|
Heisencybin
Heisencybin



Registered: 02/16/15
Posts: 1,020
Loc: Ohio
|
Drug court and untestable drugs?
#23600551 - 09/01/16 09:56 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Looks like I am about to begin deug court after a couple brushes with the law. Pretty lucky actually. But anyways, I am to stay on this program for 2 years. I am curious to what drugs I can still ingest and past the drug tests?
I know I'll be ok with lsd, shrooms, dmt, 2cb and kratom. Any others worth looking into? I love etizolam but I'm wary about that popping up for benzos. Any other rc benzos that would pass tests? Thanks!
|
Thayendanegea
quiet walker



Registered: 02/20/12
Posts: 7,596
Loc: 7 Lodges Nation
|
Re: Drug court and untestable drugs? [Re: Heisencybin] 1
#23600573 - 09/01/16 10:01 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
that's a great attitude to start with...geez...drug court is to give you a chance to prove yourself...maybe try to take advantage of it. A lot of people wind up in jail from trying to get over on drug court. Also, be careful with Kratom....there is a blood and urine test for it...although, I doubt anyone uses it yet.
-------------------- Look Deep Into Nature,and Then You Will Understand Everything Better. Albert Einstein
|
Lucis
Nutritional Yeast

Registered: 03/28/15
Posts: 15,622
Last seen: 1 month, 29 days
|
Re: Drug court and untestable drugs? [Re: Heisencybin]
#23600585 - 09/01/16 10:04 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
I have never been in drug court, but hear it's gnarly.
I know in a certain state I have been in that the drug tests were some crazy amount of drugs, like 13 panel or something like that, so be careful. I would just get through what you're doing without anything which might cause you harm in the long run. Don't be tempted by friends saying they have something good you have to try, just work towards your freedom, you don't want the hassle that will come about if you fuck up.
-------------------- ©️
|
Heisencybin
Heisencybin



Registered: 02/16/15
Posts: 1,020
Loc: Ohio
|
Re: Drug court and untestable drugs? [Re: Lucis]
#23600619 - 09/01/16 10:14 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Yeahhhh I guess I'm just a little frustrated. I know I have to stay clean for the most part. Sure as hell beats jail. I'm beginning to get scared about kratom as I just order like 2 pounds because of the upcoming ban. I wonder if they will add that to drug testing. I know they can test specifically for it. Besides using kratom occasionally, I am preparing to have my very first dmt trip eventually. So that means getting everything in my life sorted out. I haven't tripped since January so I might do a small mushroom trip first.. So yeah, probably sticking to the occasional kratom burn, an lsd or mushroom or 2cb trip here and there, and the almighty dmt trip once I'm ready. I should be safe with these substances yes?
|
WyoMX


Registered: 07/06/15
Posts: 2,102
Loc: PNW
|
Re: Drug court and untestable drugs? [Re: Heisencybin]
#23600658 - 09/01/16 10:27 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Should be? Yes, but no one can say for sure. Also be careful most drug courts do at least one home visit and if they find any of those items it won't be good.
|
plasma
ɹoʇɐɹǝpoɯ

Registered: 09/17/08
Posts: 10,001
|
Re: Drug court and untestable drugs? [Re: WyoMX]
#23600671 - 09/01/16 10:30 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Are they doing the dip stick or gc/ms lab test?
|
goldcaphunter
EMS Medic



Registered: 07/29/12
Posts: 7,432
Loc: Massachusetts
Last seen: 3 years, 2 months
|
Re: Drug court and untestable drugs? [Re: plasma]
#23600802 - 09/01/16 11:19 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Can you drink
--------------------
  The picture to the far left is a reminder to our users to stay safe and healthy, that's my third open heart surgery due to over use of amps. Stay safe kiddos
|
Thayendanegea
quiet walker



Registered: 02/20/12
Posts: 7,596
Loc: 7 Lodges Nation
|
Re: Drug court and untestable drugs? [Re: goldcaphunter]
#23600811 - 09/01/16 11:24 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
probably not....I've never seen anyone allowed to do any mood or mind altering substance unless prescribed.
-------------------- Look Deep Into Nature,and Then You Will Understand Everything Better. Albert Einstein
|
plasma
ɹoʇɐɹǝpoɯ

Registered: 09/17/08
Posts: 10,001
|
Re: Drug court and untestable drugs? [Re: Thayendanegea]
#23600824 - 09/01/16 11:32 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
I'm on probation and I'm allowed to drink. I have drug charges too
|
Heisencybin
Heisencybin



