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Mad Season
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Re: people in desert climates who have great success have any helpful info?? [Re: wildernessjunkie]
#23602983 - 09/01/16 10:08 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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My advice, coming from a 10% rh desert guy.. Don't worry about room humidity. Also don't worry about condensation as well to show how good your poly is or isn't. I don't even have my top holes stuffed on tubs. Just means I gotta mist more often, if you see me around on fruiting convos, you'll see me saying how much more important fae is over humidity

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Boogieman47
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Re: people in desert climates who have great success have any helpful info?? [Re: Mad Season]
#23603024 - 09/01/16 10:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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OK that makes sense I mist daily but still seem to be having shitty pinsets I know it's MS but I should be getting more fruits leaf was saying they look healthy and I might be having moisture issues I don't run a fan but maybe I'm not misting enough ... but when I mist it doesn't ever seem to bead I'm just trying to get whatever it is I'm doing wrong
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Mad Season
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Re: people in desert climates who have great success have any helpful info?? [Re: Boogieman47] 1
#23603087 - 09/01/16 10:38 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yes those are too dry. That seems like a substrate prep problem, as well as a misting problem. Substrates should be able to have enough moisture for multiple flushes. This is what it should look like. Always use a flashlight in the beginning when trying to figure out surface hydration.
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Mad Season said: How it shouldn't look: (finding the Goldilocks zone)
  These are slightly on the dry side. They need to be MISTED DIRECTLY very briefly. Like a couple passes, a foot or 2 high.
 These are too wet, and going bacterial. Notice the pools of water and thick rubbery mycelium? They need to be cut back on misting for a bit until at a reasonable surface hydration, and increased FAE.
How it should look. Beads of moisture and/or glistening:
Always use a flashlight to look for glistening!
Uncased substrate:
- PussyFart

Cased bulk substrate:
  
