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Not fruiting. Contamination? Too much humidity? Details with Pictures. * 1
    #23597990 - 08/31/16 03:48 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Hello, this is my first cultivation and my first post here. I've been reading a lot of this forum and want to thanks you all for the kind information. Nevertheless I may have been a bad student.

10 days ago I put into my Fructification Chamber a 1,5Gallon or so of colonized Rye (Cubensis, Moby Dick) with a thin layer of 50/50 vermiculite/coco substrate, at 75f and 100%RH (probably more) and a Fluorescent light 16/8

The FC I built was from a tek I heard a long time ago. It had water on the bottom with an aquarium heater to get the 100% RH easily and also holes filled with polyfill for Gas Exchange. Despite that setup could have worked out for the RH, I was also misting like 4 times a day so my casing got oversaturated. About the FAE the Polifyll was way too tight and I was only fanning 4 times a day manually. This went like that for 7 days.

3 days ago I realized that what I thought were Hyphael Knots, were actually balls of mycelium with little spikes on them. I got scared it may be Trich or any kind of reaction of the mycelium to contaminants. (Picture 2) So I changed the setup. Changed the water for perlite, put the heater outside the FC, and loosen the polyfill. Now my FC is the one you see in the picture, the temperature is at 73f and the RH is between 95% and 100%, misting only once a day cause I think must of the water is being evaporated from the perlite. I'm also running 16hours a day a stationary fan into the room pointing near but not directly into the FC. The same day I changed the FC I noted a small redish point that you can see in the center of the first picture (is it soon-to-be-primordia? if so it haven't changed in 3 days), and also the spikes on the balls of mycelium seems to not be growing anymore (what are those, then?).

But today something came into my mind. Since I did an alien set-up (not good, I know, I wish I have found the SGFC or Monotub tek earlier) with way too much humidity (water inside the chamber + misting + casing) what if a big part of that water went into the bottom of the box in which I have this big cake?. I took a look at the bottom of it and It has those ugly big yellow spots on the 4th picture.

So, my main questions are:
1. Are those yellow spots contamination slowly eating from the bottom? The FC smells just like mushrooms. Or are those just metabolites? Cause I think it should have Fruited a long time ago so it may be just mycelium aging. Also the half of that mycelium comes from Jars of Grain-to-grain transfers.
2. About the red spot, is it primordia on it's way?
3. Whats your evaluation on the mycelium? What about those spikey balls? May be on the way to overlay?
4. WHAT SHOULD I DO?¿ This is the most important one. Im thinking of just taking that cake out of the box and set it on top of the perlite with the current setup and just wait. Will it ever fruit? The mycelium must feel pretty confused at this point.







I know this is a long post but I wanted to be as precise as possibly. I hope you guys can help me. Thanks!!.

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Re: Not fruiting. Contamination? Too much humidity? Details with Pictures. [Re: merridew70] * 1
    #23598052 - 08/31/16 04:12 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Humidity shouldn't be at 100% on any type of grow like 60-95%  at most from what I've read why do you have so many holes? With that many I doubt your humidity is that high the yellow spots are metabolites meaning it's fighting off something painting your tubs doesn't prevent side pins liners do just wait it out you will get pins if not toss it in your garden ... if you're misting stop unless it looks dry but if you're saying the humidity is high it shouldn't be


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Re: Not fruiting. Contamination? Too much humidity? Details with Pictures. [Re: Boogieman47]
    #23598096 - 08/31/16 04:26 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Hey! thanks for your response.

About the RH both of my hygrometers are between 95-100% so I guess it's okay.
Yes, liners, cause of the shrinkage. Sadly I found about that later.

I've put so much work into this that I don't want to leave it to a matter of luck. It should have be fruiting by now, right?. What if I give it a 'cold shock' so I can clean up the excess of water on the bottom? Would that make them fruit and reduce the potential risk of contamination I'm seeing?

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Re: Not fruiting. Contamination? Too much humidity? Details with Pictures. [Re: merridew70] * 1
    #23598116 - 08/31/16 04:31 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

No ten days isn't that long I've had tubs fruit after three weeks if it's too wet it will affect your grow I don't think cold shock is used anymore IDK ? Check how long ago the post on it was just because there is metabolite doesn't mean much just a bit bacterial if it was going to trich out you would of seen it are you running a fan ?


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Re: Not fruiting. Contamination? Too much humidity? Details with Pictures. [Re: Boogieman47]
    #23598173 - 08/31/16 04:51 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Yea, I just checked about 'cold shock' and it's outdated info.
If there is no more room for the mycelium to grow (and that's what those spikey balls are saying I think) why won't it fruit?
Yes, I'm running a fan 16/8 near but not directly to the FC. I don't think FAE is a problem anymore.
You are right about the yellow spots tho, they look just like metabolites. But what about the water sitting on the bottom corners? I think I have to get rid of that. Will it be beneficial to take the cake out of the box? or would the open walls of mycelium be more prone to contaminants?

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Re: Not fruiting. Contamination? Too much humidity? Details with Pictures. [Re: merridew70]
    #23598224 - 08/31/16 05:06 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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noob47 said:
Humidity shouldn't be at 100% on any type of grow like 60-95%  at most from what I've read why do you have so many holes?





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merridew70 said:
About the RH both of my hygrometers are between 95-100% so I guess it's okay
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I've put so much work into this that I don't want to leave it to a matter of luck.
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Re: Not fruiting. Contamination? Too much humidity? Details with Pictures. [Re: merridew70]
    #23598229 - 08/31/16 05:07 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I know azur runs tubs with no liners not sure if it matters about the water at the bottom it should be absorbed but IDK... your casing could be too wet happened to me I just took the top layer off and it started fruiting better


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Re: Not fruiting. Contamination? Too much humidity? Details with Pictures. [Re: Boogieman47]
    #23598480 - 08/31/16 06:27 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Miss azur. He is in the land of the banned.


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