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Re: The Good Ol' Days [Re: Alyssa]
#23597596 - 08/31/16 01:51 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Alyssa said: You've "cleverly" ignored the parts of my post you can't take out of context and dismiss. Males are mostly misogynist.
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If there isn't a law saying females must be paid the same as males, we'll be paid less because the patriarchy undervalues us. I hold out hope that there's at least 1 genuine male feminist out there (not just someone who's pretending to be in order to get laid), but so far my hopes have been dashed. If there is one, I'm marrying him.
I wouldn't generalize about people based upon the community you find on the shroomery or elsewhere on the internet. You most likely know several genuine men feminists out in meat space. Myself, I am 100% a proponent of equal treatment of the sexes. There is a debate out there on the actual term "feminist" that might be best served with its own thread.
-------------------- 'I am all for resources being allocated to the widowed single mother of 3, lost husband over seas fighting for our country. I am for vets getting mental health access and resources following war. I am not for free money cause a woman can't close her legs or some chump with low testosterone no going to work cause "i'm sad."' -finalexplosion Nice knowin ya'll! https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23904704/vc/1#23904704
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Re: The Good Ol' Days [Re: qman] 2
#23597626 - 08/31/16 01:59 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Wow, somebody's butt-hurt that their belief in male superiority has been challenged. 
You really see that? Awesome! Good for you! I like you already. Are you a feminist?
I am by the feminist's definition of the word (not the chauvinistic 'men hating' definition).
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ChemicalSpark said: GTFO of this thread please.
GOOD RIDDANCE!
Wow, somebody's butt-hurt that their belief in male superiority has been challenged. 
Wanting the mother of his children to care for them is "male superiority"? 
No. Here are a few things ChemicalSpark said:
"All those groups/concepts are trying to get laws passed that will cater to them, while making it harder for the caucasian." "The only purpose it (feminism) serves now is to brainwash women and create gender inequality in the Females favor."
ChemicalSpark is clearly against equal treatment for women because he knows it would make his life as difficult as theirs.
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Re: The Good Ol' Days [Re: Alyssa] 1
#23597632 - 08/31/16 02:01 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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qman said: Wow, you are out of touch with the female progress in the workforce, no wonder you're a bitter and angry, you haven't caught up to the reality of living in 2016.
Do you know how many women I knew making over 6 figures in the corporate world? Endless.
It's still nowhere near equal, don't give me that bullshit.
No kidding!
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Re: The Good Ol' Days [Re: qman] 2
#23597644 - 08/31/16 02:06 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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qman said: Men and women have different lifestyles, goals, and ambitions.
Because patriarchy conditions them to. We're very similar except when it comes to sex. Human 2.0 (the female) has an incrementally higher average intelligence due to having crammed the same number of neural connections into a smaller space.
"patriarchy conditions them to"
No, biology "conditions" humans. I think you're pissed off at "mother nature". It is what it is.
You're trying to fight off millions of years of biological evolution, it's not gonna happen.
We've had millions of years of biological evolution that taught us how to walk upright. Are you arguing that people shouldn't drive cars because it's unnatural and against our evolution?
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Equal rights does not equate to equal treatment.
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qman said: Men and women have different lifestyles, goals, and ambitions.
Because patriarchy conditions them to. We're very similar except when it comes to sex. Human 2.0 (the female) has an incrementally higher average intelligence due to having crammed the same number of neural connections into a smaller space.
"patriarchy conditions them to"
No, biology "conditions" humans. I think you're pissed off at "mother nature". It is what it is.
You're trying to fight off millions of years of biological evolution, it's not gonna happen.
We've had millions of years of biological evolution that taught us how to walk upright. Are you arguing that people shouldn't drive cars because it's unnatural and against our evolution?
If you're trying to make some sort of analogy you have failed to do so, she's suggesting that males having a dominate role in government and business is the result of a social construct, history shows males have always had the leadership role in human society, this is based in biology.
I don't think early man had any idea what "social conditioning" was the why the sexes behaved the way they did, only spoiled people in the year 2016 piss on human history and place judgment on it.
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Re: The Good Ol' Days [Re: qman] 3
#23597839 - 08/31/16 03:01 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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qman said: she's suggesting that males having a dominate role in government and business is the result of a social construct, history shows males have always had the leadership role in human society, this is based in biology.
Only in societies that had social constructs like that. History shows many matriarchal societies existed.
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qman said: she's suggesting that males having a dominate role in government and business is the result of a social construct, history shows males have always had the leadership role in human society, this is based in biology.
Only in societies that had social constructs like that. History shows many matriarchal societies existed.
"many matriarchal societies existed"
A micro fraction in relative terms.
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Re: The Good Ol' Days [Re: qman] 1
#23597850 - 08/31/16 03:05 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Enough to prove your statement wrong that "males have always had the leadership role in human society, this is based in biology".
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I'm not disagreeing that most societies are patriarchal. I was showing qman that this isn't a biologic necessity.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: I'm not disagreeing that most societies are patriarchal. I was showing qman that this isn't a biologic necessity.
Hey, some men have fucked goats, trees and snowmen, that doesn't mean that males haven't been biologically programmed to desire and fuck human vagina.
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Edit: my God, I just looked at your profile. I forgot about the gender feature on this forum.
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Re: The Good Ol' Days [Re: Alyssa]
#23597992 - 08/31/16 03:48 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Alyssa said: Respect, sister... if you're in fact female. If you're male and you're genuine, far more respect (as you're rarer than hen's teeth); would you like to explain what feminism means to you? If you're male, that is. If you're female, I'm pretty sure I get it. Sorry for the double standard, it's just that I wouldn't be able to quite believe it. All the male "feminists" I've encountered in my life have been posers trying to get laid, I'm really sorry if you're a real male feminist and I'm offending you.
He's just trying to impress you and get laid, don't buy into his fake feminist persona.
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Alyssa said: Respect, sister... if you're in fact female. If you're male and you're genuine, far more respect (as you're rarer than hen's teeth); would you like to explain what feminism means to you? If you're male, that is. If you're female, I'm pretty sure I get it. Sorry for the double standard, it's just that I wouldn't be able to quite believe it. All the male "feminists" I've encountered in my life have been posers trying to get laid, I'm really sorry if you're a real male feminist and I'm offending you.
He's just trying to impress you and get laid, don't buy into his fake feminist persona. 
Yeah, this is what I originally posted, so...
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Re: The Good Ol' Days [Re: qman] 3
#23598027 - 08/31/16 04:01 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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qman said: He's just trying to impress you and get laid, don't buy into his fake feminist persona. 
I'm happily married with a wonderful life (and wife), so there goes that theory...
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Re: The Good Ol' Days [Re: Crumist]
#23598034 - 08/31/16 04:03 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Crumist said: I wouldn't generalize about people based upon the community you find on the shroomery or elsewhere on the internet. You most likely know several genuine men feminists out in meat space.
How have they escaped my attention?
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Crumist said: Myself, I am 100% a proponent of equal treatment of the sexes. There is a debate out there on the actual term "feminist" that might be best served with its own thread.
OK, respect, but feminism is more than that.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: I'm happily married with a wonderful life (and wife), so there goes that theory...
Wow, brother, you are awesome! I wish you were looking for a girlfriend. I seriously haven't met anyone like you. While I was asleep you demolished those sexist pigs.
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qman said: He's just trying to impress you and get laid, don't buy into his fake feminist persona. 
I'm happily married with a wonderful life (and wife), so there goes that theory...
So why are you looking for a mistress? Of course I'm joking, I couldn't resist.
Edited by qman (08/31/16 04:28 PM)
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