to believe this but he will deal with it. I want to talk to him because he will tell the story, even if he is guilty."

Hospital blood tests showed no signs of methamphetamine, cocaine, heroin or other common drugs in Harrouff' system. Detectives are awaiting tests for less common hallucinogenic drugs such as flakka or bath salts, whose abusers have been known to become suddenly and irrationally violent.

Martin County Sheriff Wayne Snyder has said Austin Harrouff will be charged with murder if he recovers. The sheriff's office had no immediate comment on Wade Harrouff's television appearance.

Associated Press
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Re: Bath salts may have pushed 19-year-old to eat faces of victims [Re: Connoisseur]
    #23627936 - 09/09/16 03:48 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Connoisseur said:
http://cw39.com/2016/08/17/deputies-bath-salts-may-have-pushed-19-year-old-to-eat-faces-of-victims/

TEQUESTA, Fl. — The latest findings in a horrific double-homicide in Florida Monday night has presented more questions than answers.

Austin Harrouff, 19, is accused of savagely killing Michelle Mischon and John Stevens in their garage. The Florida State University student has never been in trouble with the law before.  The obvious questions: What was Harrouff on when he committed the brutal murders and why did he do it?

The Harrouff was found biting off the face of one of his victims. It's enough to even shock Martin County Sheriff William Snyder who has four decades under his belt.

“I don't think I've ever seen anything with this much violence," he said. “It does look, as inexplicably as it sounds, like a completely unprovoked and random attack.”

A blood test ruled out cocaine, pot and opiates. But they're still looking into the synthetic drug flakka, otherwise known as bath salts! Deputies said when they arrived, Harrouff seemed to possess super-human strength. It took a taser, a K-9, and about six officers to stop his cannibalistic actions and pry him off his victim.

This isn't the first time Florida police are dealing with zombie like behavior. Remember that guy back in 2012 who chewed off the face of a homeless man?! Bath salts change you, there's no doubt about it!

A former Harrouff classmate, Oliver Joseph, is in disbelief. He said this is not the quiet guy he knew in high school.

“This kid had a lot of potential in a lot of different ways," he said

Joseph said the whole thing is surreal, theatrical, just like the movies.




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