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Shroomsh
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Postponing pasturization with premade mixture?
#23600964 - 09/01/16 12:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Basically I'm just curious if there is anything wrong with having my verm/brf already mixed and in the jars stowed in a sterile tub to be pasteurized later. I mean it's going to be pasteurized right? Am I missing factors that should be keeping me from waiting too long to run them through?
Can they wait a few hours? Maybe a day or so?
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Boogieman47
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Re: Postponing pasturization with premade mixture? [Re: Shroomsh]
#23601012 - 09/01/16 12:35 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I waited two days with my grains and I had cobweb like mold I just ran the PC an extra 30 and didn't have an issue but pasteurising IDK if it will kill certain shit ? You should be fine
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Inocuole
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Re: Postponing pasturization with premade mixture? [Re: Boogieman47]
#23601041 - 09/01/16 12:44 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Are you seriously about to pasteurize verm and BRF? Seriously? Somebody quote me and remove my name from the quote or ask him the same question please.
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Re: Postponing pasturization with premade mixture? [Re: Shroomsh] 1
#23601050 - 09/01/16 12:47 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well for starters the tub is no longer sterile since the unsterilized jars are in there, 2nd moisture content will be off from sitting(depending on length of time), 3rd, they need steriling not pasteurizing for inoculation, so why would you mix it all and jar it if your not ready to sterilize yet? Im not trying to sound arrogant just trying to help your grow...
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Re: Postponing pasturization with premade mixture? [Re: perikleous]
#23601071 - 09/01/16 12:52 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thank you. 
Kids always trying to jump the gun. Don't commit to the action of growing unless you're going to carry each step through in the given timelines. Half assing shit and putting off important stuff for later is how you fuck your whole life up.
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Shroomsh
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Re: Postponing pasturization with premade mixture? [Re: perikleous]
#23601080 - 09/01/16 12:55 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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perikleous said: Well for starters the tub is no longer sterile since the unsterilized jars are in there, 2nd moisture content will be off from sitting(depending on length of time), 3rd, they need steriling not pasteurizing for inoculation, so why would you mix it all and jar it if your not ready to sterilize yet? Im not trying to sound arrogant just trying to help your grow...
No, I understand. The moisture content being off is one thing I didn't consider. Maybe I'm using the word pasteurization incorrectly. My mistake. They will be placed in an instant pot for 80 minutes for sterilization. I have had success twice now with the IP so I'm not worried about that.
Really I'm asking this because I have a friend who had previously asked to see how I do all of this. I fucked up and didn't mix half of my intended quantity, I mixed all of it. So now I have it all prepped and ready and was wondering if it was possible to push the other half to tomorrow morning.
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Re: Postponing pasturization with premade mixture? [Re: Shroomsh] 1
#23601084 - 09/01/16 12:57 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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You're going to show someone how you grow when you don't even know how to grow? I can't wait til THEY start posting..
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Boogieman47
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Re: Postponing pasturization with premade mixture? [Re: Inocuole]
#23601519 - 09/01/16 03:19 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Op are you talking in your PC or truly pasteurising?
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Inocuole
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Re: Postponing pasturization with premade mixture? [Re: Boogieman47]
#23601631 - 09/01/16 03:57 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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LOL Look at his sig! What a fucking sissy. He thinks we'll ignore him because he ignores us. Now he lives in a little bubble where he can't see all the people going around correcting his dumb ass shit.
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Mad Season
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Re: Postponing pasturization with premade mixture? [Re: Inocuole]
#23601646 - 09/01/16 04:02 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Haha that's hilarious. He's the last one of my ignorers who's active. All of them spouted bad info, including him! I wear my name there in his sig with pride
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Inocuole
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Re: Postponing pasturization with premade mixture? [Re: Mad Season]
#23601669 - 09/01/16 04:07 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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He is such a personification of the world at large though, isn't he? Disliker of inconvenient truths, gives advice where none is needed, then turns around and asks questions, to which he gets answers, but refuses to see. Poetic almost..
