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Need a TEK * 1
    #23598897 - 08/31/16 08:15 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Apparently this wasn't a good idea, caught some flack so I've taken the post down and thanks to those of you who gave me a few links, ideas, and fingers pointed in the right direction!


Edited by Infinitishroomz (09/01/16 05:43 AM)


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Re: Need a TEK [Re: Infinitishroomz]
    #23598919 - 08/31/16 08:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

20 pounds a month in dry weight! Say what.
Maybe I read that wrong.


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Re: Need a TEK [Re: Infinitishroomz] * 1
    #23598921 - 08/31/16 08:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I will edit this post back to its original form after a mod fixes OP's fuck up.
THIS IS WHAT THE OP WAS BEFORE DELETION:

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Infinitishroomz said:
First an introduction, call me Infiniti :smile:

There was another paragraph here but for safety sake it had to be deleted. If there is a way to access the Shroomery through a VPN, I'll delete this account and start more anonymously.

I have SOME grow experience but none have been my own from start to finish so in essence this will all be new to me. I have the entire. "Let's Grow Mushrooms" series and have watched it start to finish at least a dozen times, I have all the required reading read and on hand should I need to reference anything during the process and obviously now have an account here at the Shroomery. Although hesitant to do so... I don't like the fact that I was blocked from registering because of a VPN. I'd really much prefer to remain anonymous but it just wouldn't work until I disabled PIA.

I've been around the Shroomery for years though, have no fear and I'm no shitcunt looking for a handout. I'm more than willing to put in the time and effort to learn myself, in fact I'm rather excited about it! :laugh:

Onto the issue's:

1 - I understand dipping my feet in and getting them wet, see what it's all about first hand, start to finish on a project that is solely my own BUT... That's not really an option here. I need a TEK that will allow for 20 pounds a month turnover, dry weight. What TEK/method will yield these kinds of results?

2 - just HOW sanitary does shit need to be? My thoughts are to line the floor with Masonite board then covered in thick contractor's plastic. Will also be lining the walls with contractors plastic but don't know if the ceiling will be feasible to do without tacking it up some how. From there, sanitize the entire room with alcohol and from this point forward the room will ONLY be entered while wearing Tyvek suits so it should stay sanitary. The issue I don't know how clean the place is and by that I mean I have neighbors on the other side of the wall and I don't know what kind of funky shit has/is/will be growing inside my walls so the entire place needs to be decked out just to be sure.

Here is a list of things that I plan to have inside the room after sanitization.

Purifier-
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00370BLLM/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=3EHV6B1KZFHJK&coliid=I1IV5GHMZD95J3

Pressure Cooker-
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0002808ZM/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=3EHV6B1KZFHJK&coliid=I17Y5EMT7O9ADN&psc=1

Dehydrator (this may end up outside the clean room because of heat generation)-
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HVJOBC6/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=3EHV6B1KZFHJK&coliid=I2M0ZM9KUKXQ4X

Tent-
https://gorillagrowtent.com/product/grow-tent-1010-grow-tent-setup/

Inside the tent will be several Wire Shelves-
https://www.amazon.com/Sandusky-WS241430-Adjustable-Shelving-Shelves/dp/B01KYB6ZLW/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1472695010&sr=8-3&keywords=wire+shelving

There will also be odds and ends that I will need suggestions from the community about. Things such as humidifier's, hygrometer, light's, and any automated controllers I will need. I also need a burner that can handle the huge ass PC, I'm not entirely comfortable having a propane burner indoors. Will induction work? Will I burn the place down trying? I saw some things like light timers and having 2 humidifier's, one ultrasonic and one cool mist, why I don't know. Stuff like these questions is what I'm here for.

3- Clearly gonna be an expensive endeavor, I'm not concerned about that, been saving a while. What I AM seeking is how to bring this altogether and make it happen. If I'm missing anything on my shopping lists please let me know so that I can plan to acquire them.

I'm 100% certain I have forgotten a few things so please share your experiences with me if you've gotten "bulk" grows up and running in the past and what you did to make things go well for you and, possibly more important, what DIDNT go well for you so that others may learn from your mistakes or less than ideal outcomes.

