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PsycheUltimatum


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Magic truffles?
#23597785 - 08/31/16 02:45 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I am going to have the privilege of trying magic truffles next month, it will be a first for me as I have never tried them (have had shrooms). Does it differ in experience from an actual mushroom trips I know the chemicals remain about the same (psilocin/psilocybin) but does the trip change in any way due to it being a truffle? Also what are people's general experience on them ?
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They are the same as mushrooms, the sclerotia is essentially just a very tight knot of mycelium. Its function is to protect it through forest fires and what not.
You can actually fruit these as mushrooms too, the fruits are very potent.
Typically the mushrooms for sale on drug markets are Cubensis varieties, which you nornally eat 2-3 grams of for a dose.
Fresh mushrooms are 90% water, so 20-30 grams fresh mushrooms will dry down to 2-3 grams
Fresh truffles are twice as potent as fresh cubes typically, so a typical dose is around a gram or so.
But truffles are denser, they're around 70% water, so 20÷30 grams of truffles will dry down to 6-9 grams.
So - fresh truffles you would eat about half as much as you normally would of mushrooms for a typical dose, dry truffles you need to eat quite a bit more.
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Re: Magic truffles? [Re: mushpunx]
#23598260 - 08/31/16 05:18 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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mushpunx said: They are the same as mushrooms, the sclerotia is essentially just a very tight knot of mycelium. Its function is to protect it through forest fires and what not.
You can actually fruit these as mushrooms too, the fruits are very potent.
Typically the mushrooms for sale on drug markets are Cubensis varieties, which you nornally eat 2-3 grams of for a dose.
Fresh mushrooms are 90% water, so 20-30 grams fresh mushrooms will dry down to 2-3 grams
Fresh truffles are twice as potent as fresh cubes typically, so a typical dose is around a gram or so.
But truffles are denser, they're around 70% water, so 20÷30 grams of truffles will dry down to 6-9 grams.
So - fresh truffles you would eat about half as much as you normally would of mushrooms for a typical dose, dry truffles you need to eat quite a bit more.
Yeah thought there wouldn't be much difference lol, I will be getting 15 gram dried of a strong strain can't remember which one but shall be exciting stuff.
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You will definetly want to powder them because they're like rocks- make tea or gel caps
You'll wanna start out with about 7 grams Id say
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Re: Magic truffles? [Re: mushpunx]
#23598587 - 08/31/16 06:53 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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mushpunx said: You will definetly want to powder them because they're like rocks- make tea or gel caps
You'll wanna start out with about 7 grams Id say
I was wondering about that, how would I go about powdering them, pestle and mortar? Yeah I think your right about 7 grams I was recommended for a dose of 7.5gram.
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Yea mortar and pestle, coffee grinder , food processor
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Re: Magic truffles? [Re: mushpunx]
#23598701 - 08/31/16 07:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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mushpunx said: Yea mortar and pestle, coffee grinder , food processor
Cheers man will keep this in mind
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Re: Magic truffles? [Re: mushpunx]
#23599761 - 09/01/16 02:04 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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What is an easy way to powder them? I still have 12g lying around from awhile back when I did 8g. Also, DON'T just do 7g, it does almost nothing, it's almost at threshold, the only visuals I got from 8g was the lights got a bit brighter and the grass was kinda dancing to music, but nothing more
I want to do all 12g for my next trip
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SvampebobFirkant said: What is an easy way to powder them? I still have 12g lying around from awhile back when I did 8g. Also, DON'T just do 7g, it does almost nothing, it's almost at threshold, the only visuals I got from 8g was the lights got a bit brighter and the grass was kinda dancing to music, but nothing more
I want to do all 12g for my next trip
I would also like to know the easiest way to powder them anyone? Oh I see maybe I will have to up my dose, do you know what type of truffles you had?
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Since i used to buy all my shrooms from dutch smartshops ive used fresh magic truffles quite often. IMO the best way to taken them is yogurt but eating them as is works too. They really dont taste that bad.
