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reincarnation q, real quick?
    #2359937 - 02/20/04 04:51 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

for those of you who believe, or know about the topic of reincarnation...what do reincarnationists believe happens to your "soul" when the sun gobbles up the earth in a few billion years?


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Re: reincarnation q, real quick? [Re: TODAY]
    #2360158 - 02/20/04 05:42 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

ive wonderd about this too, sort of
if our souls cycle through diffrent living bodies, are they bound to this planet? or am i just as likely to reincarnate as a quanta fish-bug on some planet millions of miles away?

and when are souls 'born'? or are they? if we believe in reincarnation, doesnt that mean that the total number of living things on earth could never rise or fall, because its just the same souls changing shape?

or are we all just one soul that diffuses into temporarily seperate states before returning to the whole?

like the water cycle, every drop falls out of the cloud, rejoins its brothers and continures the cycle, only maintaing a seperate existance from the other drops for a short time

hmmmmm now
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Re: reincarnation q, real quick? [Re: TODAY]
    #2361717 - 02/21/04 12:51 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Okay, so the souls might cycle through different dimensions or planes, maybe they are physically attached to matter properties (gravity, from the star in a while).

Maybe the soul only reincarnates when all matter and souls are redistributed in the universe. Next try style. If so, it would be easy for the God to disallow a soul to continue existence in the newly ordered universe. Thus, the soul is lost to creation and experiences eternity no more, or as nothing? or in a void? A special room that has a window...

Wait.
So, the sun goes Nova. The Earth and all the dust that was my body is scattered in this part of galaxy. Perhaps these particles will form a new solar system and life will evolve again. Some of the atoms that exist in my body now will be reused in new life.

Who knows what kind of properties control the spiritual realm. Consider for a moment that there does exist a reality where all lifes energies exist as eternal spirits (why not, gotta call it something). Would this reality not have rules to govern the behaviours, actions, experiences.
I submit that this reality is as spiritual as any. The only difference is we believe we have a beggining and an end. And we're scared about an unknown, potentially eternal, future.


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Re: reincarnation q, real quick? [Re: TODAY]
    #2362296 - 02/21/04 03:06 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Forget reincarnation.


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Re: reincarnation q, real quick? [Re: TODAY]
    #2362749 - 02/21/04 07:21 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

You're still thinking in terms of this physical plane of existence...




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Re: reincarnation q, real quick? [Re: SkorpivoMusterion]
    #2362916 - 02/21/04 10:09 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Of course he is. To in-carn-ate, means to come into a meat body. That is certainly physical.


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Re: reincarnation q, real quick? [Re: Swami]
    #2363626 - 02/21/04 02:16 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

are SOULS physical?



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Re: reincarnation q, real quick? [Re: SkorpivoMusterion]
    #2364643 - 02/21/04 07:03 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

are SOULS physical?
only as energy......?


Edited by greenhaze (02/21/04 07:05 PM)


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Re: reincarnation q, real quick? [Re: greenhaze]
    #2365180 - 02/21/04 09:06 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

souls.. that's a laugh


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Re: reincarnation q, real quick? [Re: Squatting_Otter]
    #2365208 - 02/21/04 09:20 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

i agree. i dont think their is any personal soul. we all come from the same "soul" or "energy" or whatever you want to call it, and to it we return...and thats just my opinion.


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Re: reincarnation q, real quick? [Re: Atomisk]
    #2368210 - 02/22/04 04:09 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

wow, okay, no one wanted to run with what I was on, eh?

We're going to argue about ^this stuff still?

Re: SkorpivoMusterion
so, like, better question:
sounds to me like this guy thinks that the soul is bound to this planet for some reason. Perhaps TODAY can elaborate on that one, but anyway
Even if it wasn't that souls are physical, just not omnipresent (and perhaps with different/other properties restricting them to this "place" where the sun goes nova soon,) and so doomed to a fate involving an exploding sun.

So, like, are our "souls" supposed to be affected by an exploding star? Are we doomed to be locked in the state at which we died for eternity.

Scientists have told me that in, oh about, three trillion years, black holes will gobble up everything but the occasional stray proton. I can imagine it being mighty lonely if I die frightened, and am forced to spend eternity in darkness.

But there are going to be engergies still. Light has been eminating from stars for like 20 billion years or something. It goes like the energizer bunny. God only knows what star formations, or ?space fluidique, or God knows what those sun rays are going to run into.

Scientists are always looking for older light. Light that has travelled for 15 billion years at least. From the, supposed, earliest galaxies. Don't they ever look at in between the far off galaxies for signs of energy patterns even older?

What were we talking about? Souls? I got my own ideas about souls. Doesn't appear the world is ready for them though ^^.


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Re: reincarnation q, real quick? [Re: recalcitrant]
    #2368286 - 02/22/04 04:30 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Yes, that's the question I was generally leading to...
In my own belief in the system of reincarnation, our soul's (would-be) demise is NOT dependant on THIS physical plane of existence. We CAME FROM the higher dimension, into THIS dimension. This dimension (in my belief) is merely a schoolground for us to LEARN From life. The plane of existence we actually CAME from...is the 'really-real' place.

Just because a sun explodes in this dimension, does not mean that all hell will break loose in the dimension we came from. That place is our TRUE home. Not this plane of existence.

Again, this is from my own personal belief in reincarnation. Others, may differ.




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