Thanks and look forward to some intersting replies!







THIS IS MY ORIGINAL RESPONSE TO OP:
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Infinitishroomz said:
1 - I understand dipping my feet in and getting them wet, see what it's all about first hand, start to finish on a project that is solely my own BUT... That's not really an option here. I need a TEK that will allow for 20 pounds a month turnover, dry weight. What TEK/method will yield these kinds of results?





I stopped reading when I got to that point. Welcome to the Shroomery anyway.

:popcorn:


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Re: Need a TEK [Re: Psychedel.EXE]
    #23598933 - 08/31/16 08:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Need a TEK [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #23598958 - 08/31/16 08:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Rotate 30 monotubs


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Re: Need a TEK [Re: Infinitishroomz]
    #23598967 - 08/31/16 08:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

:whathesaid:


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2 - just HOW sanitary does shit need to be? My thoughts are to line the floor with Masonite board then covered in thick contractor's plastic. Will also be lining the walls with contractors plastic but don't know if the ceiling will be feasible to do without tacking it up some how. From there, sanitize the entire room with alcohol and from this point forward the room will ONLY be entered while wearing Tyvek suits so it should stay sanitary. The issue I don't know how clean the place is and by that I mean I have neighbors on the other side of the wall and I don't know what kind of funky shit has/is/will be growing inside my walls so the entire place needs to be decked out just to be sure.



No need for all that jazz. Just use a SAB with proper sterile procedures and you'll be fine :thumbup:


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Re: Need a TEK [Re: Infinitishroomz]
    #23598972 - 08/31/16 08:31 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I need a TEK that will allow for 20 pounds a month turnover, dry weight. What TEK/method will yield these kinds of results?




Any bulk tek can be scaled up. 20lbs is a hell of a lot of labor.

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From there, sanitize the entire room with alcohol




Youre gonna burn your house down....

With that said though; You guys remember any of this shit!?

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15023821

Or this



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Re: Need a TEK [Re: wildernessjunkie]
    #23599005 - 08/31/16 08:41 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Is it really not feasible? If so I would appreciate any feedback as to why this would be so challenging. I fully get the labor involved but I'm looking at it this way, if I get some jars going and then do grain to grain transfers wouldn't it scale up fairly easily? The way it's described in the video makes it seem like the mycelium will colonize as much as I give them TO colonize and then it's as simple as fruiting them. Most of the labor seems to be setting the room up to do this in and then plucking all the fruits of my labor... See what I did there?? Hehe


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Re: Need a TEK [Re: wildernessjunkie]
    #23599007 - 08/31/16 08:41 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I need a TEK that will allow for 20 pounds a month turnover, dry weight. What TEK/method will yield these kinds of results?




Any bulk tek can be scaled up. 20lbs is a hell of a lot of labor.

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From there, sanitize the entire room with alcohol




Youre gonna burn your house down....

With that said though; You guys remember any of this shit!?

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15023821

Or this





That pic is sweet I'm going to try something like that once I get my basement... that  link is a pretty dope set up also tons of moving tubs checking misting basically an all day job


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Re: Need a TEK [Re: Infinitishroomz]
    #23599015 - 08/31/16 08:43 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I'm not understanding why 20 pounds is so crazy? I've seen some of these guys growing 10 pounds dry weight in a much less elaborate setup than what I've described.

Is it really not feasible? If so I would appreciate any feedback as to why this would be so challenging. I fully get the labor involved but I'm looking at it this way, if I get some jars going and then do grain to grain transfers wouldn't it scale up fairly easily? The way it's described in the video makes it seem like the mycelium will colonize as much as I give them TO colonize and then it's as simple as fruiting them. Most of the labor seems to be setting the room up to do this in and then plucking all the fruits of my labor... See what I did there?? Hehe



I'm doing more then that with half the effort right now...the biggest hurdle for you will be making spawn and making sure it's clean


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Re: Need a TEK [Re: cronicr]
    #23599031 - 08/31/16 08:49 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

what's that cron like 3-400 jars  and a truck full of sub ?