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Re: Postponing pasturization with premade mixture? [Re: Inocuole]
#23601686 - 09/01/16 04:14 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hahaha damn almost poetic indeed. I actually feel bad for him. Tho I still feel like he has no balls for ignoring us on literally one of the mildest set of threads we've had around
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22288669 https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22292430
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Re: Postponing pasturization with premade mixture? [Re: Mad Season]
#23601694 - 09/01/16 04:16 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Brf and verm are cheap, either sterilize them or toss it. If they are in a jar already just fire up the PC..... or don't and lose like two whole dollars of brf and verm.
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Boogieman47
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Re: Postponing pasturization with premade mixture? [Re: Llwr]
#23601759 - 09/01/16 04:35 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ya that is pretty pathetic but some people can't take shit I mean on here you would think people would be a bit tougher persay being shot down you could nut up a bit swallow your pride and move on ... I'd hate to see someone in person like that in a game that has no rules being criticized by people that may like him but are harder on his actions he would be run out of whatever organization he was attempting? But I'm just some guy learning myself and don't really care what anyone else ends up doing on here
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Re: Postponing pasturization with premade mixture? [Re: Boogieman47]
#23601769 - 09/01/16 04:38 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Spend enough time here and you'll care what a lot of people do here, because it reflects on all of our ability to be able to do what we do. That's why that growing in their parents house, trying to grow 20 pounds a month, not even bothering to read, fuckin bullshit pisses people off here. Don't need morons de-legitimizing what we do even further. This information is only available here because someone hasn't found a way to make it illegal while making it sound good yet.
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Re: Postponing pasturization with premade mixture? [Re: Inocuole]
#23601797 - 09/01/16 04:45 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Trust me I'm on here all the time and know about good and bad topics I've been hook lined and sinkered on some when you say it like that I take back what I said I didn't mean in that sense but more as in if they fail or not I'm just trying to better my own and help with what I can
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Re: Postponing pasturization with premade mixture? [Re: Boogieman47]
#23601808 - 09/01/16 04:47 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Oh, yeah, I don't give a fuck when people fail, but people who fail love to paint it like they succeeded in their minds, then give other people shit advice. So really, even sucking at growing can't be tolerated to an extent.
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Boogieman47
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Re: Postponing pasturization with premade mixture? [Re: Inocuole]
#23601834 - 09/01/16 04:53 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ya well weeding out shit is hard going to a extended hotel vaca so young helped not believing everything but on here it's hard considering you don't look at ratings pictures and shut like that of the poster even if it's a few years old can play apart in useful or outdated ... I'm not saying I've had great success but I can go into the realm whenever I want haha
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Re: Postponing pasturization with premade mixture? [Re: Boogieman47]
#23601839 - 09/01/16 04:55 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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You're not a turd like OP though so, you're hardly even on the radar.
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Re: Postponing pasturization with premade mixture? [Re: Shroomsh]
#23601856 - 09/01/16 04:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Shroomsh said: Basically I'm just curious if there is anything wrong with having my verm/brf already mixed and in the jars stowed in a sterile tub to be pasteurized later. I mean it's going to be pasteurized right? Am I missing factors that should be keeping me from waiting too long to run them through?
Can they wait a few hours? Maybe a day or so?
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Boogieman47
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Re: Postponing pasturization with premade mixture? [Re: Inocuole]
#23601865 - 09/01/16 05:01 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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LMAO I'll take that compliment *curtsey* as frustrating as things are if they aren't going well I know the criticism doesn't help but doing certain things after, that make or break you, making it harder for even the non so hard assholes to wanna help I think alot of the bad posters may have a silver spoon that wanna live on the edge and be the man you know ?? Not saying all people born to higher standards are all so spoiled but most that have had more given then taken can't act right in the slums of life
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Re: Postponing pasturization with premade mixture? [Re: Inocuole]
#23601879 - 09/01/16 05:03 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: Oh, yeah, I don't give a fuck when people fail, but people who fail love to paint it like they succeeded in their minds, then give other people shit advice. So really, even sucking at growing can't be tolerated to an extent.
