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1 gramm of mushrooms
    #23596237 - 08/31/16 02:06 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Hi,

I have been trying to microdose for my depression.  I tried taking 0.5g of dried mushrooms and felt nothing so I tried taking 1g of fresh mushroom (the piece of mushroom that I tore off was about the size of my thumb nail) and still felt nothing. I was expecting to at least experience some change in perception.

Am I not weighing them properly?  Can somebody tell me how much a gramm of mushroom should look like, say in comparison to a finger?

Also, how much does one mushroom weigh roughly?  I've attached a photo of it.

Sorry, if I seem really ignorant but I am new to this.




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Re: 1 gramm of mushrooms [Re: denise1904]
    #23596290 - 08/31/16 02:51 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

You have to dry them before weighting, dosage is based on dry weight.

Fresh mushrooms are 90 - 95 percent water. So to get one dry gram you have to dehydrate 12g of fresh mushrooms (+/- 2g).

The very big mushroom shown in your picture weights roughly a gram when dried, probably less. The whole cake is a mild trip I would say.

//edit: Do you take any medication for your depression? SSRIs for example are known to diminish all psychedelic effects completely.

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Re: 1 gramm of mushrooms [Re: Pandemoon]
    #23596379 - 08/31/16 04:36 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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SSRIs for example are known to diminish all psychedelic effects completely.
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Would just like to point out that this doesn't correspond with my personal experience.


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Re: 1 gramm of mushrooms [Re: SageSilk]
    #23596405 - 08/31/16 05:03 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I can only relate to a few first-hand experiences and truly believe microdosing mushrooms while on SSRI doesn't bring up the expected results.

The most impressive was this girl sitting next to me who ate eight grams of potent cubes and didn't feel anything at all.
I'm interested in what you have to tell as each experience is worth mentioning, but it might get a little too off topic..

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Re: 1 gramm of mushrooms [Re: Pandemoon]
    #23596773 - 08/31/16 09:02 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yes, don't want to derail the thread, but I'm on an SSRI and as my first experiment ate a 12g fresh mushroom I'd grown myself and that was pretty trippy. Maybe it depends on the SSRI? Or on individual tolerances?


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Re: 1 gramm of mushrooms [Re: SageSilk] * 1
    #23596807 - 08/31/16 09:15 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: 1 gramm of mushrooms [Re: SageSilk]
    #23598273 - 08/31/16 05:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Yes, don't want to derail the thread, but I'm on an SSRI and as my first experiment ate a 12g fresh mushroom I'd grown myself and that was pretty trippy. Maybe it depends on the SSRI? Or on individual tolerances?




Just because you're on SSRIs doesn't mean you absolutely won't trip. It will just be diminished a great deal.


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Re: 1 gramm of mushrooms [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23598298 - 08/31/16 05:29 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Yes, don't want to derail the thread, but I'm on an SSRI and as my first experiment ate a 12g fresh mushroom I'd grown myself and that was pretty trippy. Maybe it depends on the SSRI? Or on individual tolerances?




Just because you're on SSRIs doesn't mean you absolutely won't trip. It will just be diminished a great deal.



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Re: 1 gramm of mushrooms [Re: Fractaliopsybe]
    #23603788 - 09/02/16 06:14 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Hi,

Thanks to all of you for your responses.  I guess then I will have to grow some more, dry them and then try say a larger amount.  How much would people recommend for a shift in perception rather than a massive trip?

I am on SSRIs but I have been told that they don't affect the same receptors as magic mushrooms.  However, Zyprexa (anti-psychotic and Trazodone (another type of antidepressant) do affect the same receptors so not advisable to take these.

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Re: 1 gramm of mushrooms [Re: denise1904]
    #23603802 - 09/02/16 06:23 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

2 grams but for what you want that gram plus up to a half gram more will give you what you want..personally i only take enough to have a humbling exp


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Re: 1 gramm of mushrooms [Re: denise1904]
    #23604142 - 09/02/16 09:53 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Thanks to all of you for your responses.  I guess then I will have to grow some more, dry them and then try say a larger amount.  How much would people recommend for a shift in perception rather than a massive trip?