Registered: 02/16/15
Posts: 1,020
Loc: Ohio
|
Re: Drug court and untestable drugs? [Re: plasma]
#23601090 - 09/01/16 12:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Drug court is a lot more intense than regular probation. The paper they gave me yesterday says I'm not even allowed benadryl or sudafed. Which is retarded. I use sudafed all the time. I'll have to get my doctors script for anything and everything. No alcohol whatsoever. Kinda pissed off my girl since she keeps a bottle of jack Daniels around so its going to the neighbors place haha. I'll do the same with my kratom.
Actually I'm thinking about making kratom tinctures so it will stay fresh for years. Especially if they will be testing me for kratom too. I know it's possible to test for and they know I self medicated with it for chronic pain issue. So yeah any advice on making tinctures is welcome too haha. I'm doing a bunch of kratom today and this weekend since I officially start on tuesday. Saying my farewells to alcohol and possibly kratom too :/
I might just stick with shrooms and dmt. Get back into working out n shit. Gotta find thay silver lining
|
JustForToday
New Life, New Beginnings


Registered: 09/08/14
Posts: 3,186
Last seen: 6 years, 5 months
|
Re: Drug court and untestable drugs? [Re: Heisencybin]
#23601196 - 09/01/16 01:36 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Allowed to drink on probation? Alcohol destroys more lives than anything else. Yet if you piss dirty for weed you go to jail.
-------------------- Hey Shae, Are you still doing that hand thing? I heard you was doing that hand thing today. Oh God what is that?!
|
Thayendanegea
quiet walker



Registered: 02/20/12
Posts: 7,596
Loc: 7 Lodges Nation
|
Re: Drug court and untestable drugs? [Re: plasma]
#23601211 - 09/01/16 01:39 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
plasma said: I'm on probation and I'm allowed to drink. I have drug charges too
wow...what state are you in?
-------------------- Look Deep Into Nature,and Then You Will Understand Everything Better. Albert Einstein
|
JustForToday
New Life, New Beginnings


Registered: 09/08/14
Posts: 3,186
Last seen: 6 years, 5 months
|
Re: Drug court and untestable drugs? [Re: Thayendanegea]
#23601238 - 09/01/16 01:45 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
They need to decriminalize most of these scheduled substances. And put a ban on alcohol.
I legit was on probation once when I was 16. I stopped smoking weed but kept using pain pills. Everytime I was drug tested I popped dirty for opiates. Never went to jail once. I prolly did this like 5 times in a row. Now if it would have been weed, it would have violated my probation.
-------------------- Hey Shae, Are you still doing that hand thing? I heard you was doing that hand thing today. Oh God what is that?!
|
Thayendanegea
quiet walker



Registered: 02/20/12
Posts: 7,596
Loc: 7 Lodges Nation
|
Re: Drug court and untestable drugs? [Re: JustForToday] 1
#23601308 - 09/01/16 02:06 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
JustForToday said: They need to decriminalize most of these scheduled substances. And put a ban on alcohol.
I legit was on probation once when I was 16. I stopped smoking weed but kept using pain pills. Everytime I was drug tested I popped dirty for opiates. Never went to jail once. I prolly did this like 5 times in a row. Now if it would have been weed, it would have violated my probation.
They tried that....it was called prohibition and it didn't go over so well nor did it serve it's intended consequences. Banning anything just creates violent black markets that have no checks and balances...look at all the heroin od's now adays because of fentanyl being mixed in without the junkies knowing about it.
-------------------- Look Deep Into Nature,and Then You Will Understand Everything Better. Albert Einstein
|
BANANA.MAN
Turd Ferguson


Registered: 01/11/15
Posts: 7,474
Loc: Ontario Canada
Last seen: 6 months, 3 days
|
Re: Drug court and untestable drugs? [Re: Thayendanegea] 1
#23601328 - 09/01/16 02:14 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
There is no possible way to test for nitrous oxide. It leaves your body so quickly when you exhaile that even if it was illegal you could not be caught for using it.
Speaking of inhailents that cant be tested for, jenkem will ALWAYS be there for you.
|
saythatagain



Registered: 04/11/15
Posts: 980
Loc: Spaceship Earth
Last seen: 10 months, 3 days
|
Re: Drug court and untestable drugs? [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#23601384 - 09/01/16 02:34 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
What panel test and piss/hair/blood? You'll be good with most of the psychedelics I know of except dxm and ketamine, I've heard they can cause false positives for pcp, though never for me. Also your physiology and even hair color matters if its a hair test. As for uppers/downers most are out except ritalin, methadone, and probably some other stuff I cant think of. Also depending on the type and frequency of testing you can get away with using occasionally. There's lots of smokable herbs that wont show but people can't agree if they work or not. dagga, sinicuichi, skullcap etc
-------------------- Trade List
|
Connoisseur

