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Update. First time grow, are these hyphal knots/ pins?
    #23598639 - 08/31/16 07:08 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

So I'm busy with my first grow, I currently have 8 cakes in the fruiting chamber, yes I know I didn't use a SGFC and I have my reasons, I am also aware that there are water droplets that have accumulated on the cake in question and I have made adjustments to try and prevent this from happening again :smile:.
Any way 3 of my other cakes just started pinning, had light white hyphal knots, a few days later a cap formed on the tips, they look just like most of the pictures I've seen on how they should look.
But this one cake has formed brown circular knots/ growths? Is this normal? Should I be worried?


Any feedback will be greatly appreciated :smile:


Edited by WeedyZA (09/04/16 04:39 PM)


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Re: First time grow, are these hyphal knots/ pins? [Re: WeedyZA]
    #23598648 - 08/31/16 07:13 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Those look like blobs to me, they happen sometimes. Sometimes they form into fruits or sometimes just mutant blobs.


More common with some varieties than others (the PE types especially) but I have them In some GT trays right now too. Youre fine


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Re: First time grow, are these hyphal knots/ pins? [Re: mushpunx]
    #23598698 - 08/31/16 07:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

looks too humid and not enough fresh air


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Re: First time grow, are these hyphal knots/ pins? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23598711 - 08/31/16 07:29 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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looks too humid and not enough fresh air




I didnt notice the fruiting chamber I thought he took it out for a photo


Is that your fruiting chamber? Why is there chicken wire/is there holes?


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Re: First time grow, are these hyphal knots/ pins? [Re: mushpunx]
    #23598911 - 08/31/16 08:19 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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looks too humid and not enough fresh air




I didnt notice the fruiting chamber I thought he took it out for a photo


Is that your fruiting chamber? Why is there chicken wire/is there holes?





The chicken wire is to keep the cakes off the bottom of the chamber so they don't sit in water,the reason I'm using this type of chamber is because sometimes I won't be able to get to my cakes and see to them for up to 5 days in a row so I set up an automatic chamber,also because the only room I can keep them in is kind of busy and I didn't want contaminations easily getting in through the holes in a sgfc, so I set up an ultra sonic humidifier with an airfilter that constantly blows a stream of vapour into the chamber with one exit hole at the bottom that let's the co2 and any water that builds up escape. I got this idea from errowid and so far it seems to be working. I actually turned it up for a day, got worried it was too dry, this is why it looks a little too humid in the pic.
But there is constant airflow in the chamber coming from the humidifier, if you put your hand by the "exit" hole you can feel a very slight breeze.


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Re: First time grow, are these hyphal knots/ pins? [Re: WeedyZA] * 1
    #23598982 - 08/31/16 08:34 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Why cant you access your cakes for 5 days at a time?

If I couldn't get to my cakes to give then proper maitinence in a SGFC I would use a mono tub.


I dunno man, I find your set up a  bit dubious


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Re: First time grow, are these hyphal knots/ pins? [Re: mushpunx]
    #23598997 - 08/31/16 08:39 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Why cant you access your cakes for 5 days at a time?

If I couldn't get to my cakes to give then proper maitinence in a SGFC I would use a mono tub.


I dunno man, I find your set up a  bit dubious




I just spend a lot of time away from home :smile:
If you are interested this is what I based my chamber on,the 3rd chamber method.
https://erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_mmgg.shtml


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Re: First time grow, are these hyphal knots/ pins? [Re: WeedyZA] * 1
    #23599009 - 08/31/16 08:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Eeek...I would avoid erowid


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Re: First time grow, are these hyphal knots/ pins? [Re: WeedyZA]
    #23599013 - 08/31/16 08:43 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

that shit is from 1998! and it states on the webpage..

Erowid Archived Document (Out of Date or Contains Known Errors)!!!!!!! ahhhhh

omfg i remember the drip lid thing. lolololololololol
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Re: First time grow, are these hyphal knots/ pins? [Re: cronicr]
    #23599060 - 08/31/16 09:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Eeek...I would avoid erowid





To clarify erowid is a very good source of info on all kinds of drugs. That's what that website is good for.

Cultivating anything, erowid is not a good source. Erowid is a very outdated site that only gets updated when a new drug is discovered. And only that is updated.


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Re: First time grow, are these hyphal knots/ pins? [Re: mushboy]
    #23599064 - 08/31/16 09:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Hahaha I just used that chambers idea... is it really that bad :confused:I didn't follow it's tek on the cultivation. Even avoided the drip lid because I'm using a humidifier.