Well it depends. Are you really trying to go for a shift in perception? Or do you want a shift in perspective


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Re: 1 gramm of mushrooms [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23604350 - 09/02/16 11:17 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Thanks to all of you for your responses.  I guess then I will have to grow some more, dry them and then try say a larger amount.  How much would people recommend for a shift in perception rather than a massive trip?




Well it depends. Are you really trying to go for a shift in perception? Or do you want a shift in perspective




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Heroic dose plus DMT :thumbup:
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Re: 1 gramm of mushrooms [Re: denise1904]
    #23604547 - 09/02/16 12:41 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

If you ate a gram of freshly picked mushrooms, then it was honestly around 0.2 or so dried.


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Re: 1 gramm of mushrooms [Re: Occazn]
    #24419857 - 06/20/17 08:31 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Hi,

Thanks again for all of your responses.  I am after a shift in perspective to answer one person's question.  All I want to know is roughly how many of the fresh mushrooms (Psilocybin Cubensis) of the size shown in the photo I posted in my first message  above, would I need to take to have a mild trip?

Can anybody answer that question?


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Re: 1 gramm of mushrooms [Re: denise1904]
    #24419932 - 06/20/17 09:02 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Your best bet is to invest in a scale man. Otherwise its really hard guess work to determine what you're taking. And then its hard to determine the effects of that dosage as well. (Say, hey I tripped relatively hard, but I don't know exactly how much I ate because I guesstimates :/)

I would say its worth it to know what dose you're taking and the effect it has on you personally.

Microdosing I never really go above .5. I usually do about .3. I definitely notice it.

If you ate a gram wet, that's only about .1g dry.

If we must guess, I would say eat about double or triple what's in that pic for a possibly good - strong trip ? But really I feel like there's no way to accurately dose and gauge the potential effect unless you can accurately weigh them.

Only way to find out is eat a bunch and see what happen :lol:


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Re: 1 gramm of mushrooms [Re: Enkidu]
    #24420019 - 06/20/17 09:36 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Okay,  you can NOT assume the level of trip you will get with certainty. Even if you DID weigh them. I've eaten .25g and tripped for 4hrs, and I've eaten 4G and barely trooped at all:shrug: That being said, you usually have an idea based on weight, not ever on size or photographs. Everyone experiences them differently. My wife trips way harder off the same amount as me. There are variables at hand in every situation. You should always be open to what the mushroom is bringing to you. Expectations and attempts to be in control will certainly be shattered.


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Re: 1 gramm of mushrooms [Re: denise1904]
    #24420685 - 06/20/17 02:12 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Basically like what everyone has been saying.  If you are microdosing fresh shrooms, multiply x10 the dose you planned on taking originally (so to get your "1 gramm" dose, eat 10 grams fresh.  That's probably half of the mushroom you're holding).

I suffer from depression as well and am on an SSRI.  Don't worry, you're prescription won't prevent you from getting effects from psilocybin, but you may need to take more than someone who isn't on an SSRI. 

Best advice is to grow enough to experiment with.  And don't neglect to take an actual trip at some point in your experimentation.  Tripping may not be for you, but I don't think you'll regret the experience.  Plus it might be easier to work your way DOWN to an effective microdose from a trip experience, than to work your way UP to an effective microdose from nothing.

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Re: 1 gramm of mushrooms [Re: unfortunategent]
    #24420725 - 06/20/17 02:30 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

4g and barely tripped ? :shrug:

A scale is a very good investment in order to accurately dose and effectively gauge the effect of the dose. In my experience, weight is the best indication of the expectable intensity of a trip. And the best way to determine what effect different sized doses have on you is to accurately measure what you take and see how it effects you. Then you can better judge what dose you will need to take in order to get your desired effect.