Registered: 05/13/11
Posts: 34,686
Last seen: 5 years, 2 months
|
Re: Drug court and untestable drugs? [Re: Heisencybin]
#23601473 - 09/01/16 03:06 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
wait to see what they test you for on the first test and take it from there
|
Heisencybin
Heisencybin



Registered: 02/16/15
Posts: 1,020
Loc: Ohio
|
Re: Drug court and untestable drugs? [Re: Connoisseur]
#23602145 - 09/01/16 06:23 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Are there any RC benzos that aren't testable? Pretty sure etizolam pops up for benzos
|
Connoisseur

Registered: 05/13/11
Posts: 34,686
Last seen: 5 years, 2 months
|
Re: Drug court and untestable drugs? [Re: Heisencybin]
#23602167 - 09/01/16 06:29 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
yea if they give u the dip im pretty sure they are all possible to be a false positive
|
Fletcher


Registered: 06/14/15
Posts: 679
|
Re: Drug court and untestable drugs? [Re: Heisencybin] 3
#23602177 - 09/01/16 06:31 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Didn't you almost get fired for taking benzos at work, and blamed it on kratom? Get your shit together, man.
|
Heisencybin
Heisencybin



Registered: 02/16/15
Posts: 1,020
Loc: Ohio
|
Re: Drug court and untestable drugs? [Re: Fletcher]
#23602943 - 09/01/16 09:55 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Haha yeahhhh. Well this is all consequence of stupid decisions I made months ago due to having a hard time dealing with chronic pain issues. I got an ovi charge back in april and finally got my pain issue resolved after that. Life's been 100 times better since that. Except this whole drug court thing. I've only taken kratom a handful of times since April and a few nights socially drinking. Haven't touched anything else. I even put on 50 pounds I could use although a lot of it is fat lol
|
PLURAL
PLUR


Registered: 01/16/14
Posts: 31,320
Loc: PLUR
Last seen: 2 months, 29 days
|
Re: Drug court and untestable drugs? [Re: Heisencybin]
#23602970 - 09/01/16 10:02 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
I didn't read any of the replies in this thread, but...
Why accept drug court if you're not willing to stop using drugs?
Should've just done the time.
I am definitely not one to praise our criminal justice system, but idk, drug court is a great program that helps addicts stay out of jail and live a sober and happy life, and I'm not okay with people trying to scam programs to help drug addicts.
Do you consider yourself an addict?
-------------------- PLUR
|
Heisencybin
Heisencybin



Registered: 02/16/15
Posts: 1,020
Loc: Ohio
|
Re: Drug court and untestable drugs? [Re: PLURAL]
#23603182 - 09/01/16 11:15 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Yeah but we all are addicts. Whether it be to drugs, sugar, work, money, religion food, exercise, we're all addicts. I grew up smoking lost daily and drinking occasionally on weekends in college. I also had the rare psychedelic trip. Did well in school, worked in multiple research labs including interning with EPA so I had my shit together. Quit smoking to get my job, but after that I would smoke on weekends mostly and rarely drank, but began tripping more like once a month.
I was then stricken with a horrible chronic pain and digestive issue that completely ruined my life. I quit smoking, but began self medicating with kratom. My gastro even said to keep taking it since it was the only thing that helped and I refused to take pain pills. I became very depressed and anxious, having the odd panic attack here and there. Feeling hopeless after months of constant pain and dependency on kratom to function, I took benzos a few times to escape. Well, I took way too much when I indulged since I was suicidal aND just wanted to forget. I got in trouble and got an ovi charge while on probation, which leads me to where I'm at now.
The pain has been resolved and I am living a life of redemption. Won my girl back, kept my job and no longer need kratom to function. Am I an addict? Of course I am, but to drugs? I don't really think so. Possibly but this is all very circumstancial. I like to get high yes but I'm not helpless against any drug. Maybe I'm in denial, but I highly highly doubt I'd be in this situation if it weren't for my health condition spiraling my life out of control. I never touched any painkiller or benzo prior to this. But I've learned a lot and grown immensely.truly humbling experience and I've come out stronger. But yes, I like to get high on occasion... do you think I'm a "drug addict" considering my experience and choices?
|
|