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Re: First time grow, are these hyphal knots/ pins? [Re: WeedyZA]
    #23599107 - 08/31/16 09:16 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

im not trying to hate but this webpage is an AMAZING resource
..why go to erowid to grow and then come here to post??

and gone for five days at a time but you want to leave what could be
a felony just lying around?? just assuming you are not growing edibles.


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Re: First time grow, are these hyphal knots/ pins? [Re: mushboy]
    #23599117 - 08/31/16 09:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I used this page for loads of info actually. Just not the chamber.


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Re: First time grow, are these hyphal knots/ pins? [Re: WeedyZA]
    #23599576 - 08/31/16 11:39 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I used this page for loads of info actually. Just not the chamber.





If you really aren't around to maintain a S GFC I would put those cakes in a (smaller) plastic tub with polyfill stuffed in the holes monotub style, or make a fruiting chamber for each individual cake out of 2 litre soda bottles


Cakes aren't really something you want to just leave to fruit unless you have a greenhouse, they are fickle and usually need attention


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Re: First time grow, are these hyphal knots/ pins? [Re: mushpunx]
    #23599847 - 09/01/16 02:58 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Looks like the result of bacteria. 

The Myc near the bottom looks matted, and that's a tell tale sign of bacteria.  Pretty soon, that cake will have little puffballs all over it that look like cottage cheese.  It'll still fruit but just watch for mold.  Bacteria will only affect yield, but mold will destroy your cake. 

Also, increase fanning increments, and let that puppy dry out a bit incrementally.  Reduce misting and reduce the humidity a bit.    It looks like it's oversaturated.


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Re: First time grow, are these hyphal knots/ pins? [Re: Mushierage]
    #23600294 - 09/01/16 08:31 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Erowid is a pile of shit for all info including about drugs.

A SGFC is more automatic than what you came up with. If I had to be gone 5 days i would still rather have them neglected in a SGFC than in the death trap


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Re: First time grow, are these hyphal knots/ pins? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23601395 - 09/01/16 02:38 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Erowid is a pile of shit for all info including about drugs.

A SGFC is more automatic than what you came up with. If I had to be gone 5 days i would still rather have them neglected in a SGFC than in the death trap




Well there is would have to disagree,I've been using erowid for many many years now and I have always found their info on drugs to be very accurate. At least for my personal experiences.
But I am definitely a noob when it comes to growing mushrooms. Can you tell me why my chamber is a death trap? I mean like I said I'm a noob but it seemed to offer everything that is needed, constant FAE and constant steady humidity  (just have to play until I find the correct humidity range).


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Re: First time grow, are these hyphal knots/ pins? [Re: cronicr]
    #23601425 - 09/01/16 02:49 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Why cant you access your cakes for 5 days at a time?

If I couldn't get to my cakes to give then proper maitinence in a SGFC I would use a mono tub.


I dunno man, I find your set up a  bit dubious



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Eeek...I would avoid erowid




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Re: First time grow, are these hyphal knots/ pins? [Re: WeedyZA] * 1
    #23601443 - 09/01/16 02:55 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

You dont want constant steady humidity, and you really shouldnt use a hydrometer.
The humidity needs to flucuate naturally, you want a constant evaporation of water off your substrates surface.

For frequent air exchange to occur, you need holes in your fruiting chamber.


Without a photo/description of your FC I dont know how itz set up. But please tell me it doesn't have a drip shield :lol:




Id tell you to build a SGFC but if you aren't around to take care of it it wont work properly


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Re: First time grow, are these hyphal knots/ pins? [Re: mushpunx]
    #23601670 - 09/01/16 04:07 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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You dont want constant steady humidity, and you really shouldnt use a hydrometer.
The humidity needs to flucuate naturally, you want a constant evaporation of water off your substrates surface.

For frequent air exchange to occur, you need holes in your fruiting chamber.


Without a photo/description of your FC I dont know how itz set up. But please tell me it doesn't have a drip shield :lol:




Id tell you to build a SGFC but if you aren't around to take care of it it wont work properly




Thank you for telling me what is wrong instead of just saying it is wrong :laugh:.

No drip shield. And it does have a hole that let's air escape. Like I said there is a very slight but constant breeze that can be felt if you put your hand by the hole, ok I really wasn't aware that it can't be a constant set humidity.

I'll see how this setup goes for a while longer,if I'm unhappy with my yield or struggle with contaminations or any other problem I will look at making a new chamber.
Thanks for your replies :smile:


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