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Re: Need a TEK [Re: Boogieman47] * 1
    #23599037 - 08/31/16 08:52 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

20lbs dry for a first grow????

thats like being in a orgy when you dont know how to masturbate.


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Re: Need a TEK [Re: cronicr]
    #23599040 - 08/31/16 08:53 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

20 lbs/mnth is doable for sure. But you need to have a system and some good quality experience to make it happen. Its not just something where you can watch the videos and then become a master at it.

Do you have agar experience?
Do you have isolates/clones already?
Have you done bulk grows before?
How will you pasteurize so much substrate?

If you think you can do it, then no one is going to stop you. But judging from the OP, I think you have a long way to go to get to where you want to be.


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Re: Need a TEK [Re: wildernessjunkie]
    #23599052 - 08/31/16 08:56 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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20 lbs/mnth is doable for sure. But you need to have a system and some good quality experience to make it happen. Its not just something where you can watch the videos and then become a master at it.

Do you have agar experience?
Do you have isolates/clones already?
Have you done bulk grows before?
How will you pasteurize so much substrate?





In all fairness, pasteurizing loads of sub is a non issue... CVG


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Re: Need a TEK [Re: wildernessjunkie]
    #23599053 - 08/31/16 08:57 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

My first grow produced a whopping 8 grams first flush in a 66 qt mono so suck it haha.... ya but cvg is alot of money for that much a 35 lb bag of verm was 40$ and figure 10$ for three tubs of coir and you need thirty tubs 


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Re: Need a TEK [Re: Boogieman47]
    #23599057 - 08/31/16 08:58 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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what's that cron like 3-400 jars  and a truck full of sub ?



Pretty much...I'm doing edibles though


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    #23599066 - 08/31/16 09:01 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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what's that cron like 3-400 jars  and a truck full of sub ?



Pretty much...I'm doing edibles though



We all are just some are more fun to consume haha ... I'm ordering some reishi to make tinctures for my grams arthritis pasty said they just take a minute to blob


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Re: Need a TEK [Re: Boogieman47]
    #23599068 - 08/31/16 09:02 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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In all fairness, pasteurizing loads of sub is a non issue... CVG




Im not on the bucket bandwagon though. Im a rebel like that. Ive had inconsistent results with it.

Dont mistake me though, Im not trying to shoot down his goal. But rather just put a reality check on it. If he thinks he can do it, then he's in the right place to figure it out.


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Re: Need a TEK [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #23599069 - 08/31/16 09:02 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

SAB = Still Air Box... Took a bit of googling but I got you now. So inside the tent will be sterile enough to handle the grow and the Box will only be used for inoculation?

Again I don't see why this seems so difficult to achieve, I mean laborious sure but really the payoff is HUGE! This is a new hobby and there are very important things going on behind the scenes here. Too many people are stuck in zombie mode and we need to break free as many souls as possible. if I didn't mention before but I will not be undertaking this on my own, I will have a buddy/partner to offload some of this work on. Between the two of us, both mechanically inclined, we should be able to pull this off without too much of a hard time. I just need to know what steps to take in order to bring this to fruition!

Seems to me the tried and true "Let's Grow Mushrooms" series is a bit dated. By no means do I mean invalid or anything but as time goes on, new techniques come to be, new materials are made, new methods discovered etc this is an ever changing environment and I'm trying to get involved for all the right reasons


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Re: Need a TEK [Re: cronicr] * 1
    #23599072 - 08/31/16 09:03 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

20 pounds a month is more than anyone should admit to doing..  You're basically putting a spotlight on yourself and what you're trying to do, which is way more illlegal than the hobbyist type discussion that typically goes on here.  Seriously, if you have to ask how to grow 20 pounds, you aren't ready to grow 20 pounds.

There is no payoff.  Might not want to talk like you're a wannabe drug lord, especially if you don't even know that fruiting isn't sterile.

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I'm trying to get involved for all the right reasons




Oh I'm sure.


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