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howsyournaggerdoin said: Since i used to buy all my shrooms from dutch smartshops ive used fresh magic truffles quite often. IMO the best way to taken them is yogurt but eating them as is works too. They really dont taste that bad.
Maybe mines will be fresh but then 15 gram of fresh truffles would equate to what in dried shrooms does anybody know?
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All truffles sold in the netherlands are fresh. Selling dried truffels is illegal as far as i know.
I think 1,5 - 2,5g depending on potency but maybe more if theyre very strong
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howsyournaggerdoin said: All truffles sold in the netherlands are fresh. Selling dried truffels is illegal as far as i know.
I think 1,5 - 2,5g depending on potency but maybe more if theyre very strong
Ooooo so I would need to eat a full 15 grams of truffles just to get 2.5g worth of mushrooms dose ? Not good IMO?
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SvampebobFirkant said: What is an easy way to powder them? I still have 12g lying around from awhile back when I did 8g. Also, DON'T just do 7g, it does almost nothing, it's almost at threshold, the only visuals I got from 8g was the lights got a bit brighter and the grass was kinda dancing to music, but nothing more
I want to do all 12g for my next trip
I would also like to know the easiest way to powder them anyone? Oh I see maybe I will have to up my dose, do you know what type of truffles you had?
I don't remember the name, bought them domestic on DNM, but I was told they were very potent, and my friend also confirmed that claim.
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howsyournaggerdoin said: All truffles sold in the netherlands are fresh. Selling dried truffels is illegal as far as i know.
I think 1,5 - 2,5g depending on potency but maybe more if theyre very strong
Ooooo so I would need to eat a full 15 grams of truffles just to get 2.5g worth of mushrooms dose ? Not good IMO?
You need to eat 15g DRIED to get same trip as 2,5g dried shrooms, fresh you will have to eat around 25g
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dgm199419 said:
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SvampebobFirkant said: What is an easy way to powder them? I still have 12g lying around from awhile back when I did 8g. Also, DON'T just do 7g, it does almost nothing, it's almost at threshold, the only visuals I got from 8g was the lights got a bit brighter and the grass was kinda dancing to music, but nothing more
I want to do all 12g for my next trip
I would also like to know the easiest way to powder them anyone? Oh I see maybe I will have to up my dose, do you know what type of truffles you had?
I don't remember the name, bought them domestic on DNM, but I was told they were very potent, and my friend also confirmed that claim.
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howsyournaggerdoin said: All truffles sold in the netherlands are fresh. Selling dried truffels is illegal as far as i know.
I think 1,5 - 2,5g depending on potency but maybe more if theyre very strong
Ooooo so I would need to eat a full 15 grams of truffles just to get 2.5g worth of mushrooms dose ? Not good IMO?
You need to eat 15g DRIED to get same trip as 2,5g dried shrooms, fresh you will have to eat around 25g
Pretty expensive then for a 2.5g trip, dunno if it's really worth it lol maybe I'll just stick to shrooms
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If you have access to shrooms theres no reason why you should be using magic truffles. Even in the netherlands distribution of magic truffles is just a consequence of the magic mushroom ban in 2008.
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howsyournaggerdoin said: If you have access to shrooms theres no reason why you should be using magic truffles. Even in the netherlands distribution of magic truffles is just a consequence of the magic mushroom ban in 2008.
True I was just curious, wanted to see if they held a different kinda magic.
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howsyournaggerdoin said: Since i used to buy all my shrooms from dutch smartshops ive used fresh magic truffles quite often. IMO the best way to taken them is yogurt but eating them as is works too. They really dont taste that bad.
Maybe mines will be fresh but then 15 gram of fresh truffles would equate to what in dried shrooms does anybody know?
How did you miss where I explained all this? It took me a good while to write thst post
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howsyournaggerdoin said: If you have access to shrooms theres no reason why you should be using magic truffles. Even in the netherlands distribution of magic truffles is just a consequence of the magic mushroom ban in 2008.