This is the NUMBER ONE problem in this community. Know that the vast majority of us will not tolerate it.
If you don't know something, don't pretend to know it. Be modest and wait for the right answers. It's the only way to succeed here. If you pass on bad information, you will be chastised for it, period full stop. We have enough bad information floating around from the past and bad habits die hard. We won't be furthering the cycle if we can help it
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Re: Postponing pasturization with premade mixture? [Re: Mushierage]
#23601911 - 09/01/16 05:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Most definitely when I first started I had watched videos and read colonizing is at 86℉ which I found out pretty quick that's wrong
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Inocuole
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Re: Postponing pasturization with premade mixture? [Re: Boogieman47]
#23601916 - 09/01/16 05:13 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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That one's forgiven though usually because it's in TMC. I don't ever encourage anybody read TMC or any other book though, so, its also easy to avoid for people that didn't try too hard on their own first. I wonder how many posts appear in this thread for OP.
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Re: Postponing pasturization with premade mixture? [Re: Boogieman47]
#23601929 - 09/01/16 05:16 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I used to grow 20 years ago and when a got here a few people "skooled" me pretty quick on the new info. I picked it up quickly.
It's not hard, people just need to read and not be lazy, and admit their faults. If you're wrong, make sure you acknowledge it so other people don't try and repeat your mistake. Pretty simple.
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Re: Postponing pasturization with premade mixture? [Re: Mushierage]
#23601936 - 09/01/16 05:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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If you've only been here two months then yeah I'd say you pick up shit pretty quickly. I bet most people registered in 2016 have a leg up on OP who's been here over a year though. If only he didn't set up the echo chamber so early. He could've learned so much, including how to have thick skin and get along with people you don't like at first.
True most people don't have a positive first interaction with me, but I go to bat for anybody who's stood the test of time and shown their worth.
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Boogieman47
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Re: Postponing pasturization with premade mixture? [Re: Inocuole]
#23601938 - 09/01/16 05:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ya I know alot of the books in their time seemed to be the shit and everyone who was growing didn't know any different so bacterial jars were the creme al LA crop haha
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Re: Postponing pasturization with premade mixture? [Re: Boogieman47]
#23601949 - 09/01/16 05:23 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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noob47 said: Ya I know alot of the books in their time seemed to be the shit and everyone who was growing didn't know any different so bacterial jars were the creme al LA crop haha
Honestly, before I came here I think I may have rarely made up a jar that wasn't bacterial in some way. With more education and a bit of revitalized interest in psychedelics, they are much MUCH better now than they were then.
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Boogieman47
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Re: Postponing pasturization with premade mixture? [Re: Inocuole]
#23602004 - 09/01/16 05:44 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well look at how pot is I'm only 29 but when I was 14 we had maybe 10% thc on some Humboldt county shit g-13, p-91 , bull rider, fruity pebbles , now it's what 50-60%? Hybrid indica/sativa wax which in my eyes is like hash oil but that shit is killer I don't even smoke because it gets me retarded high haha .. same with shrooms as far as growing conditions and technique it's came a long way I know my shrooms are way better then what I used to get growing up
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Re: Postponing pasturization with premade mixture? [Re: Inocuole]
#23602117 - 09/01/16 06:15 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: If you've only been here two months then yeah I'd say you pick up shit pretty quickly. I bet most people registered in 2016 have a leg up on OP who's been here over a year though. If only he didn't set up the echo chamber so early. He could've learned so much, including how to have thick skin and get along with people you don't like at first.
True most people don't have a positive first interaction with me, but I go to bat for anybody who's stood the test of time and shown their worth.
Ahh you're just a big softy you're like the stoop kid on hey Arnold haha
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