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4-aco-dmt - First time low dose, looking for advice
    #23600841 - 09/01/16 11:38 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I weighed out about 13 mg of 4-aco-dmt and took it orally in a small piece of a napkin. I say 'about' since I accidentally got some powder residue on the scale and licked it off :-)

I took it on a completely empty stomach with a bottle of water for hydration. I am not taking any other drugs whatsoever except cannabis almost daily and caffeine a few times a week.

The come up was almost immediate and was actually the most pleasant part of the experience. I began to feel "drunk" in the body, but not yet the mind and after about 22 minutes of taking it began to notice that patterns on my clothes began to stand out and color, light and sound all became more interesting and pleasurable to observe.

However, I quickly felt my normal body tension (a bit of tightness in the gut), began to increase. I was also noticing I was becoming anxious (this was tolerable), but also felt rather negative and irritable although I was able to maintain pretty well. This was roughly an hour after dosing.

I decided to lay down, and my mind was churning and I noticed myself entering into negative thought loops, which fortunately I was already familiar with.

At about two hours after dosing I get up from bed, feeling less anxious but mildly dysphoric.

The worst part was the incredible tightness I felt in my muscles, especially in my gut. I felt completely wound up like a spring, and it was very uncomfortable. I should note that this felt very much like a comedown from mushrooms (without the nausea)I had when I ate them dry instead of making a tea, which was much easier on my body.

I did not have any open or closed-eye visuals, hardly even any of what I only know to call "enhancement to imagination" that hallucinogenics have given me consistently until now.


On a positive note, I actually had an incredible night. Although it was almost entirely a "bad" trip it opened me open emotionally. I felt very raw, and very vulnerable and even scared. But after I expressed this to my friends mother (my spiritual mother), we ended up talking for many hours about the very real, and deeply painful and traumatizing things we'd both been through in our lives, and how much I've changed already in these past couple years. It was one of the most real, and open conversations I've had in my life despite my crippling social anxiety.

The bad trip did not stop me from being physically active, and after the first couple of hours it was bearable.

I'm wondering if anyone else here has had a difficult experience on a low dose like this? I have tripped on mushrooms, 1p-lsd and mescaline from the San Pedro and had mostly positive experiences with them all (except when trying to eat the mushrooms, bad nausea harsh comedown).

I will have the opportunity to try more in 3 days, and I want to increase the dose this time, and possibly snort it to see if I react better that way. Does anyone have any advice as to how I might make this more enjoyable for me? I want to use hallucinogens therapeutically but in my hesitancy I may have taken too little instead of too much.

EDIT: I feel pretty good now, better than I normally would.


Edited by Dante3214 (09/01/16 11:47 AM)


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Re: 4-aco-dmt - First time low dose, looking for advice [Re: Dante3214]
    #23601323 - 09/01/16 02:13 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

It could be that you took too little, like you said.

For me the body-feeling I get on 4-Aco-DMT is just something I roll with. I don't even notice it at all when I'm deep into the trip. I don't have anxiety either when I take a high-dose. The Tryptamine experience is too overwhelming.

Smoke weed if that helps you personally? I don't really know how you could make the trip better for sure. If you're upping the dose, you're only going to go deeper. But that may be a good thing.

As long as you know that it's really 4-Aco-DMT, and you're comfortable with a higher dose, I personally would just say take more if you want. I used to struggle a lot with low doses of any Psych. After taking a lot of high doses (of mushrooms + 4-aco-dmt especially) I'm usually pretty fine with taking any amount of a Psychedelic.


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