Why? Truffles are great. They are easy to grow, taste good and are quite potent. Fresh truffles can store up to 3 months in a fridge under proper conditions.
Gram per gram fresh truffles are twice as potent as ffresh cube fruits.
Its true that because truffles have a lower percentage of water content that mushroom fruits that youneed to eat a bigger weight in dried truffles, but they are so dense that it is not a lot of ffungus eat.
15 grams of dried truffles is only a pile aroundt as big as a half dollar coin.
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Re: Magic truffles? [Re: mushpunx]
#23602034 - 09/01/16 05:55 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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@mushpunx I have read over it all, I don't have a clue how I misread it but it all makes sense now lolz, i am in two minds whether or not to actually pursue truffles now but they still sound like they have potential just seems like a lot of effort when fruits are probably more of a sensible approach.
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I will be getting 15 gram dried of a strong strain can't remember which one but shall be exciting stuff.
Going off the "70% water" figure this would be equivalent to 50g fresh sclerotia.
For genuinely strong sclerotia, the typical quoted figures suggest that 15g fresh sclerotia is equivalent to 3g of dried cubes. On that basis 15g of dry sclerotia would be equivalent to 10g dry cubes....
But that sounds a bit optimistic when you read this thread with comments like:
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You need to eat 15g DRIED to get same trip as 2,5g dried shrooms, fresh you will have to eat around 25g
If you need 25g fresh sclerotia to get a trip equivalent to 2.5g dry cubes, that suggests a fairly low potency (not particularly unusual), but then if you need 15g dried sclerotia (assuming 70% water) for the same thing it suggests half the potency is lost in drying......or the figures are going wrong somewhere.....
I've never tried drying sclerotia and I don't know how the potency compares in reality to fresh, so the comments in this thread are interesting.
With fresh sclerotia (especially commercial stuff) the potency can vary widely. At one end of the scale, a standard 15g dose might give little more than threshold effects if it's very weak, at the other it can occasionally surprise you with quite a fierce trip - e.g this kind of thing - 15g Dragon's Dynamite Sclerotia - an indirect way to experience Egypt.
50g fresh (which in theory should weigh 15g dried - i.e the amount mentioned upthread) should be more than enough for a pretty harsh trip even if the potency is nothing special - e.g 50g Mexicana Sclerotia - BURN EVERYTHING
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does the trip change in any way due to it being a truffle? Also what are people's general experience on them ?
Assuming you are eating an equivalent dose, it's difficult to pinpoint any specific differences between sclerotia and mushrooms (I trip mainly on sclerotia but my first handful of trips were on shrooms).
I enjoy them, I would just say be aware that the potency can be unpredictable......
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They're definetly better fresh, they taste good and are plenty strong. A couple marble sized truffles will give a full trip
They grow in jars , you can just leave them in the jars untill harvest if you want, up to a year even
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Re: Magic truffles? [Re: mushpunx]
#23603560 - 09/02/16 02:17 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I wouldnt say they taste good but definitely not too bad. The reason why i said shrooms are better is because IME theyre cheaper
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Yeah, the dried truffles almost doesn't taste of anything. they're EXTREMELY hard to chew, as I didn't grind them up last time, but even though they didn't taste of much, they made me gag everytime I tried swallowing them, so I had to flush them down with juice.. Then 8g is a lot to chew through
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Its probably better to eat them fresh then
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howsyournaggerdoin said: Its probably better to eat them fresh then
Yeah, I think that's a good idea, I'll try to powder the last 12g I have remaining next time I trip, then I can make a little report of how effective that was
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howsyournaggerdoin said: Its probably better to eat them fresh then
Yeah, I think that's a good idea, I'll try to powder the last 12g I have remaining next time I trip, then I can make a little report of how effective that was
Please do Im curious
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Re: Magic truffles? [Re: mushpunx]
#23603787 - 09/02/16 06:13 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Am gonna leave truffles till shrooms are short in supply I think but very interesting and worth a shot I'm sure
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