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Re: 1 gramm of mushrooms [Re: dhype773]
    #24420738 - 06/20/17 02:34 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

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Okay,  you can NOT assume the level of trip you will get with certainty. Even if you DID weigh them. I've eaten .25g and tripped for 4hrs, and I've eaten 4G and barely trooped at all:shrug:




You're supposed to base your expectations on average potency dude.


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Re: 1 gramm of mushrooms [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #24420893 - 06/20/17 03:30 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

More importantly what kind of mushrooms are people eating 0.25 grams and tripping for 4 hours? I feel like I am being left out of a strain that's amazing.


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Re: 1 gramm of mushrooms [Re: Steveinshell]
    #24421715 - 06/20/17 07:02 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Let me clarify.  I had NO EXPECTATION OF TRIPPING! I put 6g fresh shrooms in tea, as a potency test.  I thought just maybe I would feel a little something and know they were good. My wife talked me into splitting it with her, and we both tripped, visuals and all for like 4 hours. I said those numbers based on what I imagine they would have weighed dry. And I know fresh is different, but I did not think I would trip. So now I never assume.  It CAN vary unexpectedly.


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Re: 1 gramm of mushrooms [Re: dhype773]
    #24421824 - 06/20/17 07:31 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Also, I'm certain that somehow I screwed up the 4G (from that same batch) potency somehow during the drive to fl. I've got 1oz left from that batch. I talked to a friend that I gave an eighth to. She split it with her bf and she said they both tripped balls at a concert. I fucked them up somehow. I'll be giving it a retry this week hopefully.


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Re: 1 gramm of mushrooms [Re: dhype773]
    #24421976 - 06/20/17 08:22 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

I don't see that as a reason not to assume. How do you not assume? There will be an assumption that's why you're taking a particular dose if you're weighing it out because you want a certain kind of experience.

I've had 3.5 that barely did anything before but obviously I recognize that as abnormal and it certainly doesn't change my exceptions of what 3.5 grams should do.


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Re: 1 gramm of mushrooms [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #24422010 - 06/20/17 08:33 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

There is always that. But I just don't think it's ever a good idea to not be willing to actually trip when you eat mushrooms.  That's my point. Always know it's s possibility, and be willing. That's my advice


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Re: 1 gramm of mushrooms [Re: dhype773]
    #24422370 - 06/20/17 11:03 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Oh ya that is true. Even when taking a gram to test potency and such one should be ready for the most extreme result because it can happen and is not unheard of.

I've literally gone to hyperspace on just 0.9 dried


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Re: 1 gramm of mushrooms [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #24422666 - 06/21/17 01:47 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, that's all I'm saying.


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Re: 1 gramm of mushrooms [Re: Enkidu]
    #24425955 - 06/22/17 07:22 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Hi,

Thanks for your response but I did invest in weighing scales.  I weighed 0.5 gram of dried mushroom, took it and felt nothing went up to 1g and felt nothing.  The spore syringes I ordered though were cubensis.

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Re: 1 gramm of mushrooms [Re: Enkidu]
    #24425961 - 06/22/17 07:27 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Hi,

Thanks for your advice. I will try that next time.  I will eat 10g fresh.

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Re: 1 gramm of mushrooms [Re: denise1904]
    #24426312 - 06/22/17 10:24 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

1g and felt nothing?

That's strange to me but I seem to be very prone to the effects of mushrooms. 1g would definitely get me feeling something. I've accidentally taken too much microdosing and felt too strong of effects.

Could have to do with metabolism, etc. I would suggest you try moving up to about 2g dry or 20g wet. If you literally felt nothing off 1g then that may be suspect but idk if other people are affected similarly with feeling nothing at 1g.

Good luck.

Edit: I forgot you mentioned those S*** things. Maybe that is diminishing the effect for you?


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