Cakes rolled in verm:
- stareatclouds
YOU MIST DIRECTLY BASED ON WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE, AND CATER TO THEIR NEEDS, NOT A SET SCHEDULE OF 2-6 TIMES A DAY!
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Boogieman47
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Re: people in desert climates who have great success have any helpful info?? [Re: Mad Season]
#23603104 - 09/01/16 10:44 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I just upped my water content by a half quart I was only using 4 quarts on a hpoo/coir sub
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Re: people in desert climates who have great success have any helpful info?? [Re: Boogieman47]
#23603152 - 09/01/16 11:04 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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My edit is fucking up on my phone but on those two tubs of pe the surface looked like that with nice beads of water I had a shit ton of pins then I couldn't mist enough but then it seemed like too much so I stopped but other tubs rarely get those beads
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Mad Season
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Re: people in desert climates who have great success have any helpful info?? [Re: Boogieman47]
#23603180 - 09/01/16 11:15 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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This was taken right after misting. Sometimes you gotta mist to bead. Also for PE, you really should be using a casing. Not sure if you are. Peat based casings FTW for PE. It doesn't colonize it like a regular substrate.
Also for epic pinsets, bottom watering is great. Basically just pour a qt or so of water down the side of the tub and replace it every morning
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Re: people in desert climates who have great success have any helpful info?? [Re: Mad Season]
#23603195 - 09/01/16 11:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ya I just bought jiffy mix made a mistake on buying a type that we shouldn't use for that those tubs ... wouldn't that waterlog the sub leaving a qt in all day ? I don't mean to be asking a shit ton of questions sorry man
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Re: people in desert climates who have great success have any helpful info?? [Re: Boogieman47]
#23603213 - 09/01/16 11:29 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nah I don't mind. It won't waterlog if there's a big pinset that needs that water. Bottom watering is only good with big pinsets that the substrate alone couldn't handle. It's the kinda pinsets that turn into a ton of aborts.
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Re: people in desert climates who have great success have any helpful info?? [Re: Mad Season]
#23603243 - 09/01/16 11:41 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Oh OK so after it starts pinning, I get it ... I currently have 13 new tubs that I'm hoping for better results which is why I'm trying to get as much info while they are colonizing... so the humidifier can go ? So should I run with no poly on top and just mist more?
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Re: people in desert climates who have great success have any helpful info?? [Re: Boogieman47]
#23603294 - 09/02/16 12:01 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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noob47 said: Oh OK so after it starts pinning, I get it ... I currently have 13 new tubs that I'm hoping for better results which is why I'm trying to get as much info while they are colonizing... so the humidifier can go ? So should I run with no poly on top and just mist more?
I would say if you can open up ALL holes and keep the substrate glistening at all times than your mushrooms will love you.
It's all about the time you can afford and what your substrate needs IMO...
A moist substrate with loose top holes is what I'm always after! (That's what she said!)
I also live in a dry climate. Real dry...
My top holes still have poly-but are almost non-existent- and my bottom holes are a lot more loose than most I've seen. My sub stays glistening and I stay happy!
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Re: people in desert climates who have great success have any helpful info?? [Re: Boogieman47]
#23603297 - 09/02/16 12:02 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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You should do what you're comfortable with. I would be aiming more for keeping them as maintenance free as possible for now. So don't unstuff the top holes, but ditch the humidifier. I was just pointing out that humidity isn't as needed as most people seem to think, just good eyes that can keep the substrate happy
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Re: people in desert climates who have great success have any helpful info?? [Re: wildernessjunkie]
#23603306 - 09/02/16 12:06 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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wildernessjunkie said: I do primarily invitro with bags these days. Im hoping that I can just keep on keeping on with that method.
And I like WJ over junkie, 
hey man, quick question. I was doing invitro bags a few years back, but the guy I was ordering from isn't around anymore. What type of method are you using with your bags, if you don't mind me asking. Are you preparing them yourself?
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Re: people in desert climates who have great success have any helpful info?? [Re: user265896]
#23603315 - 09/02/16 12:09 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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wildernessjunkie said: I do primarily invitro with bags these days. Im hoping that I can just keep on keeping on with that method.
And I like WJ over junkie, 
hey man, quick question. I was doing invitro bags a few years back, but the guy I was ordering from isn't around anymore. What type of method are you using with your bags, if you don't mind me asking. Are you preparing them yourself?
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Re: people in desert climates who have great success have any helpful info?? [Re: user265896]
#23603347 - 09/02/16 12:25 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ya Morty I usually keep my top poly super lose also I've been tweaking it a bit to see how it works best for me I basically have all day with my tubs so keeping them open wouldn't be an issue but I'd like to get the poly right haha .... mad I will try and just get better at keeping the beads going but I will keep a little light to shine I always went off what was shining through the tubs I will try out the bottom watering for the fat pinsets thanks guys
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Re: people in desert climates who have great success have any helpful info?? [Re: morty422]
#23603352 - 09/02/16 12:28 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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wildernessjunkie said: I do primarily invitro with bags these days. Im hoping that I can just keep on keeping on with that method.
And I like WJ over junkie, 
hey man, quick question. I was doing invitro bags a few years back, but the guy I was ordering from isn't around anymore. What type of method are you using with your bags, if you don't mind me asking. Are you preparing them yourself?
Yarr.... The post pirate!
Haha I don't mind... it sux making a thread for a quick question but I know it's not proper etiquette
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Re: people in desert climates who have great success have any helpful info?? [Re: Boogieman47]
#23603568 - 09/02/16 02:23 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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SORRY TO THREAD-JACK! the really ironic thing is I just realized the guy I used to order in-vitro bags from has been posting in this thread. I don't even know what to think now, I give up!
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Re: people in desert climates who have great success have any helpful info?? [Re: user265896]
#23603574 - 09/02/16 02:30 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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No worries man
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Re: people in desert climates who have great success have any helpful info?? [Re: wildernessjunkie]
#23604033 - 09/02/16 08:52 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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wildernessjunkie said: No casing. I do a jar of spawn to two of oven treated CVG in a .5ug large bag.

Hopefully that patch will retain the moisture in the drier climate.
Hey WJ, sorry if you covered this, but what about FAE...do you punch a couple holes in the bag or is it that once they pop invitro they don't really need that much FAE as they're busting to go?
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Mad Season
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Re: people in desert climates who have great success have any helpful info?? [Re: user265896]
#23604063 - 09/02/16 09:13 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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user265896 said: SORRY TO THREAD-JACK! the really ironic thing is I just realized the guy I used to order in-vitro bags from has been posting in this thread. I don't even know what to think now, I give up!
If you mean me, it wasn't me xD. The mad season was actually ran by RR and his wife. Once she passed away, RR retired from mushrooms, gave away all his crap, and took down the site.
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Re: people in desert climates who have great success have any helpful info?? [Re: Mad Season]
#23604082 - 09/02/16 09:21 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Are you serious?! Wow that's a trip lol. Sorry to hear about RR's wife though, hopefully he's doing well these days. Do you know where can I get more info about in-vitro bags? I don't want to make my own, that's the thing.
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